Title: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 12:50:56 I have a problem with the radiator in my bedroom, Its not getting hot at all. Its just this one, the rest are fine, I've tried bleeding it but this hasn't made a difference, is there anything i can do/try before getting a professional in?
Its been like it for a while, never bothered me to be honest but the missus keeps moaning at me that she's cold. (wimp) Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 12:57:57 tell her to put another jumper on.
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 12:58:32 where is the radiator situated on your run
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 13:00:36 OK you bled the radiator, but what kind of boiler do you have? Have you checked the pressure is OK as it will drop now the radiator is bled?
Does it have a thermostat on the radiator itself? Maybe this is knackered? Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 13:00:49 tell her to put another jumper on. exactly, dont you think i've suggested that? hahaTitle: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 13:01:39 where is the radiator situated on your run ummmm pass, i have no idea, the boiler is in the kitchen downstairs at the back of the house, the said radiator is upstairs at the front. ?Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 13:02:10 OK you bled the radiator, but what kind of boiler do you have? Have you checked the pressure is OK as it will drop now the radiator is bled? i will check this when im home, but all other radiators work fine, its just 1 thats the issue.Does it have a thermostat on the radiator itself? Maybe this is knackered? Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 13:02:31 I had this problem Chubbs, my bedroom rad was only getting slightly warm at the bottom.
You just need a radiator key and as others have said just bleed it. Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: wiggy on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 13:03:51 My guess would be that the Thermostat on the radiator is knackered.
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 13:04:00 if it's an old system the rad could be full of shit and not letting the hot water through.
take the rad off and clean it out. But check pressure in your system first. at cold it should sit at 1Bar Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 13:06:41 I had this problem Chubbs, my bedroom rad was only getting slightly warm at the bottom. do you read ralphy? :-pYou just need a radiator key and as others have said just bleed it. Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 13:07:15 if it's an old system the rad could be full of shit and not letting the hot water through. take the rad off and clean it out. But check pressure in your system first. at cold it should sit at 1Bar My guess would be that the Thermostat on the radiator is knackered. thanks guys will have a look later Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 13:15:20 do you read ralphy? :-p Ah sorry, didn't read your whole post. Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 14:13:20 No need to bother until winter Chubbs.
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: spacey on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 14:16:14 Ah sorry, didn't read your whole post. Fuck's sake, Ralphy, it was hardly War and Peace Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: spacey on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 14:25:14 In fact for you to have not got to the point where he mentions that he's bled the radiator, you couldn't have made it beyond the first sentence.
Did you read the bit where Chubbs said "I have a problem with the radiator" and thought "Yeah, needs bleeding" It's not good enough, Ralphy! Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: blah blah on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 14:44:36 I've had the same thing with one particular radiator in the lounge for a couple of years now. I'VE ALREADY TRIED BLEEDING IT (for Ralphy!), and then tried turning off all other radiators in the house - when I do this it works fine. I think theres a problem with the pressure or the pump not quite being up to it, so after a bit of trial and error, by gradually turning down other radiators in the house (I haven't got thermostatic rad valves) I can get enough heat out of it to keep the wife happy. Not perfect, but good enough
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 14:52:59 I've had the same thing with one particular radiator in the lounge for a couple of years now. I'VE ALREADY TRIED BLEEDING IT (for Ralphy!), and then tried turning off all other radiators in the house - when I do this it works fine. I think theres a problem with the pressure or the pump not quite being up to it, so after a bit of trial and error, by gradually turning down other radiators in the house (I haven't got thermostatic rad valves) I can get enough heat out of it to keep the wife happy. Not perfect, but good enough ive got a few hours to spare so will give it a bash. Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 14:57:17 I'm sure you will, but the radiator needs fixing.
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: @MacPhlea on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 14:58:24 Have you got a thermostatic valve on it? Could be that it's just that this is stuck... you'll be able to turn it but remove the thermostat cover and see if you can push the needle valve up and down - if its stuck may just need a pair of pliers to gently pull it up and free it (it normally happens after they have been switched off a while)
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 15:29:27 i had exactly this problem and the fella i used balanced the radiators.problem solved.
i was at work so don't ask me how he did it.you deffo need someone out who knows what they are doing. why the fuck are you putting your heating on anyway? Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 15:35:33 So, did you try bleeding it ? :doh:
:) Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 17:08:44 i had exactly this problem and the fella i used balanced the radiators.problem solved. i was at work so don't ask me how he did it.you deffo need someone out who knows what they are doing. why the fuck are you putting your heating on anyway? dont you read either? its the missus, not me. I'm a stingy fucker and dont like putting the heating on in the winter. :-) Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 18:23:24 ok, so this seems to have turned into something more serious.
it would seem since bleeding the one radiator, the pressure has died and is siting at 0 bar. no hot water and no heat in any radiator. any ideas? Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 18:31:11 ok, so this seems to have turned into something more serious. it would seem since bleeding the one radiator, the pressure has died and is siting at 0 bar. no hot water and no heat in any radiator. any ideas? yeah, dont fix it yourself! call a chap in to do it, thats serious to lose all pressure. Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 18:31:58 ok, will do. cheers
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: woolster on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 18:33:23 ok, so this seems to have turned into something more serious. there should be a knob to put more water into the system, thus putting the pressure back up, watch the gauge and stop it around 1.5, the level must have been really low before you bled itit would seem since bleeding the one radiator, the pressure has died and is siting at 0 bar. no hot water and no heat in any radiator. any ideas? i take radiators off most days, its not uncommon for this to happen :D Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:05:20 there should be a knob to put more water into the system, thus putting the pressure back up, watch the gauge and stop it around 1.5, the level must have been really low before you bled it i'll get in touch with a a professional, i dont trust myself to do these things.i take radiators off most days, its not uncommon for this to happen :D Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:06:19 there should be a knob to put more water into the system, thus putting the pressure back up, watch the gauge and stop it around 1.5, the level must have been really low before you bled it i take radiators off most days, its not uncommon for this to happen :D When you coming to get your bag of plaster? :) Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:08:41 If i was you i would call them quickly mate.
They reckon it will be as low as 10 tonight. Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: leefer on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:18:06 If i was you i would call them quickly mate. They reckon it will be as low as 10 tonight. :D Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: woolster on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:36:31 When you coming to get your bag of plaster? :) sorry mate, will deffo get it tomorrow, didnt get home untill 630 :zzz:Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:44:26 No worries mate, i'm going out around 7:30ish to play footie
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:51:50 This poor cunts girlfriend is freezing to death and you are discussing bags of plaster?
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:53:10 I thought the problem was solved earlier on in the thread with the jumper solution, sorry!
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:54:47 OK, so ive been fiddling and found the reset button, this seems to have given me hot water back, but still no heating and pressure is still 0. The radiators seem to sound as if there is water flowing through them, so will keep the heating on for a bit see if anything changes.
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:55:24 Heating is slowly comming back too, but pressure still showing 0. hmmmm.
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 19:56:41 Better get a hot water bottle out tonight Chubbs, sounds like it's fucked.
;) Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 20:11:01 Heating is slowly comming back too, but pressure still showing 0. hmmmm. Probably an air lock in the heating system somewhere. Try bleeding all the other radiators. Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: spacey on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 20:13:36 What's happening now?! What's happening now?!
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 20:17:25 It's all gone off Spacey.Some poor bird has pheunomia scuppering chubbs plans of taking her back to poland and ginginho is selling plaster laced with smack.
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 20:59:58 OK, so ive been fiddling and found the reset button, this seems to have given me hot water back, but still no heating and pressure is still 0. The radiators seem to sound as if there is water flowing through them, so will keep the heating on for a bit see if anything changes. Pretty sure there will be a low pressure cut off which may stop the boiler functioning when the heating is due on. Putting water into the system to re-pressure is as easy as turning a tap on and off. On our Worcester Bosch one of the pipes going into it is the water fill pipe. Turn plastic valve on said pipe and it pressures up by putting water in, turn off when 1-1.5 bar. When heating is on pressure will rise slightly so don't over fill or you'll be bleeding the radiator again. What boiler is it, we may be able to find the water inlet valve from an instruction manual! Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 21:06:15 there should be a knob to put more water into the system, thus putting the pressure back up, watch the gauge and stop it around 1.5, the level must have been really low before you bled it i take radiators off most days, its not uncommon for this to happen :D for building the pressure up after bleeding the radiator the above is right. there should be a tap(or 2 close together) underneath the boiler to do this.loosen the tap and watch the pressure rise then turn the tap off. that doesn't solve the earlier problem which was mentioned earlier.your rads need balancing. call a plumbing and heating engineer. i use gv hall.01793852477 i strongly suggest you do not bleed anymore radiators. and yes i can fucking read Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 21:08:11 that doesn't solve the earlier problem which i mentioned earlier.your rads need balancing. Or the stat is stuck closed Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 21:09:50 or as its summer the rads are rebelling against being turned on
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 21:13:24 or as its summer the rads are rebelling against being turned on :) This is true. Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 21:35:12 do you reckon he's flooded the house or blown it up yet?
we need updates damn it... Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 21:47:25 He's probably not allowed on the internet until he's fixed it.
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 21:50:51 i reckon his girlfirend wont get naked until the heating is fixed hence his desperate attempts to fix it.
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: leefer on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 21:58:52 [url width=466 height=350]http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad185/swindon123/nm_shocked.jpg[/url]
Last picture of Chubbs looking for the heating problem,think it was about to blow ;D Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: deltaincline on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 22:20:27 If the pressure on your system is at zero - I'm assuming you have a combi boiler - as others have said, just re-pressurise the heating circuit via the cold water filling loop / flow / return pipework which will be under the boiler.
The flow and return pipes will be 22mm size and one of them will have a union that is connected to the cold water feed (15mm). Pump it up to around 1 - 1.5 bar or within the limits indicated on the pressure guage on the boiler. Dont worry too much about where the water has gone for the pressure to have dropped. Most of it just evaporates via micro leaks that will be impossible to detect. The filling loop is there to be used, so use it. If you over pressurise the boiler it will just vent off any exess water via a dump valve on the outside wall - unless the boiler was installed by a fuckwitt, in which case you could get a rusty water makeover wherever the thing is situated. Most modern combi's are listed online. If you get stuck, dont call an engineer out, just ring the manufacturers. They'll always talk a consumer through the procedure over the phone. Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, June 23, 2011, 06:19:48 Where's the morning update?
Did she make it through the night!? Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 23, 2011, 06:47:57 Heating is slowly comming back too, but pressure still showing 0. hmmmm. you need to put more water in your system. Not enough pressure to get to all radiators. Follow Deltas steps and everything should be fine. but it may also be useful to go round all the rads to see if they need bleeding Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Arriba on Friday, June 24, 2011, 22:23:04 i wonder how this went? aint read nothing in the adver about a house blowing up
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 25, 2011, 06:27:51 Perhaps they are now just little blocks of ice.
Though Chubbs profile says he was last active "Friday, June 24, 2011, 18:28:06" Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Ralphy on Saturday, June 25, 2011, 06:43:56 Meant to be 27 degrees tomorrow and Monday, reckon he'll turn the heating down a notch ?
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Chubbs on Saturday, June 25, 2011, 18:08:13 Glad to see you've all be worried sick about me. All seems to be working ok for now thanks for the help, might still get someone to come and have a look.
Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: stfcinbmth on Saturday, June 25, 2011, 18:23:41 Meant to be 27 degrees tomorrow and Monday Oh shit let's hope so, fed up with this cruddy weather Title: Re: FTAO: Heating/Plumbing guru's Post by: Arriba on Saturday, June 25, 2011, 22:31:33 boooo.what a let down that was
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