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Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Sussex on Sunday, July 24, 2005, 21:51:33
To top off a not so very great weekend (Crawley game excluded) I've just had a visit from the police.

Pissed off, so can't be arsed to go into detail.

1996 - 18 month ban for drink driving (stupid I know)
1997 - Nicked at 126mph (they sent the court summons to the wrong address, caught up with me and extended the dd ban,
1993 - 3 x drugs charges (well documented on here in previous posts - lucky to get off with just probation)

And now Mr French Cunt from Friday has found himself a 'witness'. Some woman from Haywards Heath who stopped after it happened.
Apparently, according to the rozzers, I'm looking at 'a bit of a stretch inside'! For fucks sake! How the hell does that work!!

Anyone on here who's met me, I'd hope would confirm I'm an alright kind of bloke. (Mex excluded as I'm obviously a cunt)

Wankers - I'm bricking it to say the least.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, July 24, 2005, 21:53:20
How are they going to put you away because somebody pulled out in front of you?


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, July 24, 2005, 21:56:00
I say the witness is talking bollox mate. Unluckly dude. Chin up mate  :wink:


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, July 24, 2005, 21:56:48
1st advice mate. Dont listen to the police. It is their idea of a joke to make people panic. Its all a game to them.

Get some proper advice. Solicitors are expensive but they are worth their weight in gold. If you rely on the duty solicitor they take the piss. If you have your own they take your case seriously.

You aint going down.

I fucking hate the french.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Sussex on Sunday, July 24, 2005, 21:57:34
I was going way too fast, she's also siding with him 100% - and they've just read me my list of past misdemeanors. It's not a pretty story.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, July 24, 2005, 22:02:12
The only serious crime on your record is the drugs charges which are over 10 years ago, the other driving bans are also nearly ten years old now. It's a fucking joke!

As Spencer says, the police love to make you shit yourself, they love it.

P.S. I can confirm you're more than a nice bloke 8)


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Sunday, July 24, 2005, 22:14:42
FOR FUCKS SAKE! get a solicitor fast, good luck mate and i would like to add


SUSSEX RED IS ACE


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: walrus on Sunday, July 24, 2005, 22:16:23
Quote from: "sonicyouth"


P.S. I can confirm you're more than a nice bloke 8)


 :|  Sounds ominous...

That's fucking ludicrous!  The driver is at fault as he has pulled out in front of you.  Simple as.  Why the fuck to meddling cunts like this woman get involved?  Do they have nothing better to do?  Speeding or not someone should not pull out in front of you.  End of.  Hope it sorts itself out.  Try discrediting the witness - maybe she has a history of alcoholism or summat  :D


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Spud on Sunday, July 24, 2005, 22:19:27
Fuck sake!, that woman should be ashamed of herself for siding with the French cunt!. Good luck Sussex Red.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Dazzza on Sunday, July 24, 2005, 23:35:15
Looking at your rap sheet there Sussex I think a couple of you past charges may be covered under the rehabilitation of offenders act and been wiped clean.

http://www.disclosure.gov.uk/docs/pdf/ROA%20Leaflet.pdf


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1996 - 18 month ban for drink driving (stupid I know)


5 years - Gone, although I think it sticks on your license for 11 years.  Not sure if that can or cannot be taken into any account.
 
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1997 - Nicked at 126mph (they sent the court summons to the wrong address, caught up with me and extended the dd ban,


Again 5 years so it should now be gone.
 

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1993 - 3 x drugs charges (well documented on here in previous posts - lucky to get off with just probation)


Again I think that's 5 years as well so you should be completely clean and past offences can't be taken into account in court.

Get yourself a decent brief and go through the events with a fine tooth comb.  

Start asking questions and check out all the facts.

Why didn't you see the woman stop?
What time did she claim to have been there?
Did you report the incident, if not what reason?

I wouldn't stress to much until you have spoken to a legal eagle.  Sounds like bollocks about a strech and is a bit of a wind up.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: ron dodgers on Monday, July 25, 2005, 00:10:40
are you covered on your insurance for legal costs Sussex?
and you might want to rephrase the 9:57pm post


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Sussex on Monday, July 25, 2005, 00:18:49
Quote from: "ron dodgers"
are you covered on your insurance for legal costs Sussex?
and you might want to rephrase the 9:57pm post


Oh shit, have I dropped myself in it!?


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 25, 2005, 00:22:27
Quote from: "Sussex Red"
Quote from: "ron dodgers"
are you covered on your insurance for legal costs Sussex?
and you might want to rephrase the 9:57pm post


Oh shit, have I dropped myself in it!?

Not if you edit it. I didn't see anything. Anyone else? Thought not.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: yeo on Monday, July 25, 2005, 05:02:08
You'll be fine the cunts are just trying to wind you up but like everyone else has said get yourself some good legal advice.

Good luck.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Asher on Monday, July 25, 2005, 07:38:40
Have to agree spend the money on solicitors, they can help you get away with it.  Actually if youve been truthful on here its his falut.  French prick.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, July 25, 2005, 08:25:00
This takes the piss dude.  As everyone else says get yourself a decent brief and dispose of the smelly french tosser.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: JMH75 on Monday, July 25, 2005, 08:36:58
Unbe-fucking-lievable!

This country is a fucking joke sometimes. :evil:

Definitely get some decent legal advice, although I don’t think that the Police will use your previous offences it’s better to be safe than sorry.

Other than that sent a copy of a book heralding the Napoleonic wars to this stupid bint (wrapped in a St George’s cross flag) just to remind her who’s side she’s on. (That was for you Asher!)

We will all sign a “Sussex is great, leave him alone" petition so really there is nothing to worry about.

Walrus can’t lose one his older brothers just when he’s found him!

Seriously though mate, hope all works out well (I’m sure it will).
 :wink:


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, July 25, 2005, 08:38:36
what pisses me off about all this is the so called witness.
How can he/she say how fast you were going??
they weren't sat in your car with you and was looking at the speedo.

Unless you was going exsesive speeds (100 +) then obviously you could tell but if you was going between 55 - 65 then no one could tell the difference. This witness is a cunt.
Plain and simple to me. French cock pulled out on you so it's his fault.

Also tell the plice to fuck off cos they can't do shit about your previous. They were a long time ago and have nothing to do with what happend.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, July 25, 2005, 15:04:37
Hang on a minute ! Don't mean to put a dampner on things, but....

1. If Sussex was over the limit he is at fault (although I'm not saying he was)
2. If he was breaking the speed limit he is at fault (although I'm not saying he was)
3. If he was driving recklessly then he is at fault (although I'm not saying he was)

Noone here apart from Sussex knows the truth.

NMH


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, July 25, 2005, 16:36:53
One and three are irrelevent, if anyone was driving recklessly it was the bloke who pulled out in front of him.

As for number two, even if he was speeding it's not his fault somebody pulled out in front of him.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Sippo on Monday, July 25, 2005, 16:44:42
How can the witness prove you were speeding? Who's right is it to say that you were reckless driving?

No-one. They can't charge you because a witness has said you were dangerously driving. I would certainly get some legal advice. Past motoring offences (10 Years ago) should have no effect.

Keep yer head up fella, don't let it get to you (hard I know). All us guys and gals on here can do is give you advice.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Mister Lorenzo on Monday, July 25, 2005, 16:47:07
The points above aren't irrelevent.
If you pulled out of side road onto a main road that had a 40mph speed limit and you saw a car approaching you, I think it would be reasonable to assume he might be doing around 40mph and that you would have enough time to make the manouevre.
If someone just happened to be doing 80mph then obviously what happened to Sussex is going to be more likely.

However, having said all that ,sue the French bastard !!!


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, July 25, 2005, 16:51:18
The French bloke would have to be completely blind if he didn't notice Sussex was possibly speeding, judging speed is one of the first things you learn when you go out on the road.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Sippo on Monday, July 25, 2005, 16:53:35
Sussex, found this : http://www.mass.org.uk/index.asp. Maybe of some help.

Just like to say in the past this happened to me. There were no witness's tho. basically I was overtaking and the car i was passing decided to pull over. He caused a lot of side damage to my car. His insurance company tried to blame me saying I was speeding. I explained that if I was speeding or not, I was overtaking and your client pulled over without obviously looking in his mirrors. They couldn't prove anything and knew they were in the wrong. They paid out in the end after a long struggle.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Mister Lorenzo on Monday, July 25, 2005, 17:11:30
Sorry Sonic you are wrong there.
Where dores it teach you in the Highway code how to judge the speed of an approaching car.
You have to make a judgement yourself based on the speed limit of the road, conditions etc.
You would be a lot more careful crossing a dual-carriageway with a 70mph speed limit than you would a road that had a 30mph limit.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Sussex on Monday, July 25, 2005, 17:17:31
I was doing about 80 in a 60 limit, but it's long straight stretch of road, so he'd have seen me coming a quite a way off. I saw him start to pull out but thought he'd see me and stop. Erm, he didn't.

Drove the new wagon past there yesterday and the skid marks are gone (due to the heavy rain and it being a busy road I guess)

It's slightly uphill and this woman was coming the other way. She stopped when it happened to check we were ok etc. and gave us both her address for insurance purposes. I thought nothing more of it.

When I left, they were having a chat by his car, so that's probably where all this bollocks has come from  :roll:


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: red macca on Monday, July 25, 2005, 17:24:26
good luck m8.dont want to sound a cunt but im sure the

police will jump at the chance to bring up previous.

so get a solicitor asap without a doubt,one thing i allways

say when anyone goes to court is allways be prepared for

custodial and dont listen to people who allways say it will

be ok..otherwise its hard to take.

dont wanna sound like im trying to scare you but you gotta look at every angle...good luck though and chin up.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, July 25, 2005, 22:29:22
Quote from: "Mister Lorenzo"
Sorry Sonic you are wrong there.
Where dores it teach you in the Highway code how to judge the speed of an approaching car.
You have to make a judgement yourself based on the speed limit of the road, conditions etc.
You would be a lot more careful crossing a dual-carriageway with a 70mph speed limit than you would a road that had a 30mph limit.


It's not taught in the highway code, but one of the first things my instructor drummed into me was to judge how quickly traffic was coming towards you when you were sat at a junction, because if you were to pull out and cause a car to slow down at all, you would fail your test.


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: DMR on Monday, July 25, 2005, 22:31:59
if you get hit from behind then you are never at fault

the highway code dictates that you should be able to stop under any circumstances


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: walrus on Monday, July 25, 2005, 23:17:27
Quote from: "Mister Lorenzo"
Sorry Sonic you are wrong there.
Where dores it teach you in the Highway code how to judge the speed of an approaching car.
You have to make a judgement yourself based on the speed limit of the road, conditions etc.
You would be a lot more careful crossing a dual-carriageway with a 70mph speed limit than you would a road that had a 30mph limit.


One of the reasons you need to be 17 to drive is so that your judgement has developed.  If you drive by the highway code then you are incredibly naive - very few people stick rigidly to a speed limit, and people do speed excessively.  Like it or not.  If you pull out in front of someone you are in the wrong in my book.  

But having said that I always thought insurance companies blamed the person who went into the back of the other car, even if something like this has happened?  This is why it fucks me off so much when people do this to me, particularly when they then proceed to sit in the outside lane and drive line astern with the car to the left of them, who inevitably is hogging the middle lane leaving the inside lane free.   :x


Title: I'm a bit fooked
Post by: Mister Lorenzo on Tuesday, July 26, 2005, 07:59:48
I never said that you should drive by the Highway code if you read my second post and anyone who did is extemely naive and probably dangerous.
However, having driven now for the best part of 20 years and for the majority of that time driving 1,000 miles a week and still being alive, I think I might happen to know a little bit about driving.
What I said was one of the ways (not the only way) to judge the speed of an approaching car is what the speed limit is on that road.

If it's a 30mph limit and you see a car 500 metres away it would be fairly reasonable to assume you'd have enough time to cross the road, however if it's travelling at 70mph the car would be on you a lot faster than you might of thought.

I'm not condoning what happened I'm just saying that you can't always blame the person who pulls out of the junction.