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Title: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: News Monkey on Monday, October 8, 2012, 06:00:10
Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
           
           



  PAOLO Di Canio is fearful Swindon Town’s promotion bid could be derailed if he is unable to bring in more players during the emergency loan window.

           

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Title: Re: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: tans on Monday, October 8, 2012, 07:05:51
Ffs use the ones you have alredy


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, October 8, 2012, 07:09:38
Double standards from PDC?!  :hmmm:

He's quoted as saying that Adam Rooney joined with no fitness whatsoever, then gets shot of Zavon Hines in pre-season after a day because he wasn't fit.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, October 8, 2012, 07:18:45
Has paolo using the media to appy pressure to Jeremy Wray and the board been discussed on here?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, October 8, 2012, 07:22:50
Has paolo using the media to appy pressure to Jeremy Wray and the board been discussed on here?

A valid point. I hope JW has the balls to say No to PDC. As much as I want to see us promoted, I don't want it to be at all costs. The club has to be sustainable regardless of how deep the owners pockets are.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: wiggy on Monday, October 8, 2012, 08:01:56
We have a pretty large squad, and have cover for all the positions he mentions. We have loan players not being used, so it seems to me that if we send them back we will come back under the cap.

I am happy to enjoy the ride on the PdC circus, but he doesn't come across well in the media.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 8, 2012, 08:12:23
Sorry to get in the way of a good argument with some actual facts, but:

Squad sizes of the top 10 teams (Taken directly from their official sites)

Swindon     - 25 (Including L Rooney)
Tranmere    - 22
Stevenage  - 26
Sheffield     - 29
Dongs        - 19
Crawley      - 26
Notts Co.    - 27
Preston NE  - 26
Brentford    - 24
Doncatser   - 22

While we may have quality throughout the squad, it is not as 'massive' as some people are making out. Interesting to see dongs on only 19. One has to wonder whether they will still be there or thereabouts if the keep a squad that size.

Personally, I think PDC should focus on why we are picking up injuries so regularly in the first place.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: wiggy on Monday, October 8, 2012, 08:19:29
Sorry to get in the way of a good argument with some actual facts, but:

Squad sizes of the top 10 teams (Taken directly from their official sites)

Swindon     - 25 (Including L Rooney)
Tranmere    - 22
Stevenage  - 26
Sheffield     - 29
Dongs        - 19
Crawley      - 26
Notts Co.    - 27
Preston NE  - 26
Brentford    - 24
Doncatser   - 22

While we may have quality throughout the squad, it is not as 'massive' as some people are making out. Interesting to see dongs on only 19. One has to wonder whether they will still be there or thereabouts if the keep a squad that size.

Personally, I think PDC should focus on why we are picking up injuries so regularly in the first place.


Good point, but I would answer by saying that at 25 he has more than 2 players per position, so deal with it. The win at Bury showed that you can play a player out of position at a pinch for a game or two and still get the result.

If Paolo wants to be considered a good manager, he has to learn to manage the resources he has rather than just want to spend his way out of the league.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 8, 2012, 08:21:55
I totally agree FH I argued the same point on the Creepy forum when they were saying earlier in the season about squad size and us buying every player we could....when in actual fact at the time Creepy had 3 more registered players than we did.

We have an average size squad for this league but the large amount of injuries incurred is way above what it should be.

I think Paolo needs to take a long hard look at the fitness trianing employed by the club because it obviously isn't working as it should, we should be the fittest team in the league and we aren't.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 8, 2012, 08:25:30
Good point, but I would answer by saying that at 25 he has more than 2 players per position.


Not if they're injured he doesn't.

Again, that seems to be the real source of the problem. Reduce the number of injuries to a normal level and it gives him a larger squad to play with.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 8, 2012, 08:27:43
While we may have quality throughout the squad, it is not as 'massive' as some people are making out. .

A fair point.

Even so its the cost of the quality that's the issue. I'm not sure its quite as simple as sending loan players back. I have no idea whether we are committed to paying for a % of wage for N months regardless?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: red sheldon on Monday, October 8, 2012, 08:37:59
Sorry to get in the way of a good argument with some actual facts, but:

Squad sizes of the top 10 teams (Taken directly from their official sites)

Swindon     - 25 (Including L Rooney)
Tranmere    - 22
Stevenage  - 26
Sheffield     - 29
Dongs        - 19
Crawley      - 26
Notts Co.    - 27
Preston NE  - 26
Brentford    - 24
Doncatser   - 22

While we may have quality throughout the squad, it is not as 'massive' as some people are making out. Interesting to see dongs on only 19. One has to wonder whether they will still be there or thereabouts if the keep a squad that size.

Personally, I think PDC should focus on why we are picking up injuries so regularly in the first place.


very interesting the only slight problem is how many of these players in other squads are youth team players rather than expensive players.  It would certainly be interesting to see how our wage bill compares to the rest of the division, as there is so much crap and misinformation swirling around I think the club should try to clarify this even if only in general terms such as we're in the top 1/3rd but there are clubs with higher wage bills for example.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 8, 2012, 08:46:09
very interesting the only slight problem is how many of these players in other squads are youth team players rather than expensive players. 

Again this is nullified by the fact we seem to be picking up too many injuries.



Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Paolo69 on Monday, October 8, 2012, 08:47:54
very interesting the only slight problem is how many of these players in other squads are youth team players rather than expensive players.  It would certainly be interesting to see how our wage bill compares to the rest of the division, as there is so much crap and misinformation swirling around I think the club should try to clarify this even if only in general terms such as we're in the top 1/3rd but there are clubs with higher wage bills for example.

We probably are in the top third when it comes to wages. Don't think there's much doubt about it. Expect we're in the top third when it comes to income at the moment too though so not really surprising.

It's all relative. Bury had less than 3,000 there Saturday and we took 400 of those so i'd expect their wage bill to be a lot less than ours.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, October 8, 2012, 09:02:41
I am not so concerned at the squad size, more the revolving door transfer policy.

I was going to make the point that consistency is important but Paolo has disproved that already.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: kerry red on Monday, October 8, 2012, 09:27:58
Bet everyone is glad there is no poxy JPT game tomorrow


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: DRS on Monday, October 8, 2012, 09:55:07
We havnt really had that many injuries though have we


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, October 8, 2012, 09:56:27
If Paolo wants to be considered a good manager, he has to learn to manage the resources he has rather than just want to spend his way out of the league.
You'd think Harry Redknapp was his mentor wouldn't you.

Personally, I think PDC should focus on why we are picking up injuries so regularly in the first place.
Are we really picking up injuries at an unusual frequency? We currently have three players out, which seems pretty unexceptional to me. The fact that it's three of our best performers may be related to the fact that they've played nearly every game, which means that for all Paolo's rotations, we currently seem to be over-reliant on the same three or four core players. Now's the time for Paolo to prove he's a great manager and use the quality he's assembled. It's what a squad's there for.

How many League 1 managers could replace Williams, McCormack and Roberts with reserves of the calibre of Benson/Rooney, Flint/TAH/Devera and De Vita/Storey? (OK, so we may be a winger light...).


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 8, 2012, 09:57:49
We havnt really had that many injuries though have we

It seems every week we're picking up an injury or two.



Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, October 8, 2012, 09:59:08
It seems every week we're picking up an injury or two.



No wonder Paolo needs this embargo lifted so he can get in a few more!


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: DRS on Monday, October 8, 2012, 10:00:43
I may be being thick but i cant think of many,roberts seems to be the major issue


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 8, 2012, 10:03:42
Roberts, Macca and Williams at the mo. Is De Vita injured? That'll be four.

TAH, Thompson and Benson have recently just come back from injuries.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, October 8, 2012, 10:04:09
TAH was out for a few weeks to begin with, Thompson missed a couple through injury and Roberts is another who's been out.

It's hardly an injury crisis is it?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 8, 2012, 10:07:37
Whoah.

Don't go putting words in my mouth, I said bugger all about an injury crisis.

We do seemingly have four first teamers out at the moment though which is higher than usual, and two of those play in the same position leaving that position looking a little short.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 8, 2012, 11:40:56
Think I could have explained myself better.....

As it stands, with Williams, Roberts and De Vita unavailable we are left with only one winger at the club. Even if we recalled L Rooney we are still left without cover.

Think that says it all really.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, October 8, 2012, 11:45:59
I think PDC need to stop moaning and get on with the job to be honest. He brings in all these players then claims he needs more. We cant just keep bringing players in willy nilly. We have 2 or 3 injuries but still plenty of cover. Maybe PDC should play Bostock and recall Rooney rather than sit there claiming he needs players.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, October 8, 2012, 12:01:27
Think I could have explained myself better.....

As it stands, with Williams, Roberts and De Vita unavailable we are left with only one winger at the club. Even if we recalled L Rooney we are still left without cover.

Think that says it all really.

This.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio fears promotion bid may slip without further loan signings
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, October 8, 2012, 12:08:57
You'd think Harry Redknapp was his mentor wouldn't you.

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