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Title: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: juddie on Monday, August 8, 2011, 08:53:34
Obviously most people have already summed up what I thought about first half/second half from the Crewe game in that matchday thread.

For me, it's one thing winning at home, but I think we'll learn a lot more from the games at Cheltenham and Daggers. Win them and we're on to something good.

So, judging by what you say on Saturday, what would your team be? i was impressed with McCormack and connell, so...

Smith

Caddis
Flint
Comazzi?
Kennedy

Ritchie
Risser
McCormack
Timlin - i would have Esejas over him. Timlin had a good game, but Esejas would give us natural width.

de Vita/Bodin
Connell

Thought Bodin had a good game, some neat touches. de vita held the ball up ok, but Connell seems like he'll get in dangerous areas more.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, August 8, 2011, 08:55:25
I would agree with that lineup. From the Cheltenham and Dagenham games I would think 4 points has to be a realistic target.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Processed Beats on Monday, August 8, 2011, 08:57:58
Generally agree with that Juddie but it's all down to whether Di Canio believes in the not changing a winning team cliche.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Muffin Man on Monday, August 8, 2011, 09:00:40
Well PdC has already said that as soon as Lanzano is fit then he will take the keeper spot, for that to not happen I think Smithy will have to play even more out of his skin otherwise he will be certainly displaced.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: DV on Monday, August 8, 2011, 09:13:26
Well PdC has already said that as soon as Lanzano is fit then he will take the keeper spot.

Has he?

After he started with Billy Bodin on Saturday, he was preaching the complete opposite.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, August 8, 2011, 09:15:56
Well PdC has already said that as soon as Lanzano is fit then he will take the keeper spot

I'm with DV, I recall nothing saying that. Sauce please.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 8, 2011, 09:21:49
I'm with DV, I recall nothing saying that. Sauce please.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9169991.Here_to_Phil_in/

It is only the Adver mind


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Monday, August 8, 2011, 09:31:31
i hope McCormack starts infront of smith tomorrow. Was very impressed when he came on agaist Crew.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 8, 2011, 09:47:56
I'd go with the same team as Juddie.

But its tricky this early into the season. Based on what we saw and what we know I'd have McCormack and Ferry as our starting middle two. I was not impressed with the starters.

Yet Risser must be better than he's shown or he wouldn't be captain. And Devera looked dodgy, yet he has a lot of league 2 experience and must be better than that to win a player of the year award.

We have to be mindful that the majority of the team have not played much league 2 football. There has to be an adjustment to get "match fit", adjust to the time and space available in this league.

I think if City put a decent team out we will struggle, but they are two leagues above so rightly so.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Muffin Man on Monday, August 8, 2011, 09:49:25
Has he?

After he started with Billy Bodin on Saturday, he was preaching the complete opposite.

I'm with DV, I recall nothing saying that. Sauce please.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9169991.Here_to_Phil_in/


Yep thats where I read it a week ago today.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, August 8, 2011, 09:55:42
Yep thats where I read it a week ago today.

In which case I don't think Smith will be turfed out without foundation. The Adver says Lanzano was bought in as number 1 and also says, "However, the former Crawley shotstopper feels that as soon as Lanzano is fit again, he will find himself back on the bench."

The way I see it is just because Wilson always dropped Phil when Lucas could be bothered, doesn't mean dC will when Lanzano is fit.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Muffin Man on Monday, August 8, 2011, 10:10:57
I think PdC should play whoever is in form, if thats Smith then great but if he has a dip in form then swap over, keep every player on their toes.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: juddie on Monday, August 8, 2011, 10:11:46
I think Smith's place is his to lose after saturday. Risser will keep his place because he's captain, although in taking him off PDC looked willing to look at the others.

i think J Smith will be biggest casualty from Sat. I like the look of him, but he had a poor game at the weekend.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Parkin09 on Monday, August 8, 2011, 10:26:27
from what I listened to and have seen, I agree about J Smith I can't see him playing Tuesday, I think De Vita needs a good game to stop Bodin from taking his place back when he returns, also can't see Comazzi not playing so expect Devera to get the boot as dropping Flint would be madness.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: wiggy on Monday, August 8, 2011, 10:27:01
This is a tough one, as I can't judge players on just one game.

If I was PdC I would be looking at the right back position as a possible change, and also look at starting Ferry in centre mid, as I think he is the one most likely to bring the ball forward and support the front 2.

I guess Connell will start with Kerrouch on the bench.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: DV on Monday, August 8, 2011, 10:34:47
Yep thats where I read it a week ago today.

“I said a few days ago we do not need a loan goalkeeper. We have Phil Smith and he has improved a lot,” said the Town boss.

“We wait for Mattia Lanzano and I do not want to bring anyone else here because it means they are not at a good level.

“I would prefer to give a chance to our own young players.

“I am happy with Phil Smith and I hope Mattia can recover very soon because then we will have two very good goalkeepers at the same level, which is good.”

Which bit of that translated to Lanzano is STFC number 1 and always will be no matter how Phil Smith plays?


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: juddie on Monday, August 8, 2011, 10:41:49
that was before playing well Saturday. PDC also said he'd be sending Bodin out on loan, but Bodin obviously impressed last week.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 8, 2011, 10:55:41
“I said a few days ago we do not need a loan goalkeeper. We have Phil Smith and he has improved a lot,” said the Town boss.

“We wait for Mattia Lanzano and I do not want to bring anyone else here because it means they are not at a good level.

“I would prefer to give a chance to our own young players.

“I am happy with Phil Smith and I hope Mattia can recover very soon because then we will have two very good goalkeepers at the same level, which is good.”

Which bit of that translated to Lanzano is STFC number 1 and always will be no matter how Phil Smith plays?

Quote
Smith has often expressed his happiness at being at Swindon, and insists that though he is unlikely to play much as things stand, he is not looking to move elsewhere.

“When the manager told me I explained that this is my club and my family are happy here,” he said.

This bit..


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: DV on Monday, August 8, 2011, 10:58:22
No it doesnt.



Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Weasel on Monday, August 8, 2011, 11:03:34
I'd like to see Devera at RB, was that his position at Barnet last season? I also prefer Caddis in a more advanced position, and i'd hate to see Flint dropped after his start so that would work out well. Switching Ritchie to the left would mean a bit more cutting in and shooting too, which wouldn't be a bad thing.

Smith

Devera
Flint
Comazzi
Kennedy

Caddis (RM)
Risser
McCormack / Smith
Ritchie (LM)

De Vita / Bodin
Connell


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Luci on Monday, August 8, 2011, 11:13:39
The only thing with Connell is whether he can keep that tempo for 90 minutes as I'm sure PDC said somewhere he was behind the others fitness wise - which is probably why he was on the bench Saturday...


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Muffin Man on Monday, August 8, 2011, 11:17:14
No it doesnt.




Jesus christ you are a blinkered twat arent you? its in black and white that Smith will not be first choice yet you still believe that you know best and that what the adver stats as fact is wrong? do you have a problem in being proved wrong?

Quote
Smith has often expressed his happiness at being at Swindon, and insists that though he is unlikely to play much as things stand, he is not looking to move elsewhere.


Does that not state clearly enough that he is not going to be classed as first choice?


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, August 8, 2011, 11:20:22

Jesus christ you are a blinkered twat arent you? its in black and white that Smith will not be first choice yet you still believe that you know best and that what the adver stats as fact is wrong? do you have a problem in being proved wrong?
 

Does that not state clearly enough that he is not going to be classed as first choice?

"As things stand".

I would suggest things stand differently now Smithy has played a blinder in the opening game. Not to say PDC won't still prefer Lanzano, but it'll certainly make his decision much harder.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: König on Monday, August 8, 2011, 11:21:48
the argument isn't about whether Smith is classed as number 1 but whether or not he'll keep his place when lanzano is fit, which many think he should based on his performance on saturday


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Power to people on Monday, August 8, 2011, 11:59:33
I don't think we will see many changes other than Connell coming in for Bodin - although I expect that Bodin is now gutted at being called up after getting the nod for the first game

I suspect though that PDC ma ychange personnel to suit the oposition if he thinks he needs to add something else in


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: MichaelPook on Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:03:12
Need to play some of the others on Tues

Smith

Thompson Flint Comazzi Kennedy

Atiku McCormack Ferry Timlin

Connell Bodin

Subs Bedwell Devera Caddis Risser J Smith Ritchie De Vita (i think its 7 subs for Carling cup?)


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: adje on Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:04:10
I'd like to see Devera at RB, was that his position at Barnet last season? I also prefer Caddis in a more advanced position, and i'd hate to see Flint dropped after his start so that would work out well. Switching Ritchie to the left would mean a bit more cutting in and shooting too, which wouldn't be a bad thing.

Smith

Devera
Flint
Comazzi
Kennedy

Caddis (RM)
Risser
McCormack / Smith
Ritchie (LM)

De Vita / Bodin
Connell


Timlin should definitely keep his place imo


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Luci on Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:08:57

Timlin should definitely keep his place imo

Completely agree.

Several Crewe fans also mentioned he put in a decent shift Saturday. 


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:11:38

Jesus christ you are a blinkered twat arent you? its in black and white that Smith will not be first choice yet you still believe that you know best and that what the adver stats as fact is wrong? do you have a problem in being proved wrong?
 
Does that not state clearly enough that he is not going to be classed as first choice?


Firstly, it does say he's not first choice. Which was never even disputed. Your original post didn't say, "Phil Smith is not number 1." Myself and DV then didn't start saying, yes he is...

I suggest you read back what you typed:

Well PdC has already said that as soon as Lanzano is fit then he will take the keeper spot

There is not one line in that article, as DV correctly mentioned, where it says PdC WILL be dropping Smith as soon as Lanzano is fit. Which, if you read back what you typed, is EXACTLY what you said. Incorrectly I might add.

Yes Phil Smith is number 2, which is not what any of us are disputing. What we're disputing is that PdC said PS will immediately be dropped once Lanzano is fit.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Arriba on Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:24:49
that article angered phil smith and his family as it was aload of bollocks concocted by the author of it.
he doesn't accept being no2 keeper at all and wants to play.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Berniman on Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:44:43
Barnet fans didn't rate Devera at RB, they said he was much better when moved to CB.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Muffin Man on Monday, August 8, 2011, 13:06:31
This forum is bloody good at welcoming newcomers, talk about cliquey, I have posted about 20 times and at least 3 of you have had a go at me FFS, OK maybe because i am new that my opinion doesnt count as much as your "longer members".

Dissappointing to say the least, I know its been mentioned before that new member are not welcomed and now I see how that feels, I have read this forum for many years and never posted before and this does go to prove that some of the older arguments about not welcoming new members is right.

Not every new member is a Pox fan out to disrupt things, some of us are genuine people and life long supporters of Swindon and not out to just have an argument.

Either that or I have jumped in on a day when several members are suffering from PMT.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Weasel on Monday, August 8, 2011, 13:13:55

Timlin should definitely keep his place imo

Who gets dropped ('going forward') for Comazzi then? Pretty sure it's not going to be Devera. Longer term, although I'd love Timlin to prove me wrong, I don't see him as a part of our midfield week-in, week-out.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Weasel on Monday, August 8, 2011, 13:15:39
This forum is bloody good at welcoming newcomers, talk about cliquey, I have posted about 20 times and at least 3 of you have had a go at me FFS, OK maybe because i am new that my opinion doesnt count as much as your "longer members".

Dissappointing to say the least, I know its been mentioned before that new member are not welcomed and now I see how that feels, I have read this forum for many years and never posted before and this does go to prove that some of the older arguments about not welcoming new members is right.

Not every new member is a Pox fan out to disrupt things, some of us are genuine people and life long supporters of Swindon and not out to just have an argument.

Either that or I have jumped in on a day when several members are suffering from PMT.

If you've come on here for high fives and e-hugs you're in the wrong place.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, August 8, 2011, 13:20:16
This forum is bloody good at welcoming newcomers, talk about cliquey, I have posted about 20 times and at least 3 of you have had a go at me FFS, OK maybe because i am new that my opinion doesnt count as much as your "longer members".

Dissappointing to say the least, I know its been mentioned before that new member are not welcomed and now I see how that feels, I have read this forum for many years and never posted before and this does go to prove that some of the older arguments about not welcoming new members is right.

Not every new member is a Pox fan out to disrupt things, some of us are genuine people and life long supporters of Swindon and not out to just have an argument.

Either that or I have jumped in on a day when several members are suffering from PMT.
If you think having an argument with DV is the victimisation of a newcomer you clearly haven't been reading long enough. Keep calm, carry on, and enjoy the banter... even if/when you're right and everybody else is stubbornly wrong :)


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, August 8, 2011, 13:26:12
This forum is bloody good at welcoming newcomers, talk about cliquey, I have posted about 20 times and at least 3 of you have had a go at me FFS, OK maybe because i am new that my opinion doesnt count as much as your "longer members".

Dissappointing to say the least, I know its been mentioned before that new member are not welcomed and now I see how that feels, I have read this forum for many years and never posted before and this does go to prove that some of the older arguments about not welcoming new members is right.

Not every new member is a Pox fan out to disrupt things, some of us are genuine people and life long supporters of Swindon and not out to just have an argument.

Either that or I have jumped in on a day when several members are suffering from PMT.

Haha. You've either misread the article or not explaining yourself very well. Barry has pointed this out, and I guess DV has too (though much more bluntly). No-ones victimising you at all - you've made a statement which appears very much wrong, and a couple others have pointed it out.

This place is nowhere as bad as it used to be


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, August 8, 2011, 13:34:23
This forum is bloody good at welcoming newcomers, talk about cliquey

It's nothing to do with being a newcomer. (Welcome by the way!) :D

For the record, in the clique, only OST can get away with posting anything and stating it as fact. Fact.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, August 8, 2011, 13:36:46
It's nothing to do with being a newcomer. (Welcome by the way!) :D

For the record, in the clique, only OST can get away with posting anything and stating it as fact. Fact.

No, no. I think you'll find it's

- FACT!


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Muffin Man on Monday, August 8, 2011, 14:00:27
Not here at all to be high fived, just feels a bit daunting for a newcomer as there does sometimes seem to be a put a wall up around yourselfs.

This is not a problem and I will enjoy the banter as thats what its about - FACT (see is that how its done OST?) :D

I may have missinterpreted the article or on the ther hand the Adver may have missreported what was said blah blah blah etc.

I just want us to be up there come May and with a steady keeper in place and I personally dont care which keeper that is as long as he gives his all for Swindon every game, we can all forgive some mistakes but not a mistake a game that our keepers seemed to do last season and that was in pretty much every game, and it was always punished.

Should be a little easier to get away with the occassional mistake in this league as the players are generally not of the same skill as the players in the league above.

Good luck to Smith and Lanzano and I hope the competition brings the best out of both players.



Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: luckyluke699 on Monday, August 8, 2011, 14:03:31
If you've come on here for high fives and e-hugs you're in the wrong place.

WTF is an e-hug? Can I have one please...? :D


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: MichaelPook on Monday, August 8, 2011, 14:52:45
Not here at all to be high fived, just feels a bit daunting for a newcomer as there does sometimes seem to be a put a wall up around yourselfs.

This is not a problem and I will enjoy the banter as thats what its about - FACT (see is that how its done OST?) :D

I may have missinterpreted the article or on the ther hand the Adver may have missreported what was said blah blah blah etc.

I just want us to be up there come May and with a steady keeper in place and I personally dont care which keeper that is as long as he gives his all for Swindon every game, we can all forgive some mistakes but not a mistake a game that our keepers seemed to do last season and that was in pretty much every game, and it was always punished.

Should be a little easier to get away with the occassional mistake in this league as the players are generally not of the same skill as the players in the league above.

Good luck to Smith and Lanzano and I hope the competition brings the best out of both players.



just keep on posting and eventually you will be accepted oh and accept the not so light hearted banter with the humour its intended - or just ignore it

OH Welcome btw!


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, August 8, 2011, 14:57:41
Fuck off Fatbury you peado.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 8, 2011, 14:59:13
Not here at all to be high fived, just feels a bit daunting for a newcomer as there does sometimes seem to be a put a wall up around yourselfs.

This is not a problem and I will enjoy the banter as thats what its about - FACT (see is that how its done OST?) :D

I may have missinterpreted the article or on the ther hand the Adver may have missreported what was said blah blah blah etc.

I just want us to be up there come May and with a steady keeper in place and I personally dont care which keeper that is as long as he gives his all for Swindon every game, we can all forgive some mistakes but not a mistake a game that our keepers seemed to do last season and that was in pretty much every game, and it was always punished.

Should be a little easier to get away with the occassional mistake in this league as the players are generally not of the same skill as the players in the league above.

Good luck to Smith and Lanzano and I hope the competition brings the best out of both players.



No you were right...insofar as you interpreted an Adver article how it was intended. If you are right then it doesn't much matter what others think as long as you've taken their arguments into account.  There isn't really a clique on here, more a fascist tendency, who react without due thought to counter argument.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, August 8, 2011, 15:16:27
There isn't really a clique on here, more a fascist tendency, who react without due thought to counter argument.
Oh fuck Reg you mentioned the f word. Who's going to fuck off now and delete their account.   


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, August 8, 2011, 15:21:22
that article angered phil smith and his family as it was aload of bollocks concocted by the author of it.
he doesn't accept being no2 keeper at all and wants to play.

Can definitely believe that. Did seem a bit of a coincidence that the official site posted a very contradictory interview with Smith the same day/day after.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, August 8, 2011, 18:23:59
Obviously most people have already summed up what I thought about first half/second half from the Crewe game in that matchday thread.

For me, it's one thing winning at home, but I think we'll learn a lot more from the games at Cheltenham and Daggers. Win them and we're on to something good.

So, judging by what you say on Saturday, what would your team be? i was impressed with McCormack and connell, so...

Smith

Caddis
Flint
Comazzi?
Kennedy

Ritchie
Risser
McCormack
Timlin - i would have Esejas over him. Timlin had a good game, but Esejas would give us natural width.

de Vita/Bodin
Connell


Thought Bodin had a good game, some neat touches. de vita held the ball up ok, but Connell seems like he'll get in dangerous areas more.

I predicted this very line up in the 'Likely team for Tuesday?' thread. I went for the Da Vita/Connell combo up front on the basis that Bodin is supposedly on U21 duty with the Taffies. I've not checked if that is correct though.

Di Canio won't mess around with the line up too much but improvements clearly need to be made and he's not found his best XI yet (not surprisingly). From the reports it sounds like De Vera and J Smith were not great so he'll be looking at those positions. Sounds like Risser needs a good performance. I think it's inevitable he'll be cut just a little more slack as Di Canio won't want to drop his skipper straight away. I'm sure he won't get too long though.


Title: Re: Line-up 'going forward'
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, August 8, 2011, 18:24:57
Oh yes.

One other thing.


FACT! 8)