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Ten years today,i know people are probably fed up with hearing about it but all of us remember where we were on that shocking day ten years ago.

I'll never forget what day it was as it happens to be my birthday

Terrible thing that happened

Working behind a bar I was,.there was a cracking bit of stuff sat the other side and I was trying to look down her top when someone came in and said about the first plane going into the tower

Happy Birthday Dave,you will be getting that bus pass in the post soon and just think...you will be able to get in the County Ground a bit cheaper ;)

I was playing FM and didn't know anything about it til my dad came home and hurridly put the news on after work. Oblivious.

It was a terrible thing, but I can't help but be a little bit impressed by what the terrorists achieved, which probably makes me a bad person.

I've really quite 'enjoyed' (wrong word, can't think of another) all the various documentaries in the last couple of weeks. Moving and remarkable.

The doc with the French brothers is ssuperb

You seen that one?

I haven't... what channel was it, I'll see if it's online.

Was at school, went to the toilet before my last double lesson in English and some bloke fixing the dryer had a shit signal on a radio, caught something about 'the first plane being hijacked' wasn't completely aware until i got home what was happening.

I remember coming home fron school and my Dad had the news on. Didn't really get the magnitude of it to begin with.

I remember coming out of primary school and all the mums and dads stood their discussing it. Got home and for the only time ever was glued to the news.

Thoughts go out to all of those affected by it.

i was at home that day, saw the whole thing from the very start of the tv coverage, felt, as so many people have said, like it wasn't real.  awful.

what annoyed me though was we played wba up at the hawthornes - bobby howe's finest hour - and the radio in the car was all news on the attacs, it just felt by that stage of the day it would have been nice to have just listened to something normal like the build up to a large football program, at least on one radio station perhaps

I was at college in Chippenham news was spreading of a plane crash in New York, so our lecturer (of sorts) got a tv and wheeled it in. It was at the time where it wasn't being thought of as an attack, more of a disaster scenario. We watched as the second plane hit.........didn't know what the fuck was going on. It's the only event in my lifetime that really astonished me.

I remember, and I'm not exactly comfortable saying this, having some degree of detached anticipation - for want of a better word. I wasn't saddened or shocked. I think the whole scale of it and the huge film-like surreal feel the news had, only increased the unreality of it all for me. It almost had me waiting on the edge of my seat for the next crazy thing to happen.

Don't know of 'impressed' is quite the right word but I do know what you mean. My guess is that from the indoctrinated terrorist scum's point of view, 9/11 went way, way 'better' than they would have dared hope. They would have probably been delighted just getting one plane into one of the twin towers but to get both towers and get the Pentagon as well must have been beyond their wildest (utterly warped) dreams.

I was at school, just started year 11. A sunny day just like today. If it happened today (not literally Sunday) it would've got round school in no time, what with all the phones kids have now, but as it was I didn't hear about it til I got in at 3:15 pm.

Thirty seven years ago today The Stranglers were formed.

Driving up to The Hawthorns that afternoon and hearing it play out in the radio I had these visions in head of what it might look like. Then seeing it when I got home early hours it blew my mind. I'm still stunned when I see those planes fly into the buildings.  Those terrorist scum are the lowest of the low but they certainly planned it well.

Definitely recommend the French filmmakers documentary with the NYFD, amazing stuff.

Town put in a pretty good performance that night at WBA, lost in ET if memory serves me right

Makes me feel old with all the comments about people being at school.  I was at work and a colleague from another part of the office came.rushing over and said a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center.  At that point we all thought it was a terrible accident then we heard a second plane had hit.  I remember everyone crowding round computers watching the internet and then the internet crashed.  I rang my mum who was at home and she answered sounding quite strange and told me that a couple of minutes earlier the towers had collapsed and thousands of people were still inside. I don't think any work got done for the rest of the day and until I saw the news when I got home it was hard to envisage what had actually happened.

I was 18 and was visiting my family in Bristol at my Grandparents, think it was there anniversary, My dad and my Uncle rushed in and put the news on, we were all in shock, terrible day.
Couldnt quite believe what was happening, didnt seem real.

Funny enough i was sat in the same chair at my granparents in '97 when i switched on the telly to find out that Diana had been killed, i havent sat in that chair since  :hmmm:

Same as this. Got home about 3:30pm and turned the TV on and watched the coverage unfold in disbelief.

I was at College doing a coaching course, got a text from the girl friend saying America is under attack, didnt really believe it at the time, then I put the radio on in the car and heard it, raced home to put the tv on and sat there in shock!

The last 3 years of my life have been spent living just 10 miles from ground zero, and having the pleasure of seeing the sky line of Manhattan nearly every day for those 3 years makes me proud to call New York and New Jersey home...strangely enough, i feel it was 9/11 that actually drew me to move to the NY/NJ area...

I was sat in a shitty call centre doing a shitty job when the word started going around. Finished at 4pm and went and watched the TV News for hours. Total and utter disbelief.

One minor chuckle, not long after after we were told the second plane had hit, heard the sound of a Fat Albert flying over. Bloke next to me throws himself to the floor, crawls under his desk and rolls himself into a ball. I nearly pissed myself but this of course was before saw exactly what was going on.

That's made me feel extremely old.

I was at work, someone came past and said "You seen what's happened in New York?!"

So I spent the rest of the afternoon watching it unfold on the internet, couldn't believe it.

Oh and Happy Birthday to stfcinbmth!

I was at Chippenham College with no lectures that afternoon. I watched the second plane hit on the television screens in the reception... I asked the receptionist whether that was earlier footage and her replying "no, that's another one".

I'd just started at Swindon College - came home, was sat up in my room and my best mate (who was only next door!) rang me, which he never ever does...and just said have you got the news on. I didnt, so I switched on and was a bit like what the fuck?

Like Benny said, its bizare to think that it must have been going on for a few hours before I'd heard about it, this day and age i'd have heard/seen about it on my phone, on the tv and on the internet and possible on the internet and tv on my actual phone!

I know news stuff is pretty instant in these modern times, but isn't 3:15pm barely 10mins after the second plane hit, and less than half an hour after the first?

Nah pretty sure the first tower was down by that time?

I was waiting for a bus from New College, my mate came and said there'd been a plane crash into the World Trade Center. Had no idea what that was until we got to town and started watching the tv's in the window of Radio Rentals. By that point the second plane had hit. Stood there and watched for a while, then carried on home. By the time I got there, both towers were down.


The first plane hit at 13:46 our time, both towers down within 102 minutes.

i'd just started secondary school, came home and my mums exact words were 'some planes have crashed in america'. A lot like when Diana died, all I really remember thinking at the time was annoyance that it was all over the TV. The magnitude of it didn't really hit at the time.

Bizzarely, the next day at school one of our teachers had a right paddy on, and only just stopped short of blaming us for it all

I worked at RAF Lyneham. Horrible atmosphere afterwards for months.

You are all right of course about it being at 1ish not 3 our time. Don't know why I though that. Especially as it doesn't make sense on where I was.

I was in a computing class at new college, another teacher ran in doing the whole OMG someone's just flown a plane in to AMERICA thing. Our teacher tried to get us to get on with our work, but with the internet and news and stuff she soon gave up and told us we might as well just go home if we weren't going to do any work.

So we did.

I was in Thailand when 911 happened, a bit surreal at the time to be honest.

Looking back I kind of agree with some of the conspiracy theorists. Perfect timing for the invasion of afghanistan and iraq
 

I was 8 years old. In Kilburn on a bus when I found out.

Just before second year at uni, down at my girlfriend's parents place in Cornwall, heard it on the radio and then turned on the tv and watched it all play out for the rest of the day.  Remember the sick feeling when the second plane came into view and you just knew what was coming next. Both towers collapsing, and all that dust, still is incomprehensible.

The documentaries that have followed have been intriguing and interesting especially the ones that concentrate on the firemen - was one of these the french guys' doc? Not sure how I feel about the conspiracy documentaries, some pose interesting questions but others are just laughable. Guess there's still so many unanswered questions that people are bound to pose alternative theories about what happened and why.

RIP to the innocent.

Can't help thinking that if 9/11 had happened in any country other than the US, the media wouldn't be all over it 10 years later.

Sympathy for the victims and their families. Just like the thousands of others that are affected by terrorism all over the world, that don't get such great coverage.

Yeah, fucking superb that is

The last 3 years of my life have been spent living just 10 miles from ground zero, and having the pleasure of seeing the sky line of Manhattan nearly every day for those 3 years makes me proud to call New York and New Jersey home...strangely enough, i feel it was 9/11 that actually drew me to move to the NY/NJ area...

Where do you live Hanneyred? I live in NY also...thought I was the only town fan around!

I dont have a problem with the documentaries but i think the people believing this shit need to have a serious word with themselves.

I think if it had of happened to any other major country/big cities in the western world i think the coverage would be to the same sort of level.

I was at work,it seemed to break the internet :(

Was at work, it was so obviously massive the boss brought a radio into our area to listen. News webstire servers couldn't cope and had to follow on a forum with people updating what they were seeing on the news.

I remember it was first reported that a small commuter plane crashed, then the second plane hit and it was obvious  it was no accident...Then the pentagon and Flight 96. Inbetween there were confused reports of car bombs and such like, etc. Even one hoax of a hijacked plane heading towards the UK.

When the Towers fell it seemed unbelievable. The scenes on TV that night looked straight out of Hollywood. Seeing the "jumpers" on the news was horrific too. And it still is 10 years later.

I was at work on my own, in my shop in the Brunel Centre. The one thing I remember most was the the centre quickly turning in to a ghost town and being very, very quiet - felt somewhat surreal.

It was really good but the noise of bodies hitting the ground outside the towers is something I'll never forget.

This is what I was thinking, but at the risk of adding my own cynical outpourings, decided against putting it into words.

I think thats one of the things that will stay with me - the chap in the doc said "how bad must it be if the better option was to jump ?"

I was working at Nationwide on Pipers Way at the time and we all bundled into the e- service dept as they had tellys. A girl that worked with me was due to fly there on the 14th. She went to Scotland instead.

Anyone else know about Seth macfarlane missing the first plane to hit the trade centre? Didn't believe it was true but it's all over the net and he has confirmed it. Must be scary knowing that you were so close to what happened!

Indeed. Can't help but think of the massive earthquake and tsunami in 2004 which killed 230,000 and the complete lack of follow-up news stories that resulted, in the west anyhow.

Aside from the loss of life, neither are comparable. Earthquakes and tsunami's are acts of nature. Terrorism is an act of man, and 9/11 has changed the world forever

I was working for the police at the time. As you can imagine, things went a bit hectic. Even though it was thousands of miles away, it was an act of terrorism so people have to be aware.

Has it bollocks. That is the most ridiculous thing you've ever posted. And you've posted a lot of ridiculous things.

How exactly has it 'changed The World'?

Well air travel has certainly changed for everyone but i'm guessing this is more what your looking for

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0912-02.htm

Pretty sure I pulled a sickie that day as I was at home watching it all unfold live on Sky or BBC News. However as someone else has said, watching it didn't really appear real, it was just like watching an extremely realistic movie.

The towers collapsing like a pack of cards was unreal.

I have seen some of the documentaries this week, some really good viewing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/september-11-attacks/8755834/911-anniversary-Muslim-protesters-burn-US-flag-outside-embassy-in-London.html

Filth of the highest order.

They seem to forget that many of the people killed on that day were also Muslims.

See the post below.

People can say the aftermath has been overplayed because it's America. I think if anything it's the opposite, and that because it's america people aren't willing to recognise the significance of the attacks. Not saying thats your view btw, just the opinion i've formed through seeing peoples opinions

they hate them more though because they're western sympathisers

I was 7 and all I remember was being annoyed that my mum wouldn't let me turn the news off.

Been watching quite a few documentaries this week, the pictures are just sureal.

yup correct, he had a dentist appointment which he was late leaving. i think it was the flight from boston.

i never heard about it until i got back from school, i remember it being sunny and hot that day, but i was too young to really understand what was going on.

That didn't answer my question. I'm not for one minute saying that 9/11 wasn't a huge, tragic atrocity, but 'changed the world for ever'?

The whole of recorded history is filled with countless atrocities, many on a much greater scale than 9/11. If anything, it just further proves that mankind in general is totally fucked up, always has been and always will be.

Some parts of the attacks are still a bit taboo with most Americans, over 200 people jumped or fell from the towers but its a part of the attack that is seldom mentioned. There was a documentary That touched on the subject where they picked out a falling figure ( the falling man ) it's not an easy subject to talk about but still part of the terror attack all the same.

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I guess it did if you are American. Until that day nobody really considered aircraft would be used by terrorist in such a way. Nobody in America thought terrorists would strike in their country (well there was the Oklahoma City bombing, but that was an isolated incident of a nutter pissed off with the federal government).

I guess what I'm saying is it was game changing for security, the counter terrorism agencies and protection of our countries.

Also for us in the UK we were of course used to the IRA bombings (docklands, manchester, etc), and so an attack on the innocent populous wasn't so shocking, although the scale and method was. OF course some groups in the USA were IRA sympathisers - its not inconceivable that 9/11 dried up some of these funds leading to the cease fire in 2005. Perhaps a little far fetched.

But Herthab has a good point. Other than the security implications - for most of us our lives haven't really changed at all. We still go about doing the things we we want to do. Which is how it should be.

I was sat at home waiting to go back to Uni and was watching the afternoon episode of Neighbours which they interrupted half way through for a news bulletin.

I knew straight away it was big ... They dont cut Neighbours half way through for nothing small!!

Apart from the fact that Muslims are the new Irish. Do you trust them or are you guarded against them? If you saw one on the underground with a backpack , what would you think? What do you think if you see a Muslim woman with only her eyes visible.
Having an Irish name and looking like a typical Paddy was not a great deal of fun in the 70s.
It has ceertainly not only changed USA but UK as well.
Being of Irish descent I'm nealry acceptable now.

I was 9 at the time, all I remember is watching he news non stop for the first time in my life and teachers trying to educate us on the situation and Busteds song crash and burn had to be renamed because of it. But the image of people jumping out of he building still horrify me to his day .

The terrorist threat landscape has changed beyond recognition. The IRA bottom line was about about political/economic disruption and killing security services.

The IRA gave coded warnings with the sole intent of drawing Police/Army in to blow them up but inevitably innocents were killed when the warnings were vague or delayed. There members valued there own life so ensured they were far away when the bomb went off.

Today's threat is more immediate and is far more difficult to prevent. The terrorists dont care if they are caught in the act, they'll blow themselves up in the process. Very very difficult to manage, no warnings, no time to defuse - the sole intent is maximum collateral damage.

The threat has to be dealt with through intelligence and yet security services in the UK are being screwed through cutbacks - the only certainty is that there will be a another 7/7 at some point in the near future...

What about the 1993 WTC truck bomb?  People knew the WTC was a target as it symbolised American power.

Well I can't get on a fucking Plane now with a nail file, pair of scissors or bottle of water...

Me too!! That was exactly my situation - cutting into the afternoon Neighbours episode meant something important must have happend! Being a student paid off as i could watch the whole thing although hearing people say they were at primary school is a bit scary.

For America, 9/11 provided the "good guy vs, bad guy" narrative it had been craving since the fall of the soviet union, and the end of the "COMMUNIST THREAT", with those dirty Moosleems taking that place.

We've had a similar thing here, although it's obviously been more tied in with domestic issues. Far right groups like the EDL and the BNP have jumped on the american ideology of bad guys vs good guys, whilst the rest of us probably actually know some Muslims and probably aren't worried about them blowing up our houses or living in our country.

It's interesting to note that there have been very few Islamic terrorist attacks across Europe in the last ten years, yet the media still link the idea of terrorism with Islam as if they are pretty much the same thing.

The EU records on terrorist attacks for the last year pretty much sums this up...

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I don't blame the media for this, in our brutal free-market world they have to report on things to sell newspaper, nobody wants to read anything which goes against their world view.

So the biggest fault is the massive failure of the BBC, which seems to have confused being unbiased with being neutral. They aren't the same thing, and you end up with the BBC news output being just another right wing copy of the commercial news media.

This has turned into a bit of a waffle, sorry. love you all x


e: sources and shit.

2011 https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf
2010 http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cmsUpload/TE-SAT%202010.pdf

Doesn't that show that the only terrorist attack in the UK was islamist extremists though? The media jump on a story and hype it up I will agree - we've moved on to the riots now

It was my 14th Birthday and one of my 1st weeks in year 9 at school. Remember being picked up from school and being told that there had been terrorist attacks in NY. Went home and was glued to the tv all afternoon and evening. Friends and family came round that evening and that was the only topic of conversation, as you can imagine.

Can't believe it's already been 10 years. Absolutely flown by.

no pun intended.  :doh:

Shame the planes hadn't.

I was in the US, on the West Coast, was due to fly to NY on Friday 14th. Fortunately I organised the trip that way round. Came down for breakfast in the hotel to be met with endless replays of the strikes and towers collapsing. A strange few days that's for sure

company i was working for was being taken over by a company called nestor healthcare group plc, the day after the attacks our financial director comes into the office and explains that 'NHG have moved into our London branch'  Gemma a girl i worked with thought it was terrorists trying to take a healthcare agency - she looked terrified.  silly girl

Often use a nail file, do you?!

I was working for STFC. We ended up going to the west brom game in the league cup. incidentally, Town played well, even Bobby Howe, but atmosphere was very weird. I thought game shouldn't have taken place as everyone was a bit freaked out, but then again you can't let things like this affect the way you go about your life i suppose.

Even now, watching all the documentaries, still can't get mi head around it.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Hahahaha

Fact is for many years i have thought that only the two pilots and a backup should be allowed in the Cockpit at ANY time during a flight.
Even if the hijackers caused carnage in the plane with passengers they shouldn't have been able to access the cockpit which allowed them to use the planes as they did.
I still see the doors being opened willy nilly on flights....once they close the cabin doors then the cockpit doors should be shut the entire flight with no exceptions.

You aren't gonna let the poor buggers have some food brought into them?

On a serious note though, do pilots have a shitter in the cockpit?  I've dont think i've ever seen a pilot use the pleb bogs on a flight before.

Some do some don't...as for food surely even a 24 hour flight could see enough food stored in the cockpit rather than running the risk of some nutter gaining access to the flying area.

I'm slightly obsessed with all things NYC & went out of my way to visit ground zero when I was there, I would challenge anyone to go into the 9/11 memorial museum & not be moved

I was at work and my mate was picking me up early cause we where going to wrexham vs Bury (i think it was them)

didn't see a tv until we got up to a pub in wrexham so couldn't really grasp the scale of what had happened

I've sobbed at some of the documentaries that have been on in the last week, so I know it would affect me.  Will def go there when I finally visit New York.

As others have said,  however many times you watch the replays on tv, it's still unbelievable.  Somebody also mentioned the number of people who jumped.   I didn't realise until I watched a documentary the other night about some of the firefighters who died that people on thw ground were killed by jumpers landing on them.

The sheer terror of those jumping or trapped with no chance of escape is unimagineable. 

I'm watching children of 9/11 now
God :(

We had a minute silence outside the station yesterday

I wish I could have been in NYC yesterday - I think the way they do they two towers of light where the towers stood looks amazing

The flag unfurled at the Giants game was pretty incredible.

Was that the biggest flag in the world or something??

I'd be surprised if it isn't!

http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/ap_photo/20110911/all/l5442302.jpg

I remember hearing shortly after 9/11 that the first firefighter to die at the scene was killed by a falling jumper. 90% of the people that died in the attacks were either at or above the points of the planes impacts. Hundreds of people made their way to the roof tops but with the smoke and heat some chose to jump. Horrifying stories still coming out about 9/11 so many years later.

I'm off to NY the week before Xmas so will visit it. I went up that way a few years back but it was just loads on contruction work going on.

 I was the same as many others when it happened. At School, didn't find out until after school finished and got home and was glued to the TV. It's crazy that anything like this ever happened and as i was fairly young i didn't quite know what was happening.