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Title: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 21:59:42
I'd forgotten about this but now thanks to the wonders of the TEF I've just changed into odd socks and now I'm off to work to wave my ankles at people in an attention-seeking fashion :)

Glad your supporting this, assume this means you will refrain from using the term "window lickers"  along with some others on this forum from now on?


Title: Window Licking
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:04:59
Glad your supporting this, assume this means you will refrain from using the term "window lickers"  along with some others on this forum from now on?

He never has done to my knowledge


Title: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:14:27
He never has done to my knowledge

A quick search confirmed he has.


Title: Window Licking
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:15:49
A quick search confirmed he has.

Quote it then


Title: Window Licking
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:17:38
does it fucking matter?


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:19:11
does it fucking matter?

Yes it fucking does


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:22:35
http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=50322.msg1148560#msg1148560
http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=41917.msg901401#msg901401
http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=42957.msg932249#msg932249
http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=33463.msg675171#msg675171

there, argument settled


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: LucienSanchez on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:23:56
It's quite an amusing put down, to be fair...


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:24:27
Yes it fucking does

I'm on an iPad and can't work out how to - not interested in a witch hunt, just have a low tolerance of hypocracy. Lots of examples of people using the term. Lets agree no-one should and move on.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:24:40
i think it's a brilliantly understated insult and a great tune with a fucked up video


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:24:58
I'm on an iPad and can't work out how to - not interested in a witch hunt, just have a low tolerance of hypocracy. Lots of examples of people using the term. Lets agree no-one should and move on.
i disagree, let's not move on.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:25:21
i think it's a brilliantly understated insult and a great tune with a fucked up video

Touché


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:29:40
Touché

Ok then, I find it amusing that someone is so affronted by a fascist managing our club they won't attend games, will choose to use language that has been widely used to take the piss out of disabled children - he then wears odd socks to show his support for. But we're all hypocritical cunts to some degree or other.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:47:09
The only words that are off limits are racial slurs, everything else is ok in my book.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:49:26
The only words that are off limits are racial slurs, everything else is ok in my book.

Wow, you really are a fucking moron.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:54:07
Wow, you really are a fucking moron.
Paedophile.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: pauld on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:55:47
Ok then, I find it amusing that someone is so affronted by a fascist managing our club they won't attend games, will choose to use language that has been widely used to take the piss out of disabled children
Not the way I understood the phrase, I've only heard it as a general term for "thick bastard" tbh. If it does have it's origins in taking the piss out of the disabled then I wish I hadn't used it, but it certainly wasn't what I meant.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:58:23
Not the way I understood the phrase, I've only heard it as a general term for "thick bastard" tbh. If it does have it's origins in taking the piss out of the disabled then I wish I hadn't used it, but it certainly wasn't what I meant.

That's  fair enough then, and I was surprised and angered when I saw you use the term some time ago. I should have raised it then. Matter closed I think.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Thursday, March 21, 2013, 23:59:33
Paedophile.
Good spelling. Got anymore cunt chops?


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Friday, March 22, 2013, 00:00:57
It's the correct spelling..


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Friday, March 22, 2013, 00:03:17
It's the correct spelling..
Yeah, it was, well done,  have a gold star and fuck off to bed.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 22, 2013, 07:18:43
Who let this fucking window licker in then?


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: blinkpip on Friday, March 22, 2013, 08:10:05
What an thisis ''i'm telling mum'' stitched up thread. Move on Red socks, stopped trolling.

embarrassing.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Berniman on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:16:15
Not the way I understood the phrase, I've only heard it as a general term for "thick bastard" tbh. If it does have it's origins in taking the piss out of the disabled then I wish I hadn't used it, but it certainly wasn't what I meant.


I'm with you Paul, I have never linked Window lickers with the disabled and the fact that Red Socks has taken offence to it says more about him more than anything else.  For me Windows Lickers equated to unique people who need to get out more like the stereotypical train spotter wearing his kagool.  In fact I don't see how you have managed to equate Window Lickers to the disabled.

Just my opinion of course.  Maybe it's a generation thing.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:24:31
Do people really not think that the term window licker is a derogatary term for a disabled person?

For me, window licker is less insulting than 'spastic', but still pretty horrible.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:27:16
I always though it was for somebody that's a bit thick, like red socks.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: BruceChatwin on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:27:47
Bit of digging suggests it's the third most offensive term for a disabled person.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/aug/27/george-galloway-criticised-window-licker-tweet (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/aug/27/george-galloway-criticised-window-licker-tweet)

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In 2003, the term was voted third most offensive that could be used relating to disability in a poll run for the BBC's Ouch! disability talk show.

But the bigger reason not to use it is George Galloway thinks it's funny.



Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:30:49
I always though it was for somebody that's a bit thick, like red socks.

:)

Personally I think its offensive, but i wouldn't have gone into such a big song and dance about it.



Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Berniman on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:33:31
Nope, maybe I am naive on this one.  Mind you I don't use the term, wouldn't contemplate making a joke out of a disabled person or hang out with people that would so perhaps understandable.

Like I said maybe it's a generation thing.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:35:04
Nope, maybe I am naive on this one.  Mind you I don't use the term, wouldn't contemplate making a joke out of a disabled person or hang out with people that would so perhaps understandable.

Like I said maybe it's a generation thing.

In other words, you are an old bastard! ;)


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Berniman on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:36:12
I agree that there are much better ways of raising the issue though rather than naming a thread as the offensive term that you think innapropriate.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Berniman on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:37:02
In other words, you are an old bastard! ;)

Not as old as some on here! :) I prefer wise! ;-) Though Si will take great joy it proving that this is not always necessarily the case.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:38:30
you're all joeys


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Berniman on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:46:04
you're all joeys

The fact that I understand what that means does prove that maybe I am old!


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: inept and tiresome on Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:46:45
The first time I heard this, it was directed towards a bus full of handicapped kids. I think it's the worst kind of insult and that's comeing from someone who takes a fair few insults in a day and dishes a fair few out.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Amir on Friday, March 22, 2013, 11:16:14
you're all joeys

Baby kangaroo yourself.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Friday, March 22, 2013, 11:30:15
I agree that there are much better ways of raising the issue though rather than naming a thread as the offensive term that you think innapropriate.

I didn't name the thread, it was cut and paste from the one about Down syndrome day, which lots of people here said they support, yet call people mongs and window lickers.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, March 22, 2013, 11:37:40
if you start pointing out the hypocrisy of people on the internet, you'll find yourself very busy


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Chubbs on Friday, March 22, 2013, 11:42:13
this as amused me today


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Friday, March 22, 2013, 11:43:57
this as amused me today

Does someone want to call me a spastic then we can close the thread. Bored now.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, March 22, 2013, 11:57:48
Surely if you are truly non-prejudiced and you enjoy ripping the piss out of your mates, then not ripping the piss out of the disabled is being prejudiced.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Arriba on Friday, March 22, 2013, 12:36:27
The same phrases or words being said or typed can mean different things despite being identical. The problem with the internet that often the true meaning of what someone types gets blown out of proportion.
You're all a bunch of stupid cunts though :smugfu:


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, March 22, 2013, 13:59:23
The TEF will die a little when boundaries are drawn with regard to what insults are acceptable


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red socks on Friday, March 22, 2013, 14:04:51
The TEF will die a little when boundaries are drawn with regard to what insults are acceptable

If people are banding around words that originated as a term of a abuse for children with Down's syndrome without realizing it, and now they do will stop using it, fine by me.

The fact that people want to attack me for raising the issue says everything to me about the narrow minded fucking twats I have to share the planet with. Fuck you all you cunts.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, March 22, 2013, 14:07:31
as far as I'm concerned if anyone is offended by anything they read on here then it is their problem.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 22, 2013, 14:08:42
If people are banding around words that originated as a term of a abuse for children with Down's syndrome without realizing it, and now they do will stop using it, fine by me.

The fact that people want to attack me for raising the issue says everything to me about the narrow minded fucking twats I have to share the planet with. Fuck you all you cunts.

Give it a rest you spaz


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, March 22, 2013, 14:10:16
Fuck you all you cock juggling thundercunts


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: GoSWINDON on Friday, March 22, 2013, 14:28:13
I  woke up to find someone had wrote 'mong' on my window , it took the wife ages to lick it off


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Berniman on Friday, March 22, 2013, 14:35:26
If people are banding around words that originated as a term of a abuse for children with Down's syndrome without realizing it, and now they do will stop using it, fine by me.

The fact that people want to attack me for raising the issue says everything to me about the narrow minded fucking twats I have to share the planet with. Fuck you all you cunts.

Blimey.  I don't think anyone attacked you, just debated how people understood the term.  I don't think the TEF is a good place for you to hang out.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: ron dodgers on Friday, March 22, 2013, 14:37:36
has the spazmaloid gone?


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, March 22, 2013, 14:48:00
Well, you should be more careful you... jizz cock!

You could have had my legs off, you... piss kidney!


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: 4D on Friday, March 22, 2013, 14:53:53
and this is from red socks, who used to sport an avatar of a guy with an abusive message on his t-shirt   ::)


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 22, 2013, 15:09:01
and this is from red socks, who used to sport an avatar of a guy with an abusive message on his t-shirt   ::)

One taking the piss out of people with tourette's as well. And to think he's blathering on about hypocrisy.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: 4D on Friday, March 22, 2013, 15:10:32
That's the one!


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, March 22, 2013, 15:11:45
Does someone want to call me a spastic then we can close the thread. Bored now.

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Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, March 22, 2013, 15:38:37
Well, you should be more careful you... jizz cock!

You could have had my legs off, you... piss kidney!

Not actually an insult, all cocks are jizz cocks really. Be like calling him a piss kidney.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: dagrumpymunki on Friday, March 22, 2013, 15:50:55
Ok then, I find it amusing that someone is so affronted by a fascist managing our club they won't attend games, will choose to use language that has been widely used to take the piss out of disabled children - he then wears odd socks to show his support for. But we're all hypocritical cunts to some degree or other.

I've never heard this phrase used to "take the piss out of disabled children". Similarly I've never heard the word mong used in this way.

This is because I've never actually heard anyone, other than other children that know no better, "take the piss out of disabled children". Grown-ups don't tend to do that sort of thing. They tend to just look the other way when they encounter the learning disabled, or over compensate and be incredibly patronising.

Presumably what you find offensive is people using phrases that imply that others have learning disabilities, when they presumably don't. Which poses the question of where you stop. Is moron acceptable? What about idiot or imbecile? All were words for those with mental handicaps / learning disabilities, but have been absorbed into the language as insults to be directed at people behaving stupidly. What about retard? Or is that still too recent?

Do you feel the same way about the use of language relating to mental illness? Are you going to get similarly outraged every time someone calls someone else a nutter, a loon, etc. ?

Could you post a list of acceptable insults and the contexts that are appropriate for their use for us all? Better be careful to research the etymology of them all though, because someone is bound to pull you up on anything dodgy.

And I'd be bloody careful with every post you make in the next couple of weeks as people will be waiting for you to slip up so that they can pounce and scream hypocrite at you.





Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Amir on Friday, March 22, 2013, 16:07:24
I've never heard this phrase used to "take the piss out of disabled children". Similarly I've never heard the word mong used in this way.

This is because I've never actually heard anyone, other than other children that know no better, "take the piss out of disabled children". Grown-ups don't tend to do that sort of thing. They tend to just look the other way when they encounter the learning disabled, or over compensate and be incredibly patronising.

Presumably what you find offensive is people using phrases that imply that others have learning disabilities, when they presumably don't. Which poses the question of where you stop. Is moron acceptable? What about idiot or imbecile? All were words for those with mental handicaps / learning disabilities, but have been absorbed into the language as insults to be directed at people behaving stupidly. What about retard? Or is that still too recent?

Do you feel the same way about the use of language relating to mental illness? Are you going to get similarly outraged every time someone calls someone else a nutter, a loon, etc. ?

Could you post a list of acceptable insults and the contexts that are appropriate for their use for us all? Better be careful to research the etymology of them all though, because someone is bound to pull you up on anything dodgy.

Exactly what I would have said if I could be bothered and could express myself as well as you do. 

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And I'd be bloody careful with every post you make in the next couple of weeks as people will be waiting for you to slip up so that they can pounce and scream hypocrite at you.

He's already been slain for a previous avatar.  Welcome to the jungle.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Benzel on Friday, March 22, 2013, 20:28:00
i think it's a brilliantly understated insult and a great tune with a fucked up video

Agreed on all points.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: leefer on Friday, March 22, 2013, 21:03:32
if you start pointing out the hypocrisy of people on the internet, you'll find yourself very busy

Ban coming. ;)


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: nochee on Friday, March 22, 2013, 21:46:25
I like parking in handicapped spaces watching handicapped people make handicapped faces. Dennis Leary, years ago.

These kind of threads dont come around very often, I love it when they do.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: janaage on Friday, March 22, 2013, 21:49:20
Is it not 'sometimes I park in handicapped places, while handicapped people make handicapped faces'



Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: nochee on Friday, March 22, 2013, 21:51:20
Is it not 'sometimes I park in handicapped places, while handicapped people make handicapped faces'


Maybe, probably. I don't remember exactly to be honest


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red sheldon on Friday, March 22, 2013, 21:55:54
you're all joeys

after reading five pages of impassioned debate about such an emotive and important subject, here's my input.

How old are you Sonic, I thought you would be too young for Joey Deacon...


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, March 22, 2013, 21:56:56
27. I think I learnt about Joey Deacon from mexico red when he groomed me.


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: red sheldon on Friday, March 22, 2013, 22:03:20
27. I think I learnt about Joey Deacon from mexico red when he groomed me.
Now that is some heavy duty role playing games


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: Berniman on Friday, March 22, 2013, 23:07:56
27. I think I learnt about Joey Deacon from mexico red when he groomed me.

 >:D


Title: Re: Window Licking
Post by: leefer on Saturday, March 23, 2013, 11:44:29
Cringeworthy thread....especially for any handicapped people who happen to read it.

I know one who does and he will probably have a chuckle but i suspect anyone else reading may think that they have stumbled on a bad page on the THISIS site.

All to there own i suppose.