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Title: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: News Monkey on Monday, December 17, 2012, 07:00:10
Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
           
           



  THE “hostile environment” that exists at Swindon Town is not at boardroom level but in other areas of the club, according to manager Paolo Di Canio.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10111552.Paolo_s_thinly_veiled_swipe_at_mentality_of_youth_system/?ref=rss
           
           
           


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: wiggy on Monday, December 17, 2012, 08:02:44
Hardly thinly veiled!

He just might be right though.


Title: Re: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: tans on Monday, December 17, 2012, 08:31:47
Good rant haha


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 17, 2012, 08:41:49
Its not exactly well hidden that there is not much love between Bodin and Paolo.

But is there a need to air this in public? Paolo thinks there is and he is not backward in saying what he thinks!


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: kerry red on Monday, December 17, 2012, 09:37:34
PdC's job is on the line if the first team fails to peform.

If he feels a subordinate employee is not doing his job properly and therefore may well affect his ability to get the first team to perform I reckon he's well within his rights to try and sort it out.

Just because PB is a long standing, well-liked former player shouldn't protect him from criticism.

I can imagine our club backsliding into its usual non-entity status if/when PdC leaves if the foundations haven't been laid for the incoming manager to build on.

He's not being an arse for the hell of it - he genuinely does what does and says what he says for the good of the club.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: sheepshagger on Monday, December 17, 2012, 09:50:37
Sounds to me that PDC thinks Bodin is sniping behind his back internally at the club, and not doing his job as well as PDC thinks he should...


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Nemo on Monday, December 17, 2012, 09:57:19
We might well have players who were "ready" coming through at 18 if the big clubs didn't poach them before they reached that age. Stevens and Henshall come to mind from recent years, unfortunately this is pretty much the reality of football at the moment.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:17:02
Re hashed interview from last week.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: mrverve on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:24:53
Re hashed interview from last week.

This was said to BBC wilts in the post match interview after the Oldham game on Saturday I think.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:27:47
Re hashed interview from last week.

Indeed and the Advertiser seems to be doing this a lot (either that or Paolo keeps making the same statement regarding Wray in various interviews!)

But its pennies from heaven for the Advertiser they know that there is an issue and thus I imagine youth and Bodin is a fertile line of questioning everytime they speak to him!

Not saying that it should be aired in public when it definitely shouldn't but I am also getting a little bored of the Advertiser stirrring the shit constantly.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:29:05
There would be no shit to stir if PDC didn't keep feeding it to them. They're just doing there job.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Paolo69 on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:31:03
And off we go again. This thread has all the making of the one last week, and the week before....


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:42:46
Re hashed interview from last week.
No it's not. It's a report of his post-match comments. Might help if you read the article before shooting the messenger

Indeed and the Advertiser seems to be doing this a lot (either that or Paolo keeps making the same statement regarding Wray in various interviews!)

But its pennies from heaven for the Advertiser they know that there is an issue and thus I imagine youth and Bodin is a fertile line of questioning everytime they speak to him!

Not saying that it should be aired in public when it definitely shouldn't but I am also getting a little bored of the Advertiser stirrring the shit constantly.
The questions were being asked by Sean Hodgetts, BBC Wilts, the Adver are just reporting what was said. If you're getting bored of it, fine, don't read it, but it's Di Canio who's shit-stirring, not the BBC and not the Adver. They're just reporting what the manager says, not their fault he keeps banging the same drum


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:48:00
No it's not. It's a report of his post-match comments. Might help if you read the article before shooting the messenger
The questions were being asked by Sean Hodgetts, BBC Wilts, the Adver are just reporting what was said. If you're getting bored of it, fine, don't read it, but it's Di Canio who's shit-stirring, not the BBC and not the Adver. They're just reporting what the manager says, not their fault he keeps banging the same drum

Agreed which is why I rarely bother reading his missives anymore (that and the fact it gives me a migrane trying to understand and follow what he is trying to say).


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:49:43
Agreed which is why I rarely bother reading his missives anymore (that and the fact it gives me a migrane trying to understand and follow what he is trying to say).
:) Fair enough. Seems a bit harsh to accuse the Adver of shit-stirring then?


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Nemo on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:50:06
In fairness, we complain when we get stories like "McEveley hoping for a win against <Saturday's opponent name> or "Navarro doesn't mind playing against former club <Wednesday's opponent's name> too. Not much the Adver can do really, it's not like there's much other sport in the town to concetrate on, our next two most successful sports teams compete in Speedway and Ice Hockey, which are hardly going to send the papers flying off shelves.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:53:50
Not much the Adver can do really, it's not like there's much other sport in the town to concetrate on, our next two most successful sports teams compete in Speedway and Ice Hockey, which are hardly going to send the papers flying off shelves.
Fanboat racing, that'd send the papers flying off the shelves!
[url width=800 height=497]http://www.fanboatmiami.com/fan-boat-airboat-everglades.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 17, 2012, 12:59:25
:) Fair enough. Seems a bit harsh to accuse the Adver of shit-stirring then?

Why they have been doing it for years anyway, I suspect this may also be to do with the fact that he seems happier to speak to the BBC rather than then!


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 17, 2012, 13:00:08
Fanboat racing, that'd send the papers flying off the shelves!
[url width=800 height=497]http://www.fanboatmiami.com/fan-boat-airboat-everglades.jpg[/url]

I cannot be the only one that thinks initially of Gentle Ben when he sees that picture!


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 17, 2012, 13:03:43
Why they have been doing it for years anyway, I suspect this may also be to do with the fact that he seems happier to speak to the BBC rather than then!
Well, Shaun Hodgetts is the "shit-stirrer" (aka reporter asking reasonable straightforward question answered by 20 minute rant) this time so maybe that will change :)


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, December 17, 2012, 13:07:03
No, he asks a question, Paolo says something. He then makes a point of repeating what Paolo has said, followed by why?


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 17, 2012, 13:37:53
Well, Shaun Hodgetts is the "shit-stirrer" (aka reporter asking reasonable straightforward question answered by 20 minute rant) this time so maybe that will change :)

I dunno why I am actually arguing this as I genuinely don't care! Must find something better to do in a wet lunchtime in Manchester!

Anyway if Bodins got any sense he is preparing his constructive dismissal case as we speak and will then jump ship to Torquay,


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: dave_bambers_right_sock on Monday, December 17, 2012, 13:46:43
Fanboat racing, that'd send the papers flying off the shelves!
[url width=800 height=497]http://www.fanboatmiami.com/fan-boat-airboat-everglades.jpg[/url]

Can we please do this at Coate Water


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Paolo69 on Monday, December 17, 2012, 13:49:25
Ben! Ben!


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: leefer on Monday, December 17, 2012, 18:51:40
I wonder what the scenario would be if Bodin was airing his views in public though.
Bodin had done a decent job in my opinion and a long time before Paolo arrived.
On top of that he was a great player for the club and deserves better treatment than people just guessing that he is stirring.

He dosn't...its called being profesional....something that Paolo is at pains to stress to his players to do more thoroughly.



Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 17, 2012, 18:55:20
If Paolo is as good and clever as he says he is, then he doesn't mind his shit being stirred in public. He knows how media works, he's not the victim of the Adver and the BBC.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: tans on Monday, December 17, 2012, 19:37:49
I thought byrne had carried out the groundwork with the youths and bodin just carried it on when he left?


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: leefer on Monday, December 17, 2012, 19:56:27
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bodin

Byrne did a great job,but lets not forget  that Bodin worked here in troubled times for over 3 years and  didn't even have a contract...as well as caretaker manager for a while and then turning down the No 2 job at Torquay with Ling to stay here.

Now i can understand if Paolo wants rid of Bodin....my issue is that it is done in the right manner with no mud slinging.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: RedRag on Monday, December 17, 2012, 21:01:50
This hasn't appeared in this week's Paolo rant thread yet:

Remember, Mousehead writes the article but not the headline

Truly a Groundhog Day


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: joteddyred on Monday, December 17, 2012, 21:08:10

Now i can understand if Paolo wants rid of Bodin....my issue is that it is done in the right manner with no mud slinging.

Totally agree. The club really need to be careful.  As somebody mentioned, if Bodin took exception to this, they could be on sticky ground.

Quite honestly I'm sick of crap like this being aired in public.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Monday, December 17, 2012, 21:34:46
The only thing that irritates me about articles likes this is that the tiresome phrase "airing your dirty linen in public" is coined over and over and over again...  ::)


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Benzel on Monday, December 17, 2012, 21:37:20
I think it's good that Paolo wants us to know that he wants to improve this club and that he feels there are areas that are not up to his high standards of professionalism.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 17, 2012, 21:39:07
The only thing that irritates me about articles likes this is that the tiresome phrase "airing your dirty linen in public" is coined over and over and over again...  ::)

But the board won't stand for it much longer, you know.  ;)


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 17, 2012, 23:22:05
The only thing that irritates me about articles likes this is that the tiresome phrase "airing your dirty linen in public" is coined over and over and over again...  ::)
1) You can only coin a phrase once. Coining a phrase means to invent it. After that you're repeating it
2) Except in this thread, where it hadn't been used at all, until you introduced it to complain it was being "coined" over and over and over again. Which slightly undermines your point

But apart from that, great post :)


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: paddieu on Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 00:30:13
I dont remember reading any PDC invective aimed at youth team/staff until Mr M'Bargo came along...
Or is that just my fading memory ?


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 07:21:35
I dont remember reading any PDC invective aimed at youth team/staff until Mr M'Bargo came along...
Or is that just my fading memory ?

Its your fading memory. He had a pop during pubgate last year, possibly before.


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 18:25:51
1) You can only coin a phrase once. Coining a phrase means to invent it. After that you're repeating it
2) Except in this thread, where it hadn't been used at all, until you introduced it to complain it was being "coined" over and over and over again. Which slightly undermines your point

But apart from that, great post :)

Pedantic bar-steward!


Title: Re: Adver News: Paolo's thinly-veiled swipe at mentality of youth system
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 19, 2012, 09:32:33
Pedantic bar-steward!
Ha ha sorry, couldn't resist.