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Title: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: News Monkey on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 10:00:25
The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
           



  Having a good relationship with my chairman is crucial. It is not as simple as just going out for a dinner and discussing the team and then that is it.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9485010.The_Paolo_Di_Canio_Column__I_have_the_perfect_chairman/?ref=rss
           


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Barry Scott on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 10:41:54
I want Paolo's babies. He's got his head screwed on right has this man.

I like what he says about McCormack, how he took him to one side (after being sweary and loud "in a way that does not help the teammates") and told him to calm down and focus on helping those around him, not shouting them down. He said that from that moment on, he then took responsibility and played as a leader. "He helps and never blames the others."

And who's this?:

Quote from: Paolo
Another player who is struggling in League One now – he has scored only two goals - said ‘no I don’t want to play in League Two’.

Now, this man prays to come here but he is not for us anymore. He didn’t want to join us and help us and now he is struggling, but we still won’t give him another opportunity with us because even though his side are League One we feel we are better than them now.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 10:48:48
Paolo is fucking ace and I do love him.

As for the player, a league one player with 2 goals to his name? theres a lot of those out there!

I am also pleased he wont stand for any arrogance from potential signings.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 10:52:24
I have a feeling it may have been David Mooney....or Cody mcDonald (except hes a division higher than L1)


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 10:53:59
Think it's bloody great how the board are investing yet balancing the books. But some fans of others teams are a bit thick.

I've given up with Torquay fans:

"You don't need to spend to get out of this league"....... So why the fuck are you still here, numbnuts?

"Profits are misleading because you sold players"...... That's the entire point, idiot.

Fuck 'em. Lingy seems to be doing a good job over there. He'll be offski next season to somewhere with a tad mroe ambition. Our chairman and board are the dogs bollocks. How many clubs on the country remain ambitious without overspending?


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:02:18
Looking at the teams who've got promoted out of this division in recent years, the claim that you don't need to spend is a more than valid one.

I do fear what might happen financially if we don't go up this season. Lets hope it doesn't come to that.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:02:40
Should also add that's a cracking article too


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:07:56
Looking at the teams who've got promoted out of this division in recent years, the claim that you don't need to spend is a more than valid one.

I do fear what might happen financially if we don't go up this season. Lets hope it doesn't come to that.

It is not a criticism that can be used by a club that can't get out of the league themselves. And of those that do invest, how many fail to get promotion?

For many teams in L2, reaching the playoffs would be considered a success. For us, anything but promotion would be an absolute failure. We cannot afford not to invest to get out of this league.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:21:54
For many teams in L2, reaching the playoffs would be considered a success. For us, anything but promotion would be an absolute failure. We cannot afford not to invest to get out of this league.

I was thinking the same thing a few days ago when the Constable bid was still live.  The game has changed for Paolo now.  Given that he's apparently learned from his early season naievity/mistakes, and also given the extent to which he has been backed by the board (not sure I can ever remember a Manager being backed as solidly by a Chairman as PDC is now), anything other than top 3 for us now would be a failure.  I really hope we don't have to confront the reality of a situation in which we miss one of those spots...could be tricky.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:23:48
For example: (From a Torquay fan)

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Struggling? I dont know what you call 3 and abit seasons. Which last season was a play off final. Just outside te playoffs on goal difference atm. To me thats not struggling. Infact out club dont have the expectation of going up wich is nice.

They consider failing to get promoted for the last 3 seasons as a success...... We are not Torquay.

If we don't get promoted this season, we could be here for a long time.

Paolo's right, Jezza is a star.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:27:14
Jeez these Torquay fans are a bitter lot, I had a lot of respect for them until I went having a read about Bodin on their forum, admittedly Mr Flashheart has done his best to wind them up a little but thats a given, they are biting and biting massively.

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I don't doubt that they (Swindon) have a lot more resources than most (all?) sides that this level, but the manner they are spending it is frivolous and wasteful. You can get out of this division spending a lot less than £500k on transfer fees alone, and there's no way a L2 side needs 6 better strikers than Billy Bodin. If a player like Bodin comes through your own youth setup with the talent he's got then he should definitely be in your plans, not reliant on whether or not the manager can bring in 6 better players and if he can offload Billy. Di Canio doesn't care for the club's long term future, he just wants as much money as possible in his budget so he can buy promotion, but someone at the club should be controlling the money going out. No club in L2 needs SIX strikers ahead of Bodin in their squad, so to let the youth striker go just to spend big money on a replacement is pointless and a waste of £150K up front and then probably £2k every week for the next few years.
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These clubs will soon learn, it came to Plymouth, it's come to innumerate clubs in the past, it's even come to Premier League Portsmouth. They will spend like there is no tomorrow and end up hovering over the precipice. To justify that sort of money, they need to be in the Championship (and doing well there too) within three years and that is VERY unlikely to happen. Even if it does, they'll get a reputation as a rich club willing to pay big money and bigger wages and have a book of 30 players. Unless they go on to be a real force in the Championship for a number of years, it will all come crashing down around them.
Don't believe me? Think clubs reach 'critical mass' where they are simply too big to go under? I refer you to our 'friends' in green not 40 miles distant.

The post above is just about as spot on as any post gets. Swindon do not need 7 strikers. Manchester United don't even need 7 strikers. If you have seven of every position, you need a minimum of (obviously) 77 players. Each on an average of £500/week (a low estimate, I'll venture), that's £38,500/week in player wages alone. You're talking over £100,000/week to run the club. That's £5,200,000/year in net profit required just to break even!

Enjoy it while it lasts Swindon, because 6 or 7 years from now, you'll be battling Plymouth and Crawley, and all the other clubs presently being run by idiots, for promotion from the Blue Square South.*

Matt.

*Meanwhile, 'little' Torquay United will be happily plodding along, probably somewhere in the middle of L1, three divisions above these 'giants' of the game and making a small, but neat, profit each year.
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Spending 6 figures on Alan Connell was not a wise investment, you certainly won't be getting a return on that.
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If Swindon don't get promoted this year it will be ridiculous with the number of signings they've made - big money signings too. Connell was circa £150k, Constable is going to be that again at least, Rooney is also 6 figures, and with the others it must be over half a million. To have a cracking youngster like Billy, who's future at the club is entirely out of his own hands and controlled by how many big money strikers are brought in ahead of him, is a crazy (and unhealthy) way for a L2 side to operate.
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He tried to get Constable off Oxford (play-off contenders)
He has got Rooney off Gills (play-off contenders)
He won't let us have Bodin (play-off contenders)

My guess would be that Di Canio will go after a Shrewsbury player next or, if he sets his sights a bit higher, one from either Southend or Cheltenham.

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Connell never is or was worth the money you paid for him. Constable himself is a pretty limited footballer as well. If you are offering 150K I'm suprised Oxford won't rip both your arms off to grab it. Ask yourself why Constable has spent most of his career at League 2 and below?


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:29:37
Oh and one absolute cracker.....
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I really don't think anyone will be any the wiser as to whether PDC is a good Manager or not as quite simply he will have chucked so much money at it that he will simply be tagged as having "bought his way out of the League". At the moment he seems hell bent on trying to buy out the best players from the best teams in this division thereby not only strengthening his own teams chances but also weakening others.

As for the man himself, based on his performance at Plainmoor on Boxing Day, you really do question his coaching/manangement abilities ... given that, as far as I could see, he spent half the game with his back turned on the game, ranting at the subs/coaches/whoever on the bench - quite surreal and not like anything I have ever seen from an opposing Manager!


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:32:41
At least we don't have to put up with supporting Torquay fucking United. 


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:33:29
My intention was not to wind them up to be honest. I first popped in to see how Billy was getting on.

They don't quite get it. They have failed to get promoted for 3 consecutive seasons. That might be a success to them, but we are not them.

They should rephrase it to: "You don't have to spend money in this league, if you are willing to take the risk of not being promoted"


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:36:27
They consider it as a success to be where they are because they are a smaller club than us and 50% of clubs in this division.

We have bigger aims and hopes for the future than they obviously have.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:40:25
I like how every other team seems absolutely convinced that we're financially unsustainable because we've spent a few pennies here and there.

Torquay have an average attendance of 2720

We have an average attendance of 7786, have just sold out a home tie against Wigan and are in the FA Cup 4th round, and are on the way to Wembley in the JPT.

It's hardly a cunting surprise we might have more money to spend than them is it?



Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:41:48
Most L2 forums are the same. Even Crawley fans think we're buying our way out of this league!


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:45:04
Exactly.  There difference is that Torquay are playing at their natural level, while we are playing below ours.  And there's nothing to be proud of about that for us.  Based on attendances/resources etc. we should, in theory, be holding our own in League 1 and challenging for promotion to the Championship.  But we're not.  We're underachieving at the moment.

We're in the basement division, on merit, and trying our best to get out of it.  In order to do that, we're spending more than most in the division because we can spend more than most in the division.  That isn't dick waving; it's economic reality.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:49:11
I don't really give a fuck what the other clubs think. I think we'll be just fine, get promoted and have a team to finish half way next season - without a great deal of further investment. I'm quite happy to let other clubs take pot shots at us while we just sail on and wave goodbye to them.  


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 11:51:47
Most L2 forums are the same. Even Crawley fans think we're buying our way out of this league!

Now thats the epitome of irony!


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: DV on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:19:11
we're swindon and we do what we want!

Mr. Wray has been excellent so far. Everything he has done has been spot on and with each day he shows up Fitton run as chairman more and more.

Anything less than Champions is failure.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: london_red on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:31:01
Great article, good to know our chairman and manager have such a good relationship. A pleasant and unusual feeling to know the club is in great hands in the boardroom and the dugout.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:38:46
Understand some of the points being made by Torquay fans - if we were to keep spending like we are and stay in League Two then we'll be in trouble in a few years time.

But realistically, we're not going to keep spending these sums of money int he future, as the plan has been to build a side capable of challenging not only in this league but in the league above. Our results in cup competitions suggest we've done this quite well.

I don't think fans of Torquay, Crawley etc are being bitter, they just don't see how well Paolo manages the team and how much progress the club is making, as they only see us once/twice per season.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: tans on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:40:09


Anything less than Champions is failure.


So if we finished 2nd that would be a failure??

Christ almighty.

As long as we go up, i couldnt give a fuck how, be it playoffs or automatic


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:41:25
Mr. Wray has been excellent so far. Everything he has done has been spot on and with each day he shows up Fitton run as chairman more and more

I think that's slightly unfair. Fitton sorted out the immense mess that he inherited from the greek fuck, and worked hard to restore the clubs credibility. I think it is due to Fittons hard work Wray can do what he can.

Secondly, Fitton undoubtedly gave Wilson his support. We went to Wembley under his watch. At that point in time everything was great.

Fitton obviously made mistakes (Malpas, Greer, Hart - though presumably with boardroom support), and Wray seems somehow more of a 'football' man, but I think its a bit unfair to compare the two.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:43:06
If we finish rock bottom but all teams above are disqualified from promotion meaning we get to go up, the season would have been a resounding success.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:46:13
Andrew Fitton made a few mistakes, but he was the right man at the right time in 2007 when the club's back office needed clearing out and rebuilding.  He did that quickly and effectively.  On the field of play, he did less well...but you can't have it all.  He's moved on and so have we.  Sadly, he left the club in a lower division to when he took over, but he also left it in much better shape in so many ways.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:46:23
So if we finished 2nd that would be a failure??

Christ almighty.

As long as we go up, i couldnt give a fuck how, be it playoffs or automatic
Totally agree. PdC made mistakes early on and we lost ground, we're now making it up. I want us to be champions but the main thing is to go up and then compete next season.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: tans on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:48:24
Totally agree. PdC made mistakes early on and we lost ground, we're now making it up. I want us to be champions but the main thing is to go up and then compete next season.

Exactamundo mr shorts


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: jonah on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:49:53
I've noticed an undercurrent of opinion on TEF that "expects" us to be promoted this year.

I am a natural pessimistic - and I don't expect promotion (I bloody well hope for it), I just can't help thinking that come May and if we haven't made it - how much shit we are going to get from the likes of Torquay, poxo and the rest....

j


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:58:51
I've noticed an undercurrent of opinion on TEF that "expects" us to be promoted this year.

I am a natural pessimistic - and I don't expect promotion (I bloody well hope for it), I just can't help thinking that come May and if we haven't made it - how much shit we are going to get from the likes of Torquay, poxo and the rest....

j

You could always turn off your computer.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 12:59:12
I don't see anybody expecting it, except maybe DV. We have to get the points just like every other team in this league.

That does not change the fact that promotion is the minimum requirement for a successful season. Anything less will be a failure.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 13:05:05
I don't see anybody expecting it, except maybe DV. We have to get the points just like every other team in this league.

That does not change the fact that promotion is the minimum requirement for a successful season. Anything less will be a failure.

Seconded.  For the record, I don't expect promotion either.  If I had to put money on our most likely finish right now, I'd probably go for 4th on the basis that I think we'll finish well but none of the top three are dropping enough points at the moment.  That said, 4th would disappoint me.  We'd be in the play offs...which are a complete lottery.  I don't want to put myself through that again, especially when there's a 75% chance that it won't end well.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: axs on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 13:05:34
Love the maths of the post jj quoted, 7 strikers so we need 77 players? Pretty sure we have two positions for strikers meaning all of his maths needs to be halved.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 13:11:30
Love the maths of the post jj quoted, 7 strikers so we need 77 players? Pretty sure we have two positions for strikers meaning all of his maths needs to be halved.
I thought the same. Apparantly that passes for logic in some parts...


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: jonah on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 13:12:11
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You could always turn off your computer.

..... and go crying to my mummy..... :girlgiggle:

Thanks -but I'm not that sensitive yet.

 I do worry a little that it appears that "we" or a significant number of our fans are "expecting" promotion - and we are gaining a bit of a WACCOE reputation! We are clearly ambitious and quite rightly so - afterall we are Swindon and we do what we like, but fuck me it'll be embarassing if we fail.

j


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: jonah on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 13:13:51
I agree that failure to get promotion this year would be counted as failure......
j


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: axs on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 13:17:09


 I do worry a little that it appears that "we" or a significant number of our fans are "expecting" promotion - and we are gaining a bit of a WACCOE reputation! We are clearly ambitious and quite rightly so - afterall we are Swindon and we do what we like, but fuck me it'll be embarassing if we fail.

 There is a fine line between expecting promotion and thinking you deserve it no matter what.


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: tans on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 13:18:38
Paolo is fucking ace and I do love him.

As for the player, a league one player with 2 goals to his name? theres a lot of those out there!

I am also pleased he wont stand for any arrogance from potential signings.

Reckon its clinton morrison


Title: Re: Adver News: The Paolo Di Canio Column: I have the perfect chairman
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, January 21, 2012, 13:30:05
There is a fine line between expecting promotion and thinking you deserve it no matter what.

This. Most Town fans would say we're too big for this division and that a club of our size should get promoted. Leeds crossed the line by saying that they deserved to win the league because they were too big, and that they shouldn't have been there in the first place. We all know we eserve to be here, and we know it's not easy to get back up to League One.