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Title: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Family at War on Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 18:11:03
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-17677969


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: otanswell on Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 22:12:03
A white Marlon King


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Friday, April 20, 2012, 14:25:18
Found Guilty.


Wow, been jailed for 5 years.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: tans on Friday, April 20, 2012, 14:35:11
Good


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: LucienSanchez on Friday, April 20, 2012, 14:36:11
Wow, 5 years eh? Wonder who'll sign him on release?


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Gnasher on Friday, April 20, 2012, 14:40:36
Strange how the other bloke got away with it, considering he took her back to the hotel.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, April 20, 2012, 14:50:42
The BBC reports suggest they were both involved. Obviously not heard the evidence given but it does seem odd for one to walk away while the other gets 5 years.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: LucienSanchez on Friday, April 20, 2012, 14:51:59
I think his mate took her back to the hotel, then Evans had a go. Maybe the fact she went back with the other lad implied consent on his part?


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Friday, April 20, 2012, 14:55:19
Bit strange that the 12 people on the jury can say one is definately not guilty and the same 12 say the other is definately guilty  :hmmm:

Presume there must be more to this than has been publicly released?


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: sheepshagger on Friday, April 20, 2012, 14:55:38
That's definitely a weird one !!

They both admitted having sex with her - and it was the other fella who took her back to the hotel...

They found cannabis and cocaine in her blood (but she claimed to never have taken either) and she didn't report the incident until that evening having gone to work on a late shift (not that this makes anyone less guilty)

Just all a bit weird !!


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: dporter on Friday, April 20, 2012, 15:09:14
What i don't understand is how these situations arise again and again! Time after time footballers get accused of raping drunken girls and time after time these girls put themselves into potentially risky situations. Why do they not learn from the mistakes of others! Either the guys think they can take advantage of drunken girls or they use their status to attract the girls. On the flip side these girls often seem to go with the footballers to make a fast buck (just check the Sunday papers most weeks) or they go out, get trashed and end up in a dangerous situation. I'm not condoning either party but it riles me that people put themselves in these positions!




Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: ron dodgers on Friday, April 20, 2012, 15:29:51
so you'd rather they wore a burkha and got a thrashing if they stepped out of line then???


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: dporter on Friday, April 20, 2012, 15:36:32
No, that's not what i'm saying!


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Friday, April 20, 2012, 15:47:27
A lot of footballers think they can do what they want to who they want and get away with it.

Good ridance

I hope there is someone in jail that takes the same line that he did on consent


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Friday, April 20, 2012, 15:52:47
On a football note, makes Wilson's job a hell of a lot harder to get sheffield up. Wouldnt be surprised to see Wednesday sneak up with Charlton now

Evans scored 25 odd goals i think?


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: tans on Friday, April 20, 2012, 15:55:28
Not the 5 year deal ched evans was hoping for


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, April 20, 2012, 16:10:54
I see Dean Morgan is doing OUFC proud on Twitter


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Sippo on Friday, April 20, 2012, 16:14:56
Jailed for 5 years for rape, yet someone who murders someone else during the riots gets 8 years.

This country has gone to pot especially the legal system. The murderer should've got a lot longer.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: leefer on Friday, April 20, 2012, 18:30:33
Jailed for 5 years for rape, yet someone who murders someone else during the riots gets 8 years.

This country has gone to pot especially the legal system. The murderer should've got a lot longer.

Most woman would probably equate rape to murder.....even if the law dosn't.

But i get your point Sippo.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: stfcinbmth on Friday, April 20, 2012, 18:41:21
A lot of footballers think they can do what they want to who they want and get away with it.

Good ridance

I hope there is someone in jail that takes the same line that he did on consent

Yep


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Dozno9 on Friday, April 20, 2012, 18:41:25
Dean Morgan, you're getting sacked in the morning.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: janaage on Friday, April 20, 2012, 18:48:44
Not the 5 year deal ched evans was hoping for

As Fergie may comment for Evans it's a real case of squeaky bum time now!


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: medwayred on Friday, April 20, 2012, 18:52:22
Lets hope he gets his bum raped and see how the dirty welsh twat likes it.........scum bag


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: janaage on Friday, April 20, 2012, 18:55:39
Being serious for a second I'm not sure I agree with, he shagged some drunk bird, with or without consent, so I hope he get abused in prison. I think being locked up for 5 years is punishment enough to be honest. Fair enough joke about it, but come on wishing some to get anally penetrated because he was guilty isn't on really.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Langers on Friday, April 20, 2012, 18:59:02
Dean Morgan, you're getting sacked in the morning.

Looks like he has taken it down now, what did he say?


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: DRS on Friday, April 20, 2012, 18:59:25
Neither is thinking 5 years is adequate enough punishment for a rapist.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Friday, April 20, 2012, 19:00:18
Being serious for a second I'm not sure I agree with, he shagged some drunk bird, with or without consent, so I hope he get abused in prison. I think being locked up for 5 years is punishment enough to be honest. Fair enough joke about it, but come on wishing some to get anally penetrated because he was guilty isn't on really.

I'm not joking


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: janaage on Friday, April 20, 2012, 19:04:24
I meant joke about the situation. I can tell that some people are being serious when they hope he gets raped himself.  That kind of justice is barbaric and only suited to the dark ages.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: stfcinbmth on Friday, April 20, 2012, 19:07:05
Being serious for a second I'm not sure I agree with, he shagged some drunk bird, with or without consent, so I hope he get abused in prison. I think being locked up for 5 years is punishment enough to be honest. Fair enough joke about it, but come on wishing some to get anally penetrated because he was guilty isn't on really.

If he didn't get consent then there's no way five years is long enough

Live by the sword, die by the sword is my answer to the second part


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, April 20, 2012, 19:13:28
Live by the sword, die by the sword is my answer to the second part

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/if-you-know-what-i-mean.png


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Friday, April 20, 2012, 19:16:46
I meant joke about the situation. I can tell that some people are being serious when they hope he gets raped himself.  That kind of justice is barbaric and only suited to the dark ages.

Scot harks back to the dark ages shock


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, April 20, 2012, 19:22:19
As soon as he got in his cell he asked for the wall to be moved back 2 yards.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: janaage on Friday, April 20, 2012, 19:24:24
As soon as he got in his cell he asked for the wall to be moved back 2 yards.

Ha ha, good one.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, April 20, 2012, 19:56:37
Personally, I'm always very dubious about rape claims against stars. They are always vulnerable to people wanting to make a name for themselves and I've seen two cases of false allegations against (not famous) people I know

If he is genuinely guilty then he should be doing time (and the other lad must surely be complicit also), but for me there's always a doubt in my mind in cases like this one.



Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: janaage on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:03:56
Don't be stupid Flashheart he's guilty so he must take his fair share of buggery!

Bring out the gimp!


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Arriba on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:16:10
Personally, I'm always very dubious about rape claims against stars. They are always vulnerable to people wanting to make a name for themselves and I've seen two cases of false allegations against (not famous) people I know

If he is genuinely guilty then he should be doing time (and the other lad must surely be complicit also), but for me there's always a doubt in my mind in cases like this one.



I'm with you on this. I also know people who have had false allegations made against them. Named in the paper and all the shit that goes with it when completely innocent. One even went on remand in prison before being found not guilty.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: deltaincline on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:21:14
Being serious for a second I'm not sure I agree with, he shagged some drunk bird, with or without consent, so I hope he get abused in prison. I think being locked up for 5 years is punishment enough to be honest. Fair enough joke about it, but come on wishing some to get anally penetrated because he was guilty isn't on really.

I think people are leaning towards retribution, eye for an eye, etc. Maybe not right, given that the law process has been gone through and he's been sent down, but rape is a fucking awful crime - worse that murder in my opinion as the victim suffers for the rest of their lives, as do the family members, husbands / boyfriends etc.

The law provides a period of incarceration for rapists, which is viewed by many as being far too lenient, hence the wish for him to go through a bit of pain as well.

At the end of the day the bloke is now a nonce. He'll get segregation cover in the nick, but will definately be a target for physical damage or otherwise, same as all nonces are. Screw usually turn the other way and CCTV is usually on the blink during attacks.... fair play.

Regardless of whether or not he's actually guilty or some fucked-up bint made it all up to get a headline - which would be weird, as rape victims usually remain anon - he's been found guilty and I hope some hairy arsed, horny as fuck prisoner sticks him one up the shitter on a regular basis, right throughout his sentence.



Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:24:17

Bring out the gimp!

That tune is gonna be stuck with me for weeks now.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: janaage on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:31:17

Regardless of whether or not he's actually guilty - he's been found guilty and I hope some hairy arsed, horny as fuck prisoner sticks him one up the shitter on a regular basis, right throughout his sentence.

So if you were charged with rape, found guilty, even though you innocent, you'd be happy for like minded people to 'hope some hairy arsed, horny as fuck prisoner sticks you one up the shitter on a regular basis, right throughout your sentence.'

That's some call that.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Coca Fola on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:36:19
So if you were charged with rape, found guilty, even though you innocent, you'd be happy for like minded people to 'hope some hairy arsed, horny as fuck prisoner sticks you one up the shitter on a regular basis, right throughout your sentence.'

That's some call that.
Delta would enjoy it.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:36:41
It's crazy that both admitted snagging her but one is guilty and the other is Scott free!?


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: deltaincline on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:37:01
So if you were charged with rape, found guilty, even though you innocent, you'd be happy for like minded people to 'hope some hairy arsed, horny as fuck prisoner sticks you one up the shitter on a regular basis, right throughout your sentence.'

That's some call that.

No. I'm assuming he's guilty.

Do you feel the same about Myra Hindley, Rose West etc? They MIGHT be innocent, eh?



Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: deltaincline on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:38:23
Delta would enjoy it.

No bait on the hook, Fola.

Ever the thick cunt, eh?  :smugfu:


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:38:25
No. I'm assuming he's guilty.

Do you feel the same about Myra Hindley, Rose West etc? They MIGHT be innocent, eh?



But you did begin with.....

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Regardless of whether or not he's actually guilty


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Coca Fola on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:38:59
Touched a nerve have I?   :nod:


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: joteddyred on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:42:06
I'm with you on this. I also know people who have had false allegations made against them. Named in the paper and all the shit that goes with it when completely innocent. One even went on remand in prison before being found not guilty.

Same here.  Happened to a friend of mine.  He had to move out of Swindon under his bail conditions for the 8 months or so until the case came to court and the other bloke accused with him lost his job over it. Their pictures were splashed all over the Adver while the case was going on.  After the not guilty verdict, the accuser admitted to various people it had been a consensual threesome and she made it up because she was worried people would find out and think she was a slag.  The police decided not to press charges for some unknown reason and she got to remain anonymous, absolute joke.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: janaage on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:48:41
No. I'm assuming he's guilty.

Do you feel the same about Myra Hindley, Rose West etc? They MIGHT be innocent, eh?

What have those two got to do with a chap who's just been found guilty for rape?  In a case where the female's version of events is summed up by a number of her responses in court 'I can't remember'.  Now I'm not saying Evan's is guilty or not, but to wish that someone is buggered for 5 years is pretty sick.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: DRS on Friday, April 20, 2012, 20:52:20
He will be far away from anyone who can do him harm anyway.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: leefer on Friday, April 20, 2012, 21:05:52
Fact is it takes a hell of a lot of evidence to get a rape trial to court let alone getting a verdict.
The evidence must have been really strong to get it to court.

He has been found guilty by a jury and has got his just deserts.....just a shame he and his scum mate just couldn't man up and save her all the trouble of going through a trial.

If you meet a girl who is pissed as a fart taking advantage of her and leaving her alone in a strange room and filming it all at the same time.......5 years is the least he deserves.

The sad thing being is the way they treated this girl(rape or not) they still probably do not think there actions are wrong.....well maybe the next few years he will have plenty of time to contemplate his actions.


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, April 20, 2012, 21:11:19
Fact is it takes a hell of a lot of evidence to get a rape trial to court let alone getting a verdict.


You'd be surprised Leefer.

I speak from experience (no, I wasn't the accused)


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: Coca Fola on Friday, April 20, 2012, 22:26:27
You'd be surprised Leefer.

I speak from experience (no, I wasn't the accused)
You were the victim?  ???


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: ron dodgers on Saturday, April 21, 2012, 18:03:36
Oh ffs stop beating about the bush ( yes - ha ha ) and divulge the facts - no tapping on the side of the nose here!!


Title: Re: Ched Evans on his way to prison?
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, April 21, 2012, 18:04:48
Didn't miss him today?!