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Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: walrus on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 16:43:28
13.7 million seems a pittance for a player who is to be considered his prime.  People seem to put the fee down on account of his age, but was Zidane not 30/31 when he enjoyed his world-record fee to Real Madrid for 40-odd million?  He will be a major loss to Arsenal, and I'm beginning to seriously doubt whether they will be up to challenging Chelsea.  Their poor performances in the Champions League make Arsenal a less attractive prospect to many European players, and this Hleb they've signed does not, in my opinion, compare to Vieira despite the similarities in place.

Vieira has stated he was looking for a new challenge - I think he has been the one for setting the wheels rolling for this transfer, not Arsenal.  Anyone else think it's a bit odd?


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Johno on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 16:45:06
its weird, cause im not particulary shocked, but to arsenal fans its a huge blow!


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 16:48:49
I think Viera has become a fading force.....don't think Arsenal will be too bothered to have cashed in.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 16:57:09
I don't really think it's that much of blow. Arsenal can easily cope without him and for me he hasn't recently been quite as good as he used to be.

Hleb is supposed to be good and i think they are right to cash in on him now. It was clear, i think, that arsenal were happy to sell him and i don't really believe they mind that much.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 17:04:30
Apparently it's the Arsenal who have been touting him about.

Have to agree with Reg he looks to be a fading force having watched him on the box in a couple of the Champions League games last season he was worse than Hewlett.  Every pass straight to the opposition and lost every ball for quite long periods.

At 29 I think it will be a good move to cash in now he'll be 30 at the end of next season and the fee will only diminish.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 17:12:19
I suspect Viera knows this himself, and so a move suits him as it may recharge his batteries, so a good move for all concerned.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Nils on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 17:37:07
They have good young players like Fabregas anyway and they need the money considering they are payin for a new stadium


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: hansgruber on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 17:47:02
Funds to buy Shaun Wright-Phillips as well perhaps? Fabregas is a ready-made replacement for Vieira, and it looks like Pires is off to Galatasaray as well.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Whits on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 17:49:31
i'm quite happy to watch that gobby shite get out of this country  :D


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: DMR on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 19:05:25
Vieira's been shight for ages, who cares


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Spud on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 19:53:05
He was poor last season and thats why Arsenal cashed in on him whilst they could.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Whits on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 19:55:09
100 bookings + 10 sending offs in 9 years, says it all. dirty bastard :nod:


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Spud on Friday, July 15, 2005, 04:49:41
Quote from: "Whits"
100 bookings + 10 sending offs in 9 years, says it all. dirty bastard :nod:


He was still 50 bookings and 10 Red cards behind Gurney though. :roll:


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: le god cuervo on Friday, July 15, 2005, 08:58:47
i'm sure wegner has his eye on someone else to replace him. i'm surprised he didnt try & get steven appiah in a swop deal


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Johno on Friday, July 15, 2005, 09:00:39
Jenas has been linked....


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Sippo on Friday, July 15, 2005, 09:15:19
Quote from: "Johno"
Jenas has been linked....


But souness wants campbell in return!!


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Spud on Friday, July 15, 2005, 14:08:02
Quote from: "le god cuervo"
i'm sure wegner has his eye on someone else to replace him


I heard that he was after Michale Essiens midfiled partner at Lyon which is Mo Diarra who had a good season in both domestic and European competition.

As for Souness is this bloke for real!?, he wants £20 million for Jenas!  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: CARTMAN on Friday, July 15, 2005, 14:22:45
viera said (after the transfer) he was getting stale at arsenal.......apppears to be the popular excuse for leaving a club this year  ( i swear i've heard it used a couple of times already, parkin, igoe.......)


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Spud on Friday, July 15, 2005, 14:26:05
Quote from: "CARTMAN"
viera said (after the transfer) he was getting stale at arsenal.......apppears to be the popular excuse for leaving a club this year  ( i swear i've heard it used a couple of times already, parkin, igoe.......)


Vieira wanted to leave Arsenal before the start of last season, until something fell through which then prompted him to do a u-turn and state that 'he didnt want to leave Arsenal!'.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: CARTMAN on Friday, July 15, 2005, 14:36:41
he's been pissing about for 4 years with all the ' i'm off to real madrid' crap just glad i don't have to listen to that next year
if he wanted a challenge he should have joined us and get us out of this divison  :D


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Spud on Friday, July 15, 2005, 15:48:10
Quote from: "CARTMAN"
he's been pissing about for 4 years with all the ' i'm off to real madrid' crap just glad i don't have to listen to that next year
if he wanted a challenge he should have joined us and get us out of this divison  :D


I think King missed out to be honest.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Leggett on Friday, July 15, 2005, 17:12:27
campell moves north, jenas moves south...


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, July 16, 2005, 19:49:10
Quote from: "Leggett"
campell moves north, jenas moves south...


sod that. it's cesc's time to shine...or hleb. hleb forward and lazy old gilberto resting back until the ball comes towards him. i can't believe wenger started to play cesc on the wings last season, ok pires is a cunt but that's just dumb.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 16, 2005, 19:56:36
I couldn't give a flying fuck about Arsenal.

I fucking hate em :evil:


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Spud on Saturday, July 16, 2005, 20:13:12
Quote from: "bennett"
Quote from: "Leggett"
campell moves north, jenas moves south...


sod that. it's cesc's time to shine...or hleb. hleb forward and lazy old gilberto resting back until the ball comes towards him. i can't believe wenger started to play cesc on the wings last season, ok pires is a cunt but that's just dumb.


I see Hleb was on target today. :D


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: larwood on Saturday, July 16, 2005, 20:33:06
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was Zidane not 30/31 when he enjoyed his world-record fee to Real Madrid for 40-odd million?

Not sure how old he was,but he's always looked quite old,with his monk style haircut. :) At the time when he left juve it was crazy season for transfer money and he was the one of the best players in the world.And flair players always go for more money.Vieira is a class player but i hope he fucks up next season.I hate juventus,they are the man utd of italian football.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Spud on Saturday, July 16, 2005, 20:42:57
Quote from: "larwood"
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was Zidane not 30/31 when he enjoyed his world-record fee to Real Madrid for 40-odd million?
I hate juventus,they are the man utd of italian football.


Damn, i like Juventus aswell.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: larwood on Saturday, July 16, 2005, 20:59:28
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i like Juventus aswell.

No Spuddy, that is very wrong :)
Juve have support all over italy but not much in turin.They make all their money from tv revenue and sponsorships.They get dodgy penalty decisions and they always seem to win,the bastards.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Spud on Saturday, July 16, 2005, 22:56:39
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i like Juventus aswell.

No Spuddy, that is very wrong :)
Juve have support all over italy but not much in turin.They make all their money from tv revenue and sponsorships.They get dodgy penalty decisions and they always seem to win,the bastards.


Yeah i have wondered why the attendances are so crap!. I started liking them during the Milan dominance in the 90's.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, July 17, 2005, 01:44:44
Juve pulled in 6,000 for a Champs League game once.

Their fans hate the out of Town stadium.


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: Spud on Sunday, July 17, 2005, 01:47:51
Quote from: "Spencer_White"
Juve pulled in 6,000 for a Champs League game once.

Their fans hate the out of Town stadium.


Whenever they're not playing Inter,Roma etc they get gates of 20,000. :shock:


Title: Patrick Vieira to Juventus
Post by: !!Humphreys!! on Thursday, August 4, 2005, 10:02:34
im an arsenal fan i can safely say dat we dnt need him no more. But we cood ov sold him 4 much mor dan dat, last season we agreed a fee wiv real madrid for 25 million, i know he had a shit season but rele come on 12 million less nah! hleb is rite mid plays excatly like freddie, jenas crap 4 arsenal, we looking to get essien now if we get him who cares about vieria!! Gunners till i did (swindon me local team)!!!!!!!!! :P