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Anyone know anything about the Protestant Reformation? And specifically within Hungary and the Austrian Hereditary Lands? You can probably guess why I'm asking..

Not me.  Sorry.

Late Night Thesis?

leaving your work to the last minute against CoFo?

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2k essay due tomorrow, had 3 weeks to do it. Same old story.  :D

I've been on Wikipedia already, too general.

Do you attend lectures CF? :)

For this module I've been to 6/10 so far. I have to add that I didn't choose to do this module, my original choice was cancelled because not enough people wanted to do it, and this is one of the few things they had left. The history of religion isn't my strong point, I did RE until year 8..

The question is

Compare and contrast the progress of the Reformation in Hungary and the Austrian Hereditary Lands.

Sorry....I fear I have come to this too late....could probably have helped a bit....if there is still time in the morning, let me know.

I'm still here.  :bye:

I've just got in.

Can't help with your degree though, sorry.

My kebab is lovely though.

Still preparing it! Read shit loads of stuff, most of it irrelevant.

If you are now asleep, good for you!!  If you are still struggling, then my suggestion (and I hope its not completely opposite to what you have already written) is that this all focusses on the history of the Habsburg dynasty over the fifteenth, sixteenth and early seventeenth centuries.  In the Austrian territories, despite there being many different cultures and 'national' groupings and languages, they found a way of handling the different political/religious groupings, including suppression of Protestantism, relatively moderately, until Fredinand II, who went the whole hog and reintroduced a florid (later Baroque) Catholicism.  Whilst the Bohemian kingdoms in Hungary were influenced in this way, further east there was a stronger history of Protestantism, probably influenced by the early Czech reformer, John Huss, who had been martyred in 1415, whose death provoked violent response in the region (including Bohemia) against the power and wealth of the Church.  So protestantism had a longer and more radical history and was more deeply rooted in Hungary....

Don't know it that ties up with your own reading....

You are fantastic, thanks! I've compared and contrasted the foothold Lutheranism and Calvinism had in the Austrian Hereditary Lands and in Hungary, some stuff on distribution of each, examined the influence of the invading Ottomans on the whole situation, and talked about the counter-reformation and what attempts the Catholics made to get back on top.

Bit of a cheeky link to humanism/renaissance too. Quite happy with it considering I knew nothing about it 11 hours ago.

Hope it produces reasonable results!!!

I've got another one to do tonight for tomorrow..

Not the same subject surely :suicide:

Nah was on Serbian/Croatian literature.

The story of John Huss is a pretty interesting one - supposedly, he prophecied about the impact of Luther just before his execution, a good 100 years before the reformation kicked off.

I don't even have to say it, you all know.

What's everyone else up to?

watching X Files and playing FM.

I find myself in the awkward position of doing an essay for someone who is an expert on the topic in question. One of the suggested reading links is an essay by him, do I dare to quote his own work in my essay? 

quote him and disagree with him :)

 :D

He's a very clever guy, he's put it on the suggested reading links to trip people up. I'm sure of it.

i know i'd do the same in his position.

I'd use it,

He'll probably get off on the fact someone has read his work and quoted it.

In all seriousness, it depends what they're like. I disagreed with a journal article by one of my lecturers, and although I obviously never changed their opinion, i got a first for the way in which i used decent evidence to back up my assertions whilst criticising their own. They were far too pro-American re. the Cuban Missile Crisis for my liking!

I've written some bollocks in my time but this paragraph takes the biscuit.

We have yet to talk about the usage of solar/lunar symbolism within Smail-aga Čengić’s Death. The Turks are frequently mentioned along with the stars, night and the Moon, (the stars and crescent Moon being representative of Islam), whereas the Montenegrins tend to be associated with the Sun. The Sun and Moon are two perennial adversaries so it seems fitting to juxtapose them with the Montenegrins and Croats. At the start of Act 2 it is said that, ‘The Sun sets, and the Moon rises.’ This is in reference to the Montenegrins losing their lives in Act 1 (‘and easily they parted with the Sun’) and the Turks still being on top at this point. The killing of Durak however is Čengić’s hamartia and it only spirals downhill from there for the Turks. On page 10 it is said, ‘The last star went from sight; it was the star of aga Čengić,’ although this signals the end for Čengić, the Moon is still visible, indicating that Islam is set to stay in the Balkans for some time. In Act 3, ‘the day begins to redden’ as the shepherd/priest calls his flock. As he travels down to the Montenegrin men, ‘the Sun from the West accompanies him.’ The following of the sunlight is a conformation of the validity and suitability of the task they are partaking in, and is once more Mother Nature’s blessing or perhaps even God’s way of giving his approval. In Act 4, it is mentioned prior to the attack on the Turkish camp that a ‘half-Moon shimmers in mid-Heaven,’ a sure indicator of where the Turks would shortly find themselves. A final example of solar/lunar symbolism is displayed in Act 5. The puppet Čengić’s clothes are described as being unable to ‘deflect the sun’, a metaphor for not being able to ward off the Montenegrin attackers in the camp ambush. 

Baroque is the key word here. I have an essay on the following:

How did the iconography and symbolism of the Baroque contribute to Habsburg power in Central Europe?

I was wondering whether anyone had a few snippets of information for me, particularly RWB Robin. (Yes I did search for the word baroque to see if it had come up on the forum, unsurprisingly it didn't feature heavily on here.)

And yes I know it's not late night.

The flowering of the Baroque, in Italy then into Spain, was counter-Reformation propaganda. It eventually reached England, via the Low Countries, due to Charles 1 love of the visual arts.  His execution and the establishment of the Commonwealth, strangled its development.

Fuck nose what it did for Central Europe, but I suppose it was meant to have the same effect as in Spain and Netherlands...if you want nice things to look at and elaborate rituals in your religion, then vote Catholic....if you want dull stuff then vote Protestant

Ta.