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8 game ban and a 40K fine.

Do the crime do the time I suppose. Can't remember a ban like this though, well Cantona and PDC but these were for very different reasons. Hopefully it'll have the desired effect.

That's a massive ban, didn't expect that. Totally deserved though.

Hopefully John Terry gets the same punishment, or more

Pair of cunts

John Terry's ban will be interesting, given its beyond doubt he used racist language towards Anton Ferdinand.

edit: Tans beat me to it.

bet the fa bottle it

Apparently he came clean, so I bet he gets it reduced via appeal. Probably end up with 4 or 5 games ban.

I bloody hope they throw the book at Terry. Prize cunt.

I'm not sure the this ban is fully deserved here. Suarez used a word which is so socially accepted in Uruguay that it's used as players nicknames in the press over there. And although is sounds very much like a word you wouldn't use over here, it's not the same and doesn't have the same history associated with it.

I'm all for stitching up the scousers chances of success but the length of this ban for the 'crime' committed is very much OTT.

Agree re: Terry be interesting to see how they punish him now the bar has been set.

Terry should now have no chance of avoiding similar punishment. Which will probably see him lose the England captaincy again.

I heard it was a derivative of negro...negrita. I suppose it's not insulting to call someone black, but if you call them blacky 10 times over the course of a match, it could be interpreted as racially insulting.

To be fair, anything said 10 times is aimed to insult.

He denies saying it 10 times, just once. And Negro/Negrita in Spanish is not the same as the derogatory term used here. Although that would depend on context I suppose.

Presumably the ban was made deliberately long in the anticipation it will be reduced on an appeal - so 4 or 5 games is what they intended all along. Interesting what they do with Terry now...

On the subject of racism, someone from Burton said Kevin Amankwaah and Billy Kees had a real flair up on Saturday and had to be pulled apart after Kee said something racial to Abu Agogo of Daggenham after his reckless challenge and sending off.
Sounds like Kevin has strong feelings on racism whatever side it comes from.

Is there any idea on when Terry's punishment (Or non punishment) will come about?

writing an essay on how shite a role model he is...

What's the hold up in Terry's case, seems he was accused weeks before Suarez.

Hes english ;)

No hiding for The FA on this now with Terry!...although as Tans has said, they'll probs bottle it!

Suppose your right Tans, Ferdinand is probably English but not an England captain !

Terrys case is a police investigation now that is why.

My main worry with this Suarez case ist hat they seem to have come to this conclusion based on Evras account which is a dangerous thing to do imo

I thought Suarez had admitted saying it??

Good point DRS.

Evra has even said he didnt think Suarez was a racist

To be fair after what Amankwaah said about Neil Harris I don't really think he has any right on judging what comes out of the mouth of others. Taking the piss out of someone's life threatening illness is worse than racially abusing someone, I'd say.  Not that there's a ranking of abusive topics, that I'm aware of.

He admitted to saying Negrito

Here is Hernandez also saying the same thing


(Chicharito" Hernandez yesterday highlights the goal scored by another young man as Omar Esparza, in a win over Tigers: "I liked the goal of the Negrito (Omar Esparza), I think it's a sign that Chivas youth, we are ready to respond in big games such as playoffs. for my part I will continue working with humility to earn a chance.)

Oh right, fair enough.

you shouldn't grass up Hernandez like that. You'll get him into trouble for being racist.

most importantly, when does the ban kick in - dream team transfer window closes friday!

After any appeals.

he's got 14 days to make one..

If he doesn't appeal his first game back will be against, yes, you've guessed it, Manchester United.

Just because a word is acceptable in one country, it doesn't mean it will be in another. Plus the context is widely different, the above is complimentary and I very much doubt that was the case with Suarez.

What is Terry supposed to have said / done? From what I read it appeared he admitted saying it but is claiming he used it in a statement denying he had said it, e.g. "no I didn't call you a ****** ***** ****". Is that right?

Not saying it is right Jonny just saying that Negrito isn't the insult people are making it out to be.My main point is that the FA have gone with evras version of events even though when he first said it he said you could see him being called a ni**er at least 10 times on camera,he wasn't seen once saying it.

It seems from the statement that he has been banned for using offensive language (The word Negrito) 

Maybe the FA need to come clean and say that Suarez was actually innocent of the offence but they banned him for being a complete and utter cunt - Terry could get life.

There are uses of the n word that aren't an insult (admittedly they involve being black and living in Compton) but that would be a pretty weak argument if you used the word here. Sure he might not have meant it the way it has been received but I don't think he should get any credit for stupidity, using a word derived from an offensive word is risky at best.

I just read up on Terry and watched the video for the first time. I'd say he's fucked.

I understand the point about words having different connotations in different languages and I'm sure "negrito" needn't be derogatory in latin america - however, if true, why did Suarez feel compelled to go on and use the word ten times - was he trying to express affection for Evrito?

Ridiculous ban. He only said what everyone else thinks anyway.

Which is?

I dunno not really followed the story an certainly not read 3 pages of what is probably moral outrage

That's my point Redrag.Evra said it can be seen on camera ten times,it wasn't seen once.

What i find strange in this is that this is basically how it has gone

Evra claims he was called a ni**er ten times and can be seen on camera
Suarez denies this
FA can't find the video evidence and Evra can't provide any
FA charge Suarez
Suarez admits using Negrito once but not in the racist way
Suarez banned

Don't get me wrong the word imo is equally as offensive i just find it amazing how a player can be banned based oo another players accusation when the player himself can't provide the evidence that he has told the worldwide media is available.

Prize prick.....collect your award.


Whatever he said and whatever he thinks he gets paid big bucks for being a pro....grow up and play football....and the same goes for Terry.
If they have said it then he is lucky its only 8 matches....at least he has the bottle to admit it,unlike the England captain alas.
No sympathy for Suarez because he is the biggest cheat in the Premiership.

Nice to see Liverpool coming out and begging for sympathy yet again as usual

Justice for the racists

Wonder how they decided on the 40k fine ? If the FA are going to make that the set fee for every case I can't see many 1st or 2nd division players/clubs being able to afford that sort of money. I know that's the idea to try and cut rasism out but how can the fine vary for let's be honest the same offence. Is a league two player being racist going to be less serious than anyone else ?

Made me laugh - Di Canio got a 10 game ban for pushing a ref over and Saurez will get his ban halved to 4 games for calling Evra a n*****.

FA need to sort their priorities out

Yup, a bit dangerous if that is how it has gone. I'd assumed that they had hard facts rather than one case of a "Negrito"

that said, I did smile at LFC's "he can be recist, some of his friends/family are black" defence

Then politely accept my offer to shut the fuck up.  "Look at me, I'm DMR, I'm edgy because I say things that annoy people and this validates me".  Essentially judging by your post you agree that Patrice Evra deserves to be abused because of the colour of his skin.  Well done you.  

The two examples you cite are about 12 years apart.  Not really a fair comparison.

Couldnt have put it better myself and thankyou for the kind words

Clearly this is what is known as "fishing", but even if taken in that context, you are clearly a horrible human being.  You need to realise that what you put on here, even if you think it separates you from your normal self, is a reflection on you.  Basically, you seem to be proud to be a racist.  Well done. 

It's not the 1st time Suarez has had a lengthy ban, he got 7 weeks for biting an opponent whilst playing in a Dutch league.
Perhaps he will never be able to control himself and will only continue to bring shame on the teams he plays for.
Great footballer but shit attitude to others.

Impressive use of the word 'clearly' twice in one outrage by the way. Always a sign of true indignation.

"Ooh - I got a rise out of someone on a forum by supporting racism - aren't I big and clever.   I can also get really drunk and do stupid things - this really impresses my online fans.  I really am brilliant."

You really are a twat.

Seems to be a bit of a miss understanding. Suarez has used a word which is not derogatory which sounds vaguely like another word which is, Evra misunderstands it and lies to say he said the actual derogatory word ten times and Suarez gets the book thrown at him.  

Terry says the actual word in a real nasty and spiteful manner, is caught on camera like a cunt and gets nothing(yet). If that's not double standards then I don't know what is.

I sincerely hope the 3 'really's was ironic but I very much doubt it. You're not black are you?

I count 4...

FA can't do anything with Terry yet as it is under a police investigation

Wonder why Suarez isn't being investigated by the old bill then, what's the difference?

No they weren't ironic.  No I'm not black.  I just think you must be a hateful, awful human being.  Nighty night.

Was 2 things mate

1)A member of the public complained about Terrys comment to the police
2)No video evidence of Suarez

Can't see how the FA can do Suarez without evidence on that basis. He probably said it but innocent until proven guilty and all that. Strange how the FA can dictate the law as they see fit, confirming Suarez as a racist is quite a big statement to make.

I certainly am hate filled but I can assure you said hatred and contempt is not confined to anyone of any race, creed, religion or colour. Mainly it is reserved for spackers like your good self x

Just to lighten the mood a little. An Xmas song for Suarez.

He bites them when he's angry.......
He dives to cheat and win........
He doesn't like Ghanaians........
And Now his career is in the bin........

Suarez.......... isn't coming to town
Suarez...........isn't coming to town
Sua-rez isn't coming........to town.

The best translation I could find says the word is a polite way of saying neg**. Are we allowed to post neg** without the **?

The article on the BBC website has a quote claiming that in South America the word is only acceptable if used in a friendly manner. If used in a hostile manner it is viewed as offensive.

It also translates to little black guy in uraguay.Not saying it is right at all just find the way they have got to the decision strange.

What I do find strange is whilst listening to some of the music my sons play is how often racial lyrics are used in the gangster style rap songs that anyone else would get slated for using. Time and time again I have heard black friends of mine being racial abused by people they know but say it doesn't matter as they are mates.

The only racists in the Suarez-Evra drama are the FA. Do not agree with the ban!
 
Regardless of what he said, if 2 grown up men can sort this sort of shit out between themselves, there is no hope for anyone!

I see Sepp Blatter's finally joined the TEF!

Does sound like this is being blown out of proportion...

If the facts are that it's Evra's word against Suarez, and Suarez admits saying something once that is not offensive where he comes from - then it stinks as being a fucking ridiculous punishment !

Surely some sort of "education" for Suarez as to what is acceptable over here and what isn't would be far more worthwhile....

And to be honest some of the puritans on here making out like it's the crime of the century should think a bit more.....

Even Evra said he doesn't think Suarez is a racist !

If it's 8 games for Negrito, Chelsea need to be looking for a new centre back in January.

Consistency has to be the key here, it only becomes a ludicrous punishment if future cases (i.e Terry) get fluffed.

It's not like they've banned him without trial!  Seems to me that they've taken a great deal of time to weigh up the evidence but once he admitted saying a version of the "n" word he was fucked.

So 8 games for a word beginning with "n" that isn't the bad word beginning with "n" ?!?

3 games for breaking someone's leg in a mis-timed tackle, maybe extended to 5 at a push if there is an outcry......

I don't really know enough about the term Negrito or Negro to really have an opinion on it but I don't think we can judge Suarez and condemn him as a racist for using a racist term. Same with John Terry, if Terry is found guilty, he will be found guilty of using a racist word but that doesn't actually mean he's inherently racist. There is a difference between the two in my opinion.

Biggest winner here could be Villas-Boas. His pressing game with a high line can't work with such a one-paced unit anchoring the defence. If I were Chelsea, I'd be standing down my legal team, pressing for a quick decision and taking a chunky ban. Buy someone for 'cover' in Jan and with the right run of results Terry never gets back into the team and goes to PSG or the US in the summer.

Now i'm not JT's biggest fan but he is pretty much the only bloke in the Chelsea defence who can "defend". Have you not seen how bad David Luis has been this season.....

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Fair enough but over the course of the season so far and his career. You obviously feel alot of top manager's have "got it wrong" in not only picking him but making him captain.

John Terry is the most overrated centre half to ever grace an England shirt, and a complete scumbag to boot.

Gary Lewin should've done the world a favour and let the cunt choke.

Scumbag agreed. Overrated by who? Most people seem to think he's shit it seems.

Here here... there was an element of truth in what StepLadder said.  Completely blown out of proportion.

Anyone noticed his dip in form since Carvalho left?

I've not said anything of the sort.

I do think Terry (like Lampard) is trading on past glories this season and AVB won't be able to move the Chelsea team on (playing with pace and movement) until he's moved these two out. Terry might continue to be good somewhere else, but sometimes players and clubs need to move on.

And he's a fat slow racist, but that wasn't the point I was making.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16284813


Terry charged, going to court.

Good

Fair enough, sorry for trying to puts words in your mouth.

I can understand why people dislike Terry and he does little to help change people's opinions either, but to say Chelsea shouldn't back him is ridiculous though, if only for all the years service he has given them.

Presumably AVB is allowed to drop him and hasn't, so perhaps doesn't share your opinion just yet.

Slow = Yeah probably
Fat = He's a pro footballer so doubtful
Racist = Jury's out, well it will be....

He has definitely slowed up over the past couple of seasons I think - it shows how slow he is when he gets turned by strikers too often.

Whether he is a racist or not - he said racist things to Ferdinand which (i believe) are pretty understandable from the video footage.

This is where it is completely different to Suarez.  Terry knows better - simple as that.  He should have the book thrown at him !!

I hope they successfully appeal Suarez's 8 game ban.  3 games is more than enough (same punishment as violent conduct) although the Scousers might well argue that is too harsh given its his word against Evra's and he freely admitted to saying one word which is perfectly acceptable where he comes from!!

Think it was a bit harsh doing Suarez for racial abuse, seems foul and abusive language would have been more suitable.

It appears the FA did take in to account the language and cultural differences, which makes you wonder what they will do with Terry who it appears doesn't have any real defence for his language. Can see him getting a far longer ban, especially if he's found guilty in court.

But where does it stop ? 

I was always told "sticks and stones will break your bones but words will never hurt you" when I was a kid ?!?

Makes me laugh - Jim Goodwin from St Mirren received a 2 match ban today for punching an opponent in the stomach - clearly caught on camera

Suarez gets an 8 match ban for using a bad word towards an opponent

Just strikes me as bollocks to be honest.....

having lived in latin america for a number of years negrita is definately not an offensive term.

The FA could also be making a point to Sepp by saying the premier league will not stand for any form of racism.

Whatever Suarez said was obviously meant in a derogatory-offensive manner.Things get said during games so who gives a shit? People threaten to kill,break their legs, fuck their wife etc all the time.

Given he almost had a seizure at my previous nonsense, one would assume Baggins will be on the verge of a pulmonary embolism when he reads all this stuff backing Suarez.

I think Bilbo will not be a happy little Hobbit !!

I think that Suarez is guilty of being a horrible little cunt, and should be banned for 20 games.

He got off lightly

It's not proper indignation until Baggins flounces off and deletes his account...

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle .....ummm...never mind

Recist abuse ? Never heard of that before but sound terrible

Ironic, your grammar sounds terrible when you read that back.

and wrongly call people Steven.

Interesting.....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4040822/Patrice-Evra-in-N-word-video-outburst.html

There is such a thing as context though...

Agree.  Context is everything.  Regardless of whether Suarez should have been found guilty or not (and I don't really know enough to have a view on that), I don't see how you can draw a link between the recent Suarez/Evra case and the youtube clip...which is what the Sun is clearly trying to do.

On the other hand...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/8994525/Diane-Abbott-apologises-for-divide-and-rule-Twitter-comments.html

The investigation was pretty comprehensive and the report goes in to some detail (Google for "suarez report"). Think the fact that Liverpool and Suarez decided against appealing once they'd read it says a lot and from reading bits and pieces and the conclusion it seems a fair result.

Bit surprised at the way Liverpool have handled it as they haven't come out of it looking good.

http://newsthump.com/2012/01/04/scouse-edl-members-forced-to-distance-themselves-from-liverpool-fc/

hahaha decent