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Title: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: News Monkey on Monday, March 12, 2012, 09:00:09
Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
     


Paul Benson's fifth goal in five games earns League Two leaders Swindon another win to send Paolo Di Canio's men eight points clear of Shrewsbury at the expense of fellow promotion chasers Cheltenham. (UK only)
     

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17333952
     


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, March 12, 2012, 11:32:16
3 great saves from their keeper by the looks of it.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: leefer on Monday, March 12, 2012, 11:33:52
I know...and they battered us as well :hmmm:


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, March 12, 2012, 11:37:15
Looking at the penalty, not that it matters, surely the foul starts outside the box so it should of been a freekick. Even though I think its Duffy doing to foul.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Benzel on Monday, March 12, 2012, 11:37:56
I've even been told we were outclassed due to the possession they had. Which equated to 1 more shot off target than we had. If shooting at the keeper counts towards that then yeah, fair play. Chortle.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, March 12, 2012, 11:41:39
I've even been told we were outclassed due to the possession they had. Which equated to 1 more shot off target than we had. If shooting at the keeper counts towards that then yeah, fair play. Chortle.

Posession was 60/40 in their favour so if that is the case, yeah they had the ball more than us, but we clearly did more with it as we won.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:01:23
Looking at the penalty, not that it matters, surely the foul starts outside the box so it should of been a freekick. Even though I think its Duffy doing to foul.
I've seen it 3 or 4 times now and no way was it a penalty. Duffy clearly backed into Risser and bulldozed him over.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: jimmy_onions on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:03:52
it was a pen, risser had his arms around him and pulled him down..


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: DV on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:24:32
it was a pen, risser had his arms around him and pulled him down..

outside the box, as Duffy backed into him.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: LJ9 on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:27:10
Who cares if it was penalty.

We won.

Move on.

End of thread.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:36:52
it was a pen, risser had his arms around him and pulled him down..

I've watched the highlights and stopped it frame by frame. Risser did not have his hands around him at any point. Duffy was more or less running backwards into Risser.

Even if I am mistaken, they both started going down OUTSIDE the box. If there was a foul committed it was a free kick and not a penalty.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: jimmy_onions on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:49:43
I hate to labour the point but, it wasnt a bear hug by any means, it was subtle, but risser did have his hands up at the guys waist level....


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:51:20
I hate to labour the point but, it wasnt a bear hug by any means, it was subtle, but risser did have his hands up at the guys waist level....

Even if that is the case, you do know that a foul must be committed INSIDE the box for it to be a penalty?


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Benzel on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:56:05
We all know how shite that ref was at the weekend, it's hardly a surprise he gave a pen. Anyway, that wasn't to be the last time Duffy bottled it when one on one with Big Wes.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: jimmy_onions on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:59:31
Even if that is the case, you do know that a foul must be committed INSIDE the box for it to be a penalty?

again, I hate to labour the point but dont appreciate snide comments like that....you may want to watch it again poppet, obviously the initial tussle it outisde the box, but the tug and fall are well inside, a metre or two by my reckoning...


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Paolo69 on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:09:54
The incident in question was right in front of me in the DRS. Duffy was annoyed as a town player had blocked him a little in the build up. He chased the free ball, looked up at Risser and bundled straight into him. Nothing Risser could do other than try to stand his ground. Never a pen in a miilion years.

Clever or cheating play from Duffy depending on which way you take it. Never a pen though.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:12:14
Snide comments? You might be a little too sensitive for this place sunshine.

I tell you what, you clearly seem to have spotted something the rest of us have missed so why not find the point of the 'tug' and stick it up here for us.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:14:25
Watch Duffy's legs and he is virtually sprinting backwards. At one point he seems to lean right into Risser with his Shoulder. He pushed Risser over.

I find it hard to be too critical of the Ref because he doesn't have the luxury of highlights before making his decision.


Title: Re: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:16:17
Wasn't a pen. But if rissers arms were up then it's further helped duffy cheat a weak ref .

The good thing is Wes saved it and that inspired us to score


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: jimmy_onions on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:32:50
I feel somewhat dirty posting this, but some people are just never wrong are they....

Risser is falling backwards but his arms are not down to break his fall, they are up at duffys waist...


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Paolo69 on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:35:23
I feel somewhat dirty posting this, but some people are just never wrong are they....

Risser is falling backwards but his arms are not down to break his fall, they are up at duffys waist...

Yep as he tries to stand his ground. They maybe up at his waist but they ain't tugging anything (Ooo er Mrs)


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:35:43
All I can see of Risser in that is his legs..... as he is seemingly going down from the foul by Duffy


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:37:56
but some people are just never wrong are they....


So what you're saying is that you're right and everybody else is wrong?


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: jimmy_onions on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:40:44
just going on what I saw, not reporting on a bit of fuzzy video...how many times have you seen a tackle from different angles which didnt look like pen from one, but was a dead cert from others?


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: corner on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:44:21
More inportantly shudnt duffy had been sent off for his lunge after wes had saved his pen?


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: corner on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:54:51
just going on what I saw, not reporting on a bit of fuzzy video...how many times have you seen a tackle from different angles which didnt look like pen from one, but was a dead cert from others?
i think it looks more of a pen on vid, than i did frm my seat in arkells.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:58:15
More inportantly shudnt duffy had been sent off for his lunge after wes had saved his pen?

Didn't spot what he did at the time, that lunge looks awful on the highlights and he could easily have walked.

I've looked at the pen again, difficult to tell from that angle where Rissers left arm is. I still haven't seen anything that changes my mind that Duffy turned around headed backwards and fell over. But J O may well have been in the Town End with the perfect view, who really cares (about the pen) now anyway.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Paolo69 on Monday, March 12, 2012, 13:59:38
just going on what I saw, not reporting on a bit of fuzzy video...how many times have you seen a tackle from different angles which didnt look like pen from one, but was a dead cert from others?

Um i was about half way back in the block nearest the townend. Sorry to support Flash (and his fuzzy vid) but there's no way you'll convince me it was a pen. The way Duffy crashed into Risser the only thing he could have done to avoid contact was to move out of the way, which obviously wouldn't exactly have been great defending.

Duffy could easily have walked for his foul with a different ref.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, March 12, 2012, 18:25:13
More inportantly shudnt duffy had been sent off for his lunge after wes had saved his pen?

Yes...absolutely.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: STFC_Manc on Monday, March 12, 2012, 18:47:45
Never a pen but I can understand why it was given with just one look at it, so can't blame the ref too much.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Langers on Monday, March 12, 2012, 19:09:03
Never a pen but I can understand why it was given with just one look at it, so can't blame the ref too much.

Agree, when I saw it live, I thought it was stone wall but when I watched the highlights it was never a pen.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, March 12, 2012, 19:13:45
I never thought it was a pen live...and more so when watching the highlights.

Duffy should've been sent off. The ref got the yellow card out quick to stop any Swindon player influencing his decision to turn it into a red.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, March 12, 2012, 19:18:07
Meh...still looks like a pen to me...not that it matters or ever did matter seeing as they didn't score.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, March 12, 2012, 22:04:40
My mate and me were sat level with the penalty spot and he said it was a stonewall and I said it wasn't a pen. Meh, we won.


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: Gnasher on Monday, March 12, 2012, 22:11:13
I think we can all agree that Duffy was clever, but you can see why it was given (even if it wasn't one!). Case closed  :)


Title: Re: BBC News: Highlights - Swindon 1-0 Cheltenham
Post by: suttonred on Monday, March 12, 2012, 22:17:20
Evens out, the one before with Mohammed?? looked a stonewall to me.