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Title: tomorrows adver
Post by: tans on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 19:41:59
Oh joy, whats set him off this time


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 19:44:10
We all know what the adver is like and how it interprets things.

Would be rather a dull Paul Hart interview?!


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 19:44:10
So a normal story then.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 19:46:06
I'm glad I have other things to do tomorrow.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 19:46:16
Well, it's been a while since his last rant, but this one sounds a little extreme.

Getting quite bored of the schoolgirl antics now.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 19:53:53
No problem with any of that. The darkness comment is disrespectful to other managers and the other people that work at the club, but its just Di Canio arrogance....do we expect anything less?


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:12:18
What's the odds the headlines have little relevance to what was said? (And yes, I do know that Morshead doesn't write the headlines)


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:15:31
Hmm, but IF they are accurate then there is only so many "hostile environment" swipes you can take before something breaks.....


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:29:12
Hmm, but IF they are accurate then there is only so many "hostile environment" swipes you can take before something breaks.....

My only concern is whether or not we would get in another manager as good/better.

It's probably just a hurricane in a toilet anyway. (Struggling for an alternative analogy to storm in a teacup)


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:33:50
My only concern is whether or not we would get in another manager as good/better.

* Edit. It's probably in hurricane in a toilet anyway.

Oh I agree. He's mad, but he's getting results. I don't want him out. My worry is Patey will lose patience, which could be a disaster and trigger a fan backlash.

Yeah, lots of if, buts and suppositions there.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:42:11
My only concern is whether or not we would get in another manager as good/better.

It's probably just a hurricane in a toilet anyway. (Struggling for an alternative analogy to storm in a teacup)
tornado in a bucket


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:49:49
Good one


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:51:01
I think I prefer this than having a yes man managing the club, which would likely be the replacement the board would seek should Paolo bugger off.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:52:39
A belch in a tempest. (I'm a little proud of that one)


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:54:43
My only concern is whether I can get a copy of it to laminate


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:58:11
Oh I agree. He's mad, but he's getting results. I don't want him out. My worry is Patey will lose patience, which could be a disaster and trigger a fan backlash.

Yeah, lots of if, buts and suppositions there.

Speaking of which, have we heard anything from Patey recently?


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 20:59:42
Speaking of which, have we heard anything from Patey recently?

Nope, but doesn't he only work a few days a month?


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 21:04:34
Nope, but doesn't he only work a few days a month?

Seems to be the big difference with Patey and Wray, Jezza would often address us through the media, Patey has little/nothing to say it seems. The Adver is likely to fish for reaction to Di Canio's latest comments from Patey in the next couple of days.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: joteddyred on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 21:24:20
I just fail to see the purpose of an interview like this.  It's the sort of thing you would expect to see when a manager has left a club under a cloud, not when they're still in charge.  Utterly pointless and causes unnecessary ructions.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: nochee on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 21:33:39
"I HAD THE CHANCE TO LEAVE THIS CLUB"

"But I quite like Swindon as a town and the top bosses are lovely and all the fans are little cherubs"

Maybe?




Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 21:54:24
"Noticed a few comments asking about chairman's views on PDC's recent comments. I have not been able to reach him for the past week. #stfc"


It's like Sam Morshead might have been reading this!


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 22:16:56
Di Canio is Italian. Italians are generally outspoken and don't hold back...



Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 22:18:41
I will read it properly tomorrow. Only then will I make my mind up.

I see the adver have already been on twitter defending their position even before the story has been published.

Sounds ominous to me


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Coca Fola on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 22:19:54
Di Canio is Italian. Italians are generally outspoken and don't hold back...
This, nothing to worry about.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 22:24:15
I will read it properly tomorrow. Only then will I make my mind up.

I see the adver have already been on twitter defending their position even before the story has been published.

Sounds ominous to me

It wasn't us 'onest guv...


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 22:27:22
It wasn't us 'onest guv...

Exactly


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Coca Fola on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 22:31:08
I don't like the adver, they always push him into saying controversial things. Obviously to sell more papers, but it is detriment to the club.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: donkey on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 23:24:42
Can someone get Toni a copy?


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: yeo on Thursday, December 13, 2012, 23:43:30
He's a twat and Id sack him


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 14, 2012, 09:05:31
I just fail to see the purpose of an interview like this.  It's the sort of thing you would expect to see when a manager has left a club under a cloud, not when they're still in charge.  Utterly pointless and causes unnecessary ructions.
Exactly.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: pauld on Friday, December 14, 2012, 09:09:18
I don't like the adver, they always push him into saying controversial things. Obviously to sell more papers, but it is detriment to the club.
Absolute bollocks. Di Canio doesn't need any pushing, have you never listened to his post-match rants?


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: tj2002 on Friday, December 14, 2012, 10:42:39
I'd be interested to see what our results have been like after each of these bigger Paolo rants. I suspect they are probably pretty good. I also think most of the players are on his side, particularly the older pros like Miller, Ward and Navarro and the youngsters like Flint etc will be learning every day under Paolo. Whilst he's always been a nutter he's clearly and intelligent man, more so than I think a lot of us give him credit for, and lets not forget he was one hell of a player.

Big win tomorrow and this will all be forgotten but the adver should watch their step, they're clearly using Paolo's limelight to try and make a name for themselves and I don't like it.



Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Sippo on Friday, December 14, 2012, 10:47:29
Absolute bollocks. Di Canio doesn't need any pushing, have you never listened to his post-match rants?

But the adver love it. They hang off his rants.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, December 14, 2012, 10:58:40
Absolute bollocks. Di Canio doesn't need any pushing, have you never listened to his post-match rants?

Spot on Paul.  The amount of people who think the adver or Sam Morshead or Chris Wise goad paolo into these quotes is laughable.  He doesn't need any encouragement to stick his size 10's right royally in it. 

Paolo can spout on about professionalism all he want but maybe if he acted with more of it wed be better off.

I think there's a large part of paolo surprised no pl or champ club has made an approach for him yet.  Not read the article but he talk about this chance he had to move on 2 months ago. Well if he did I think he'd be out of a job a while.  No other league 1 or 2 club could afford him and he hasn't done enough to attract most higher league clubs.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: pauld on Friday, December 14, 2012, 11:10:45
But the adver love it. They hang off his rants.
So what should they do? Not report it? Then he'd be ranting that he was being censored as would most on here. He kicks off in press conferences because he wants the attention, that's not the paper's fault is it?


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Sippo on Friday, December 14, 2012, 11:23:41
The adver always seem to have a negative aspect on things. I'm sure the article isn't word for word what paolo said.

There seems to be negativity everywhere at the moment, when in fact we aren't really doing that badly.



Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, December 14, 2012, 11:31:04
Spot on Paul.  The amount of people who think the adver or Sam Morshead or Chris Wise goad paolo into these quotes is laughable.  He doesn't need any encouragement to stick his size 10's right royally in it. 

Paolo can spout on about professionalism all he want but maybe if he acted with more of it wed be better off.

I think there's a large part of paolo surprised no pl or champ club has made an approach for him yet.  Not read the article but he talk about this chance he had to move on 2 months ago. Well if he did I think he'd be out of a job a while.  No other league 1 or 2 club could afford him and he hasn't done enough to attract most higher league clubs.
Every time he opens his gob he furthjer reduces his chances of going to a higher club.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, December 14, 2012, 11:34:16
Perhaps being away from Swindon and STFC games for a while has distanced me from the emotion a little... I found the rant hilarious.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: RobertT on Friday, December 14, 2012, 11:59:06
Spot on Paul.  The amount of people who think the adver or Sam Morshead or Chris Wise goad paolo into these quotes is laughable.  He doesn't need any encouragement to stick his size 10's right royally in it. 

Paolo can spout on about professionalism all he want but maybe if he acted with more of it wed be better off.

I think there's a large part of paolo surprised no pl or champ club has made an approach for him yet.  Not read the article but he talk about this chance he had to move on 2 months ago. Well if he did I think he'd be out of a job a while.  No other league 1 or 2 club could afford him and he hasn't done enough to attract most higher league clubs.

By professionalism, he isn't talking about how they talk to people or get on like best buds on and off the pitch, he's talking about a dedication to training and implemetning the tactis they have been told to use etc.  About committing their entire enegry to the cause of the football club - in some cases that means actually making personal sacrifices that would seem unreasonable to the general public -things we'd pretty nuts about if our employer dared to question us on. You know, like carrying on with work even though we are entitled to paternity leave. (as it happens, he's quite mild compared to some others like Trevor Francis back in the day fining a player who went to the birth of his child rather than be available for selection for a game as I remember it - another example of how someone who was pretty good at the game knowing what was needed to make that happen, although that may have been a little OTT).

His point is that if we accept footballers treating it like a job, or like a league one team, that's what we will get.  Despite doing many things that others would say is poor leadership, like criticising in public, he has done one very good example which is his own behaviours.  He has shown what he expects from others by his own actions following the death of his parents - total and utter commitement to the cause, unrelenting.

What we'll get is what I mentioned in the other thread, players coming and going as the vast majority will not sustain it and that's why he mentiones Barcelona.  The current team performance is founded on a culture in the club of total dedication to the cause and that is also whay they get so many talents coming through (on top of the clear bonus of being a massive name).  It's also why Ferguson may have done so well, because he is not a coach of any great stature but he developed a culture and when anyone starts wavering, he gets rid.  He also has spats with the media because they dare to criticise some of his actions, performances etc.

Oh, and I'm not sure how much better off you specifcally say as fact we will have been without him, there aren't many more places higher we could be with anyone else so that's a pretty big claim.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, December 14, 2012, 12:25:22
Comparing Pdc to saf is like comparing a Ferrari rocher to a chomp bar.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Benzel on Friday, December 14, 2012, 12:59:07
Brilliant.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: sheepshagger on Friday, December 14, 2012, 13:13:11
So what should they do? Not report it? Then he'd be ranting that he was being censored as would most on here. He kicks off in press conferences because he wants the attention, that's not the paper's fault is it?

Or he kicks off because he is a very clever bloke who wants something out of the club - like some backing in his quest to turn us into a club with a better mentality top to bottom, including the yoofs which he obviously sees as a problem


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, December 14, 2012, 13:20:27
PDC out! Let's Bring back Wilson, or Hart, or McMahon, or Evans, or Malpas, or Wise, or Onoura so we can continue to plod along in L1 and L2 watching dull shite.

Seriously, the comments on this are fucking ridiculous. God forbid anyone speak openly, honestly, have some drive and want to improve everything about the club.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: leefer on Friday, December 14, 2012, 13:21:52
The manager speaking honestly is brilliant Panda.....speaking Bollocks is another.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 14, 2012, 13:40:55
Have we got a game tomorrow? are we just about to hit the busy Christmas period of fixtures that could make or break our promotion push/seasons.

Has anyone noticed that? Is anyone talking about that? nah.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: london_red on Friday, December 14, 2012, 13:44:58
Have we got a game tomorrow? are we just about to hit the busy Christmas period of fixtures that could make or break our promotion push/seasons.

Has anyone noticed that? Is anyone talking about that? nah.

Are you saying that's a good thing or a bad thing? Assume you mean he is using it as a diversionary tactic to take the pressure off the players? In which case it couldn't hurt - as the run of results after Preston etc showed.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 14, 2012, 13:50:17
Yes. I'm saying the most important thing is results. We've dropped off the pace a little in recent weeks and are going into the busy period. Its make or break and no one seems to have noticed or even care.

Lets all talk about Di Canio - its like being on an Oxford/Shrewsbury/Crawley/ect forum.

We're still Swindon Town F.C.


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, December 14, 2012, 14:01:14
why wouldn't we discuss our own manager?


Title: Re: tomorrows adver
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, December 14, 2012, 14:38:39
Yes. I'm saying the most important thing is results. We've dropped off the pace a little in recent weeks and are going into the busy period. Its make or break and no one seems to have noticed or even care.

Lets all talk about Di Canio - its like being on an Oxford/Shrewsbury/Crawley/ect forum.

We're still Swindon Town F.C.

Maybe this is a tactic to deflect attention and pressure away from the team. I know a few have said that before, though it's not one I really beleive myself.

As an aside, I think the players would like di Canio more if he grew an 1800's strongman mustache.