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OK so we have lost 5 games out of 7 but is it really that bad?

We won our first game 3-0 after a stuttering start but then lost our next three with a win over brizzle in between and then lose to shrews and Southampton but let's analyse this carefully

We haven't lost by more than one goal in the league - if we were truly as shit as people on here were making out we would be getting thumped by at least three goals and scoring none.

We are finding our feet - this has been a major rebuilding exercise and was always going to be tough.

If last years team had been playing this years Southampton they would have been thumped by at least 4 or 5 goals and been out of breath after 20 minutes - ok we lost 3-1 but in the second half we matched them and again should have only lost by one goal or forced extra time.

PDC has upset players by being disciplined but at the start of the season every supporter was demanding this was what we needed - we need to accept that some players will fall by the wayside not criticise Di Canio for doing what we all wanted.

It's about time that certain fans stopped finding excuses for not supporting the club. Di Canio was not to blame for last nights debacle and, whilst it is easy to point the finger for our defeats, accept that the learning curve for a new manager is longer than 7 games and stop fucking whinging...

Yes our start is really bad. We've lost our last 4 league games.

And there in lies the problem...

We lost a lot of games last year by the odd goal.  This season already feels too much like last season.  

But in addition we have a fitness coach who's managed to wind a player up, a resulting public arguement and shoving match between said player and a manager.  A manager who signs strikers like they're going out of fashion and they can't score anyway, and even if one of them could he gets subbed at stupid times.

None of this bodes at all well.

You also forget that we beat Southampton at home last year 1-0. And their team hasn't changed much since.

Got to be honest was hoping for better things after our first day win, although we weren't three goals better than Crewe. Would be a bit more confident even if we doubled our points tally. Hopefully by Saturday afternoon we will all be a little bit less stressed and it will be our turning point. Here's hoping !

Yes its a bad start, but its a long long way from being unrecoverable! There have been periods in most of the games where we have looked good. If only we could get it together for 90. Question marks remain over our defending of set pieces and ability to score goals. But if we can settle we'll be fine.

PDC is worrying me. Alienating players. If it was just Clarke you could understand it and pin it on the player. His shabby treatment of Connell and Timlin suggests it wasn't a one off.

It is possible that this approach will separate the wheat from the chaff, we'll come out stronger and go on a storming run. Its equally possible Di Canio is nuts and the whole thing will go tits up by Christmas (or sooner at this rate!). Impossible to say, but its hard not to be concerned.

I'm with you @MacPhlea, sort of... Our start to the season has been poor, but at the same time I don't think it's as bad as people are making out at all. We got poor results at Cheltenham and Daggers, but they were close games and the side was far from settled. Oxford we put in the performance and if Devera had been awake that day we'd have got at least a point. We beat City, finally showing what we can do, and we've put in two good halves in the last two games.

We're not there yet, and I don't expect us to start tearing the division apart any time soon. But if we can get 4-6 points out of the games against Rotherham, Sarfend and Crawley it'll set us up nicely for what looks a run of much more winnable games thereafter.

We have to win on Saturday and again next week to release some of this pressure. Anything less than 4 points from the next 2 games and PDC/club will have to seriously look at his position.

I think Di Canio's approach to fitness is spot on for this level, if he can settle on his best XI then we'll be fine but if he can't then we'll be in trouble as the constant tinkering clearly isn't working.

One of the reasons I think we did well in the PO season with Wilson was that you knew exactly who would be in the team when everyone was fit and available.  We need to get back to that but until we do we'll struggle.

Not even going to bother reading the posts, if anyone has responded anything other than 'yes' then they're an imbecile.

Its been about as shit as we could have had nightmares about. Losing at home to the Scummers was a biggie. We need to get some degree of stability. At this moment its looking very unlikely. I hope it works out but its not looking great. A couple of wins, however, and it will be all smiles again.

However, defeat at home against Rotherham would be 5th league defeat on trot. Beginning to think the gamble of appointing di Canio has not paid off and maybe we should have gone for the safe option instead. Lets hope we get them 3 points Saturday!

Yes.

3 points from 15 is piss poor

...and a defeat at home to the fucking scum thrown in as well.

Connell tweeted this early this morning:

@AlConnell83: Early days at stfc,we've a very good squad,boys get on great,still very optimistic about the season! Please keep up your tremendous support

For someone who got subbed after 30 mins and witnessed fights between staff he seems quite jolly. Good on him, I like Connell.

He should be fucking livid, I would be if I was subbed off after 29 minutes for no good reason.

Perhaps he doesn't a right cross from Di Canio  :)

 Think if it had gone something like WDLDL  with the win at Bristol City and defeat by Soton....people would have said..stuttering start, but some patches of decent play and we can improve.  The worry is that the same as last season, very basic errors are costing us points.....that is a difficult habit for even an experienced  coach to shake out of the system.

My hope for this season, unlike most, is that we might see some some signs of progress and at least be competitive at home.  So I'm giving it say another 5 home games...in which we need at least 2 wins and 2 draws.

He's a glass half full kind of bloke it appears. That and the fact he doesn't want to Piss of Di Canio

We already have a fair bit of catching up to do but I think we have a squad capable of getting us out of the league.

Di Canio is clearly a bit nuts, however, and needs to tone down his touchline reactions to events on the pitch - he can't be properly analysing what is happening out on the pitch if he is arguing with the officials or turning round hitting the dugout. A bit of detachment required on his part.

If we can learn to score goals as easily as we concede them, then that's a start.

But yes, our start has been that bad. 4 defeats from 5 in the league, no matter how you dress it up, is not good enough.

But i'm not panicking yet. I'm mightily pissed off and feel like i've had enough this season already, but things will improve. They just have to...... don't they?

If we click and play as a team then I think we could tear this league a new arsehole, a bit like our play-off season.

At the moment, it's just Flint and ten others - not a team.

Same here.  More generally, I am concerned, however, that we're a laughing stock.  Signing a player to great fanfare - probably with a hefty signing on fee - and then shipping him out again less than 2 weeks later looks Mickey Mouse.

But - I also accept that Di Canio's overhaul was always likely to kick up some dust in the early days.  To extend the metaphor, it's how (or whether) the dust settles that will determine our season.  Still a real chance of a successful season, in my view.  But it's got to start falling in to place very soon...or the season will start to run away from us and PDC's authority/ability to lead will start to wane.

Never a dull moment.

Agreed. There's enough there to really destroy this league, particularly on the wings in my view, we just need to get a spine settled of centre backs, central midfield and goalkeeper sorted.

The playoff season, we knew that those five would be Lucas, Cuthbert, Greer, Douglas and Ferry barring injury or suspension...right now, the only settled member of that key 5 is Flint, and I suppose Phil Smith has played every game but I don't exactly think he'll be there for the long term.

No....but then were we really that bad last season?!....only dicked by Saints and lost every game by the odd goal...as this....

Dont really think the question needs to be asked.Unequivocal yes

If we can start turning defeats into draws and win our home games, basically become tougher to beat, and Paolo learns from his mistakes, then we can progress. We all know the squad is good enough to do damage, so it's up to the manager to get that out of them. Clearly the majority of thew squad still believe.

Comazzi and Flint defo our central duo, so let's see how they do when Comazzi 100% fit. Also Lanzano to replace Smith and perhaps a settled run for whoever PDC thinks is our starting midfield and strike duo. To my mind, in recent circumstances, it should feature Gabilondo, Ferry, McCormack and Ritchie, Margera and Connell.

September will make or break di Canio.

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Good post, have to agree with this..

I now think there are more worrying signs than positive ones. This can be turned around,but with a side nowhere near complete i wont hold my breath.
The first choice forward wont play again and the tinkering so far has got us nowhere. Di canio will really prove if he has what it takes in the next few weeks

Agree with all of the last few comments. Results don't lie, the start has been poor, poorer than any of us would have feared, but PDC is trying to do the right things behind the scenes.

We can't change what's happened and there have been signs of progress. We outplayed Oxford and City and Crewe/shrews for 45 mins. Opening half v crewe is explainable, Shrews can be put down to PDC error.

Dagenham poor but we would have taken a point had we held on, Cheltenham could have gone either way.

It's not dire, but the margin for what is acceptable and what isn't is very fine. The problem is, things aren't going our way and the longer that happens, the quicker rot sets in, as we found to our cost last season. That losing feeling has to be nipped in the bud.

Win Saturday and we can all breath a little easier, but Rotherham are gonna smell blood.

It's been a bad start. However we need to give the manager and the players time. It's as simple as that.

Indeed, we had a similar start under Macari in 85 when we won the league, if we had got rid of him then we would never have got 102 point that very same season.

A little time and hopefully we can do the same again :) glass half full.

And he will get time, no doubt. But, and it's a big but, there has to be something coming back in return for our/board's patience.

If September is a repeat of august the board will have no choice but to reconsider.

Here's hoping it won't come to that.

This sums it up pretty well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEjz_ahca6c

Not yet. It could be that it is, but if Paolo has anything about him this last week could be used to our advantage to unite everyone and come out on top at the weekend.

Interesting to note that at the end of Aug 1985, our sequence in the league had been LLWD leaving us in 18th place.  The really bad run came the following month when we added the sequence WLLL - leaving us in 21st place after losing away at Hartlepool on Sept 28th 1985.  It was during October (WWWWL), November (WWWWL) and December (WWWW) that the turnaround started.  After that run, we finished 1985 in top, two points ahead of Chester.

All of which goes to show that PDC should be afforded not just a little more time, but quite a lot.  Hopefully, he won't need it though.

Agreed.

I know we are all desperate for a turnaround in fortunes so remember when Ossie joined and we got stuff 4-0 at Elland Road - then we beat Wolves and that kick started our season.

There's no patience in football nowadays. In our PO year in 03/04 we were mid table going nowhere at Christmas then we went on an unbeaten run for 3 months and shot up the league. Way to early to judge. We've got a squad capable this season.

A similar September to Lou Mac's would really test everybody's patience! But hopefully yes, wins will allay all of our fears. I would love Paolo to make a success of this - his squad is good enough and he's desperate to do well.

I'm not sure the squad is good enough. I dont think Di canio is either(sure about the squad)

Totally agree with what Arriba has said.  Everything just seems one big mess at the moment and I don't feel at all positive at the moment.  The results and disappointment last season were bad enough, but at least the manager just appeared clueless.  This time we've got slightly physcotic thrown in and the whole of English football having a laugh at our expense.

It's a bad start no doubt about it and the other concern is current team morale.  I don't believe Clarke will be the last player who is shown the door.

the whole of English football having a laugh at our expense.

Are you sure? Most football fans couldnt give a damn about it, this sort of thing happens week in week out all over the country, PDC is a high profile character and the media just wait for moments like this. Next week it will be someone else, time to move on me thinks. We can all speculate about team morale but unless you train with them everyday or play 90 minutes on a Saturday how the hell can people say that morale is effected?  Some players just cant cope with hard work, well if that is the case then bye, bye. Yes, i am a little concerned that we keep buying strikers but the players that he has let go havent exactly set the world on fire have they? Patience is a rare virtue nowadays, we all want instant results and success, give PDC some time. 

Spot on Foggy.

This is swindon remember! We usually have a very good or very bad season, i can't remember the last time we started bad and turned it around. Reg? Seeing as we haven't been thumped in the league I hope we do have a season where our fortunes change. Can I ask one question, do we look like we can get back inuto a game when we go behind? (unlike last season).

The start to the season has actually made me fall out of love with football a little bit, if only because it feels like last year again at the moment and im a bit sick of having the optimism and excitement knocked out of me by 5pm every Saturday.

There have been some positives to the season and some good performances but unfortunately they dont get you points, the more games we lose the harder it is to pick the players back up again. The team needs to click but at the moment neither Defence, Midfield or Forwards have struck up any kind of partnerships and it doesn't help when we haven't stuck with a team for more than one game at a time.

If/when we click as a team I think we will do ok but im not convinced as of yet we have a squad capable of promotion, our next 3 games against top 7 clubs are going to be massive for us and will be a real test of what we are capable of.

di Canio was a big risk which we all knew at the time, as of yet the jury is still out on him but now is the time for him and the squad to show what they are capable of.

Results wise, its obvuoisly a shit start to the season.

Expectations-wise even the more grounded of our fans would have expected a better points return, although it was always going to be near impossible to get a brand new team to start mullering all comers right from the start.

performance wise, its not been that bad. As others have said in the league we've only lost by 1 goal and should not have lost against the scum or cheltenham. I've seen enough to suggest we have the basis of a good team at this level, but it needs to all come together - and fast.

Is our start really that bad?

Well, it's not very good

Hoping to see an improvement Saturday

To state the absolutely obvious - its not a good start.  It was never going to match the start we made last time in this league, but I don't think any of us expected it to.  Its fair to say we all reasonably expected a bit more, and certainly defeat at home to Oxford is hard to accept. 

However - its very early on, its a very new squad and we have a few problems.  The test is, given a few months, can the manager sort those out and make us competitive.  I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

You will have it knocked out of you earlier than 5pm on Saturday!

I work in Oxford and work with mates that support Southamptom So Ive been getting it right the neck  :cry:

Just a few points:

The press are circling Di Canio like vultures as they know he is likely to give them a good story. The amount of times the photographers were aiming the cameras at Di Canio (Swindon v Southampton) instead of the game was riduclous. It was like Di Canio was the only thing they wanted to write about. Di Canio should be aware of this and temper himself until the press get bored and move onto writing what they should be writing about, the GAME

Di Canio Spent more time complaining and showing his frustrations towards the bench rather than watching the game which dissappointed me. FFS we were playing a top championship side and we have a newly assembled squad. What did he expect?

It seems like nothing will please him even when sometimes things do go well. This must be very demoralising for the players.

I've heared that Di Canio and his team are absolutely fitness freaks and are constantly running the team hard to improve fitness but I beleive this is having a negative effect as physically they are knackered before they have kicked a ball.

Subbing conell after 30mins was strange and even had me asking the bloke next to me at the game if smith was injured. Again not good for a guys morale and embarressing for the fella

Di Canio is learning and unfortunately we are the team he is learning with. Will he turn this around, yes i think he will but he will need the time. Di Canio's man management skills is what is letting him down at the moment but this is what will come with time, my only fear is if too much water has gone under the bridge so to speak.

A lot of this post sounds anti Di Canio but im totally the opposite. I want him to succeed, I love his passion and hopefully one day we can all for thank him what he has done for the club.

I am a bit disappointed with the clarke situation as I thought out of all the strikers we have I thought he was one of the decent ones and has been unlucky not to have scored in a few games, again it is just more time needed and im sure his luck would have changed. I would have like both Di Canio, the fitness coach and clarke to have sat down and sorted it out. Once we had got a few wins under our belts im sure this would have all been forgotten about. I Just think the pressure is getting to a lot of people at swindon.

Looking forward to the next game

Why would he have taken Connell off if Smith was injured?

Sounds like the kind of sub Hart would of made

Yes they are and no it doesnt.

The Pox might be i doubt very much if anyone else is that fussed.

Sorry I meant to say Connell, had smith on my mind at the time of writing, as i thought he didn't have a great game

Phil or the other one?

got a bit of banter from some shitty fans in the office but that is mostly due to the fact i have been ripping the piss all week. No one else really cares fanwise. Managers, owners and players would be a different story  

I meant the other one but now that you mention it, I dont think either had a good game.

Busts up happen all the time, difference being this one was out in the open and not in the changing room.

Care to qualify that statement Dan?

Judging by his record I would guess not...

it really is hard to say what goes on in every dressing room every saturday. I would guess this is pretty common and only is a massive issue due to PDC's past

Bang on. If it wasnt on camera no-one would even fucking know

I never tire of pointing out that Lou...had a season 84/85 where he worked up to being able to turn around our shaky start. In that season we had a dodgy start,  3 wins in 11 I think, but a new man needs time etc. He'd had taken over from Ken Beamish who had previously achieved our lowest ever position and lowest ever crowds, so everyone knew it would most likely not happen overnight.

Macari....started by making us hard to beat at home, 14 undefeated from October, after a dodgy September. The away form was just about a mirror image of defeats until after the infamous sacking incident, when it picked up.

So he was building in 85/86 from something reasonably stable....at the start of the season, several of his new signings didn't work...Mossy, Tony Evans, Joke Findlay, Derek Hall...so were rapidly ditched. The one stand out was Colin Calderwood, as a leader....

The later additions of Bambi and Kammy, turning it into an unbeatable unit...

ATM we're light years away from anything like that side....and in this current climate the manager wont get the time to build, unless there is some evidence of progress...

Loads of people are laughing at us - I've had the usual plastic arm chair mancs, gooners and scousers all ask what's going on at Swindon and talking about how mental Di Canio is what a laughing stock we are. Not to mention plenty of other fans on mixed forums.

I've seen very few on pitch bust ups so I dont think its fair to say it happens every week - you could claim it happens behind closed doors - maybe it does? but thats still not on the pitch and still not in the public eye. Obviously there was Bowyer and Dyer at Newcastle a few years ago but how often does the fitness coach go onto the pitch argue with a player who then argues with his manager and then ends up fighting down the tunnel? There are so many cameras about (certainly at the top level anyway) that if scenes like that were happening every week they'd get as much media attention as we have following the incident.

Also, thats 'allegedly' about the 3rd or 4th player Di Canio has had a bust up with already.

Ronnie chuffing Irani and Alan Brazil were revelling in it on talksport. So let us use that denominator to assume the piss was being taken. We are PDC's Swindon and little else to the nationals a la Nigel Clough and Burton Albion.

Good post Reg. Lets face it we're all hoping PDC will be a modern day Lou. He is indeed light years away at the moment but hopefully he can turn things around. He may need a couple of wins or even draws to get people off his back for a while. Problem is we don't really do mid table very well do we.

I can't believe some people have sided with Clarke in saying we're training them too hard. Every game i've watched the town in last 20+ years someone has probably harked back to how fit Lou's team were, how they're not as fit today etc etc....

Fair enough Dan but how many league 1 and 2 clubs have the same sort of media attention that we do this season? not many i would suggest. Everyone knows that Di Canio is a bit different to the norm so that shouldnt come as any great suprise to fans of other clubs, i havent heard anyone call us a laughing stock. Maybe these supposed bust ups are with players that think that they are better than they actually are? who knows? certainly not me or you or anyone outside STFC.    

Even with limited media coverage the lower leagues probably have enough cameras and reporters there that incidents like the one we had the other night would get seen and talked about. I have no doubt that Di Canio will bring a bit more media attention but I still dont think things like that happen regulary up and down the country but go unnoticed.

Timlin has never struck me as 'thinks that he's better than he actually is' but then I dont really know the bloke...

Fuck me DV if we were worried about armchair fans of big clubs taking the piss then i think we should all have given up years ago. We all know most of them don't know what they're talking about anyway so why listen to the cunts.

I think we have to realise that the media will sensationalise the positives and the negatives because of PDC's stature in the game. However annoying or innacurate it might be we just have to learn to live with it.

DV, honestly why do you give a flying fuck what other fans think? Seriously?

A good manager saves his punches for his own team for the changing room....eg Pulis on Beatie

He should save the aggro in the tunnel or pitch for the opposition eg Mourinho on Barca gofer.

Don't they teach this shit on the FIFA pro license course?

I'm not worried but the point is they are laughing at us....


As above, I dont give a fuck - the perception is still we're a joke club with a mental manager and we cant win a game in the bottom division.

So what, let them laugh. Who cares what other fans think. It's early days.

And like wise i couldn't give a fuck what they're doing. They'll always be laughing at us (little old Swindon etc) but their views mean shit as they don't really know what supporting a football club means anyway.

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As above, I dont give a fuck - the perception is still we're a joke club with a mental manager and we cant win a game in the bottom division.
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If you don't give a fuck why post it, i think you'll find that maybe where the confusion is arising. The "perception" (well yours anyway) is wrong.

If I was you i wouldn't give a fk what they thought.  When we start flying up that table, they won't have anything to taslk about but wank over a team they will never go to watch.

A bit like DV then

:D

:clap:

This. Who really cares? I ike Di Canio. Results haven't been great but he deserves time. I don't every performance has been bad like last season either. We've actually been decent in a few games just not for 90 minutes.

It appears so.  :D

Did you read my post? I said I dont care what they think.


...because the question was posed as to whether other fans saw us as a laughing stock and they do.


Cant see it happening any time soon.

COME BACK AND SLAG IT OFF ONCE YOU HAVE ACTUALLY WATCHED US PLAY !!!!!!

Dan, you are turning into a typical Thisis keyboard warrior.

Always thought you were better than that, but I am starting to doubt. I think the controversy actually gets you off a little bit !

Yes, next topic?

There is no such thing as bad publicity - the amount of media coverage over the last week will only be good for the club.

Take the Rotherham game, I can see loads of extra people watching it in the hope PDC goes off on one again so more chance of Sky showing other games so more money from the TV rights. Can see it helping attendances as well, people will end up going to see PDC no matter how shit the football is.

Overall I reckon it's been a great start to the season. The football and especially the results have been a bit shit but PDC has more than made up for it. Just think what it would be like if Paul Hart was still in charge.

I think people have been harsh on Paul Hart, nobody would be questioning his demeanour or tactics if he'd kept us up.

I think Gerald Ratner may disagree with that marketing cliche.

I agree with jonny. No league 2 clubs ever get this sort of publicity and national exposure. I'm all for it.

Wouldn't say it's been a great start to the season, but it's certainly been interesting and I still reckon PDC is the right man for the job. He might be a fucking lunatic, but at least he seems to care.
And if he did punch Leon Clarke, then fair fucking play to him, as I reckon the childish prick was asking for it.

Results business.

I've said time and time again - I'll take 46 shit, boring, negative 1-0 wins a season for life. The results speak volumes about our current shitness.

pot, kettle, black and all that....

At least I can speak from a qualified position, being that I HAVE ACTUALLY WATCHED THE TEAM THIS SEASON

You mate are arguing from a weakened position

have we lost 4 out of our 5 league games or not?

also, have you been to a game sober :)

I've heard that DV has been going to games.

I imagine that he's been going in blackface as a disguise.

With all the doom and gloom at the moment I was today thinking of some good times in our recent history, the two wins over Leeds, Saints away on a tuesady night, Chalton in play off semi and even Greers equaliser v Norwich, can't remember anything much from last season ! I for one am still looking forward to many more good times watching the Town. We still have to play Scum away, Rovers twice the Gippo's twice and beating that lot would go a long to making the home loss against Oxford a distant memory. With all the crap media coverage in the last few days it just proves further how proud I am to follow Swindon Town. Amen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKIKKXm6Mlk

Guilty.

Its difficult to get that black stuff out my beard though :(

I fackin love it

I made the initial comment about us being a laughing stock, which others questioned.  I was basing it on the following:

Receiving no fewer than 5 e-mails at work on Wednesday from non supporting Swindon colleagues asking if I'd seen anything and adding in their own personal opinions on the matter ie Di Canio is a nutter.  My brother who lives in Australia ringing home on Wednesday to find out what had happened having had several people (knowing he supports Swindon)approach him at work about it.

Bloody hell has this placed morphed into thisis???

It always leans that way when we're not winning and we haven't really been winning for an awful long time  :)

People are still typing out sentences, ish; they're still backing up their problems with the club with reasons; and nobody has yet claimed that we should have spent the board's billions poaching Alex Ferguson as manager.

I think we're doing okay still.

the only people laughing at us are people who know us as town fans who are mates,work collegues etc. Not the whole fucking football nation pointing at us laughing.
Get a grip for fucks sake.

having not paid much attention to or posted on this forum for a while it really has gone downhill.  its one small step above thisis now, which has plenty of twats but an improved number of reasonable posters. this forum has suffered from the exact opposite.

Don't rush back then

The table doesn't lie - one win, four defeats.  Yes it could be worse but is not good.

Lets hope things turn for the better, starting tomorrow and we can forget it come May.

We are talking more historic shitness here...in all our FL history since 1920....you will only find 4 seasons where less points were taken and 3 where the total was equalled after 5 games.

Let's get a bit of perspective on these seasons ...61/62 opened with 2 draws and 3 defeats.....Bert's Babes, very young side, no pressure on a manager clearly making improvements, safe mid table finish.

80/81....Bob Smith, previous near success, popular manager but spent a bit 5, opening defeats....sacked.

93/94...Prem...1 point taken from first 5 games, but we all knew it would be a struggle...no pressure on Gorman, he could have jumped with Hoddle, but had some goodwill, relegated.

98/99...2 points from first 5...McMahon survived that for a couple of games, but soon sacked after fan protest.

What about the 3 points after 5 games seasons?

55/56 widely regarded as battling with last season as worst ever....the Board don't appoint manager, but feel they can do the job themselves...bottom of Div 3S apply for re-election.

56/57 initially Board carry on same policy, but after 3 points in 5 appoint Bert Head...start of an upward trend.

2010/11 Widely regarded as the worst season in STFC history.

I'm inclined to think a horror show tomorrow will see di Canio consigned to the dustbin of STFC history, a point and he goes on.

The Leon Clarke situation has seemed to galvanise most Town fans behind Di Canio. It has been a welcome distraction for him. But another defeat saturday is unthinkable.

Dave Jones is a good manager.

September, 45 BC
Caesar becomes emperor for life, Hail Caesar and all that Roman salute business

1879
Revd  William Pitt, founder of Swindon Town, shown in photo in 4-0 defeat against Rover FC, you could call it a bad start

September 1st 1939 
German bloke invades Poland, after Lazio fan signed Pact of Steel with him in the May previous

September 2nd 1939 Meanwhile Swindon continue with bad starts and only gain their first point of the season by holding the Shots at home 

September 3rd 1939 
Lucky let off for Town as Chamberlain declares war on Germany and the league program is suspended

September 28th 1985
A 1-0 defeat leaves STFC with 7 points from 8 games, 4th from bottom and 14 points behind the leaders but still Macari isn’t sacked for once and for all.  Lucky let off as rookie manager gets the hang of it and STFC go up as champions

September 23rd 1989
A heavy 4-0 defeat at Leeds as Town are just one spot above the bottom 3 with a rookie Ardiles from fascist Argentina in charge (oh, these shit starts) , and still not sacked.  Lucky let off via the play offs that the FL correct

April 1  1991
ok footballer but crap newbie manager with weird views about the disabled takes over and sees Town win 2, draw 1 and lose 6 as they are nearly relegated but the board show patience and he gets lucky, very lucky, the next season


January 2005 
PDC in fascist salute controversy at Lazio 3-1 Roma – Italian minister comments “poor lad, like all Lazio supporters he is just not used to winning”

December 2010
After the usual shit start it actually gets worse after fans see Swindon’s last home win of the campaign, eventually Paul Hart has to take over

31 August 2011 
Lazio supporter not used to winning with no experience in charge - 2 wins from 7 games is unheard of, shurely he'll be sacked or might there be yet another lucky let off?

Very well put.

The 39 side though only lost 2 out of 3, but similarly lost its star striker Alan Fowler, who'd managed a brace v Aldershot, in his last game for the club. Fowler's last game was brought about by fighting a fascist...unfortunately in his case rather than driving back to London in his kit...he died on a Normandy beach.

At least all that moaning has gone this week. Yiipppppeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!