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Title: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: News Monkey on Monday, November 5, 2012, 06:00:07
Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
           
           



  PAOLO Di Canio has excused himself of any responsibility for Swindon Town’s 2-0 defeat to Macclesfield in the FA Cup on Saturday, lumping the blame entirely on his players.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10025926.Excuse_me__it_s_all_the_players__fault___Di_Canio/?ref=rss
           
           
           


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, November 5, 2012, 07:05:04
Every time he washes his dirty linen in public like this, he weakens his own standing with both the players and the fans.  Getting very boring now.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 5, 2012, 07:15:18
Every time he washes his dirty linen in public like this, he weakens his own standing with both the players and the fans.  Getting very boring now.

 :nod: , though this was taken from the post match interview so its nothing new.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 5, 2012, 07:15:36
Nah.

It'll all be nice and fuzzy again after we muller Sheffield on Tuesday.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: dell returns on Monday, November 5, 2012, 07:30:24
The buck stops at the manager, not the players.

'We need the transfer embargo lifted' - a good cup run would have put money in the kitty for the future.

You picked the team Mr Di Canio, you should shoulder the blame, now shut up and get on with the job.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Monday, November 5, 2012, 07:36:49
we love him, we hate him, we love him, we hate him. I forget which one it is today


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 5, 2012, 07:55:25
Dear paolo,

You played troy Archibald-henville in central midfield, he was absolutely hopeless and if he is a central midfielder then I'm a cottage pie. This is your fault.

Yours,

Someone with eyes.

P.s - stop being a twat and get on with what you are paid to do.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, November 5, 2012, 08:32:07
On first read my immediate thought was to put him to the top of my 'WAC' list but having had time to reflect he kind of has a point... Yes he did put out an unorthidox team but I guess he was expecting them to perform and resting some players for Tuesday.  Had they played to their ability then we would have walked this but they didn't so I guess he has a point.  I just wish he would start to shorten his post match interviews when we play shit and save his rants for the players when they turn up at 7:30 on Sunday morning...

If he had played Louis Thompson and Miles Story from the outset instead of TAH and Rooney he may have at least got the fans on board with his 'weakened' team selection but it now just looks like he is trying to find any way he can to get his point across regarding the need to lift the embargo.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: wiggy on Monday, November 5, 2012, 08:40:55
Agree with the sentiments expressed so far. I am not in any "Paolo out" camp, if there even is one, and think that we are best off sticking with him as he has delivered a pretyy successful season so far.

If I was his manager (i.e. Watkins, Patey or Black) I would be setting him guidelines on what I expect in his dealings with the media, and preparing my ground being able to dismiss him for misconduct if it reached a stage where that was best for the club.

There is a very good post on Thisis:

"If the manager wont accept responsibility for the players he signs...trains and selects for the team on the day...he is not exactly setting a good example to enable his players to take responsibility when playing on the day...is he PDC?
Publicaly Slating individual players as in the the above artical does not help either PDC.
The responsibility stops with you PDC..LIKE IT OR NOT!"


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Benzel on Monday, November 5, 2012, 08:48:52
What was it Shankly said about tactics and players?


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, November 5, 2012, 09:28:43
If I was his manager (i.e. Watkins, Patey or Black) I would be setting him guidelines on what I expect in his dealings with the media

It staggers me that, presumably, this hasn't happened.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Sippo on Monday, November 5, 2012, 10:31:49
Paolo out. How dare he excuse the players of not putting in 100% effort.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 5, 2012, 10:55:47
He's getting off quite lightly if the focus is just on him slagging off the players. Have the board apologised to the team and the fans yet?

Never his fault is it?


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Arriba on Monday, November 5, 2012, 11:09:17
Maybe he forgot who spent all the money and picked the team?


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 5, 2012, 11:20:44
Maybe he forgot who spent all the money and picked the team?
That can't have been the problem because the bloke who did that is a "Top, top manager" apparently. Nope, must be the team and the board. And the FA. And the League. And the fans. And we haven't heard so much about Curly lately have we? I reckon he's got a hand in it somewhere


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: DMR on Monday, November 5, 2012, 11:21:29
I am quite confident most managers with our resources and squad would get us out of the division. If it bothers PDC that much he can fuck right off.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: random_five on Monday, November 5, 2012, 11:28:41
Yeah fuck him and his 61% win ratio

Lets appoint Brian Laws.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Benzel on Monday, November 5, 2012, 13:30:39
Yeah I expect he's left wing and pays more attention to the youth system.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Arriba on Monday, November 5, 2012, 13:35:23
We all know di canio changes with the wind. 2 weeks ago the 2  youth players were only good enough for relegation.both storey and thompson have since been praised. A win on Tuesday and all will be good again.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, November 5, 2012, 13:40:17
We all know di canio changes with the wind. 2 weeks ago the 2  youth players were only good enough for relegation.both storey and thompson have since been praised. A win on Tuesday and all will be good again.

I think he meant the kids from the under 18s. He didn't mention any names to be fair to him.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, November 5, 2012, 13:41:25
The buck stops at the manager, not the players.

'We need the transfer embargo lifted' - a good cup run would have put money in the kitty for the future.

You picked the team Mr Di Canio, you should shoulder the blame, now shut up and get on with the job.


Maybe he should invest in a remote control and control the players himself then?

I don't agree with all this "the buck stops with the manager" stuff. Sure he has to take some of the blame but he can't play the match for his players.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, November 5, 2012, 13:42:05
I am quite confident most managers with our resources and squad would get us out of the division. If it bothers PDC that much he can fuck right off.

I've said this before...our squad isn't as good as people think it is.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Arriba on Monday, November 5, 2012, 13:42:21
He mentioned thompson and he is still an u18. And the youth in general also


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 5, 2012, 13:44:10
I've said this before...our squad isn't as good as people think it is.
So where does the buck stop for that then?


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Dostoyevsky on Monday, November 5, 2012, 13:45:33
I love Paolo Di Canio. I wish to put that on record. We will eulogise about this era in years to come. Please don't give him the invitation he needs to jump ship. WE LOVE YOU PAOLO


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, November 5, 2012, 13:52:29
So where does the buck stop for that then?

PDC obviously but in some people eyes PDC will never do any wrong.

I hope after 3 transfer windows under PDC, in January there would just be some miild tinkering needed.  But to hell with that ....... The revolving door at the County Ground will be in full flow again ....

Has Bessone left the club or is still hanging around?


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 5, 2012, 14:22:12
Has Bessone left the club or is still hanging around?
Think Bessone's injured isn't he?


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Arriba on Monday, November 5, 2012, 14:26:07
Surprised nobody has mentioned pdc taking the credit for wins when he only referred to himself. I did this and I did that. The coming out and taking a bow after games shows he is bigger than the club and anyone in it. Dangerous ground to be on imo


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: dell returns on Monday, November 5, 2012, 15:08:09
Maybe he should invest in a remote control and control the players himself then?

I don't agree with all this "the buck stops with the manager" stuff. Sure he has to take some of the blame but he can't play the match for his players.

When Wilson got the sack with a side who made the play offs the season before and eventually relegated the following season, where did the buck stop?

I'm just sick of him slating everyone, especially the players immediately after the game, who benefits, surely not the players.

I'm not a Di Canio hater yet, but wouldn't give two fucks if he left of his own accord or pushed.




Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 5, 2012, 16:22:21
Yeah fuck him and his 61% win ratio

Lets appoint Brian Laws.

Alan Knill, is without a club atm, a fella who can get te best out of Leon Clarke.

For all his faults, PdC has breathed a bit of life into the club, let's just enjoy it while we can.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: random_five on Monday, November 5, 2012, 16:35:15
Alan Knill, is without a club atm, a fella who can get te best out of Leon Clarke.

For all his faults, PdC has breathed a bit of life into the club, let's just enjoy it while we can.

I assume you realise I was being sarcastic


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 5, 2012, 16:39:04
I assume you realise I was being sarcastic

You would be correct in your assumption..


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, November 5, 2012, 17:56:02
So where does the buck stop for that then?

Tough question to answer. He chose to sign them but it was always going to take time for some to settle. Some haven't delivered in my opinion. Adam Rooney for a start and Gary Roberts in my opinion has been average.

I'm not saying we have a shit squad at all. In fact the point i'm trying to make is that I think everyone has got a bit carried away in the summer and the first few games of the season and thought we were a very good team who would finish top 2. In reality we are just a good team who may or may not make the top 6.

I think PDC gets way too much stick when he says something that people don't want to hear. When we win though everyone loves him which is quite amusing. It's normally the same people slagging him off and then praising him the next week.

As has been mentioned his win % tells the story. I think people read too much into the whole PDC circus sometimes.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, November 5, 2012, 18:02:56
When Wilson got the sack with a side who made the play offs the season before and eventually relegated the following season, where did the buck stop?

I'm just sick of him slating everyone, especially the players immediately after the game, who benefits, surely not the players.

I'm not a Di Canio hater yet, but wouldn't give two fucks if he left of his own accord or pushed.


A bit of a difference though isn't there? Wilson had us bottom in the new year. Paolo has us in 7th with over a quarter of the season gone. You can't really say the buck stops with him as he hasn't exactly had a disastrous start to the season. In fact it's been quite the opposite.

Clearly the players do benefit from his rants. Look at the Stevenage game the other week. He's had massive rants at players before and they have responded. Flint is a good example of that.

It's your last comment that I don't understand. You're telling me you wouldn't care if we lost a manager with his record? Come off it. We'll end up with another manager from the usual list of candidates. If he left tomorrow we'd get Phil Brown or someone. No thanks.

He was always going to divide opinion when he arrived but for me there is only one thing that matters and that's results. It's a results business after all.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: otanswell on Monday, November 5, 2012, 18:29:07
Paolo is the next Kenny Dalglish
Always the victim, always in denial


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: leefer on Monday, November 5, 2012, 18:36:59
Paolo is the next Kenny Dalglish
Always the victim, always in denial

Paolo has admited many times this season and last that he got things wrong...as far as i am aware this is the first time he has said that he feels Saturdays debacle was down to the players alone.
Players like Roberts and Williams need to buck up and quick.......they have bags of ability and need to find a higher gear.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: otanswell on Monday, November 5, 2012, 18:43:53
Perhaps there taking too much gear? soapy tit wank


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Bumpkin on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 00:20:22
I'm sure Mario Balotelli could lend PDC one of his T shirts.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 09:54:59
Surprised nobody has mentioned pdc taking the credit for wins when he only referred to himself. I did this and I did that.

Has this ever actually happened?


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 10:00:11
Yeah, he was very self-congratulatory (after Stevenage, I think it was?). Soundbytes like "I got us this win, I am a top manager".


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 10:06:22
Fair enough, I didn't read any of the post match. I've taken to not reading everything he says now but he has also been known to heap praise on the players.
I still think privately he would have given them a good pat on the back after that one.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 10:10:22
Oh yeah, you'd think so... we've no idea how he treats the players privately (and ignoring Caddis and Kerrouche, we've not had any dissenters thus far!)


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 10:10:35
Yeah, he was very self-congratulatory (after Stevenage, I think it was?). Soundbytes like "I got us this win, I am a top manager".

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4613610/Stevenage-0-Swindon-4.html


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 10:11:30
I was just going on the radio interview (and don't particularly care either way!)


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 10:12:43
PDC does praise himself at times. But to suggest that he takes all the credit without praising his players is simply just not true.


Title: Re: Adver News: Excuse me, it's all the players' fault - Di Canio
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 10:56:10
I mentioned it as this article was about di canio blaming the players. I know what I heard .of course he has credited the players too but the point still stands. He is as quick  to take the credit himself as he is to blame others