Title: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: herthab on Monday, June 6, 2011, 18:30:02 There's been a lot of criticism about the silence from the club recently. Just wondered what everyone else thought.....
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: RJack on Monday, June 6, 2011, 18:32:03 Most people at the club are on their Hols so news is slow
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, June 6, 2011, 18:40:11 Pisses me off 'cos I don't know.
But that doesn't think I should be told anything yet anyway. Just impatience. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 6, 2011, 18:46:43 I'm not being impatient.
However, as I mentioned before, the club under the current board have a reputation of being slow within the transfer market. This does leave me cautious/nervous! As we all know, we cannot afford to be left behind this summer. In fairness, people are still on holiday. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Batch on Monday, June 6, 2011, 18:53:32 I agree with Constanza.
We may end up signing 10 brilliant players. But we haven't yet, so I'm nervous. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, June 6, 2011, 18:59:53 I said in another thread that notihng ever really happens until lateJune early July anyway. I'm not getting too worried just yet. There are still 2 motnhs before the first ball is kicked anyway an d most pllayers and managers are on holiday.
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Ralphy on Monday, June 6, 2011, 19:00:40 I'm impatient and demand players tomorrow !
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, June 6, 2011, 19:02:13 I can cope with the silence. I can't cope with the recycled regurgitated shit from the adver, I'd rather they gave no news than old news.
I just hope the club shop are ordering plenty of vowels for the new players that are booking their flights as I type. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, June 6, 2011, 19:08:13 No need to panic, but we need to be signing 3 or 4 players in the first week of July. If the signings dont start that week then we're in trouble.
But I am sure players will sign for Di Canio. Seems we are back in bed with football agents as well. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Ralphy on Monday, June 6, 2011, 19:13:47 Is Di Canio actually 'at work' now or away on his hols ??
I mean, will he be sat in the manager's office on the dog and bone sorting stuff out or are they not due back until June 27th like the players ? Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Dazzza on Monday, June 6, 2011, 19:33:06 Nothing worse than leaked names and done deals turning out to be nothing or even worse an agent leveraging a little publicity at the club’s expense. Better no news than half a dozen false dawns.
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, June 6, 2011, 19:36:26 Theo Robinson springs to mind here
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 6, 2011, 19:49:51 Remember the Charlie Mulgrew saga :)
Ended up at Aberdeen and now playing for Celtic. Funniest thing about that was the bickering between us and Southend fans about who was bigger and better... ...both now in Divvy 4 ::) Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Huwwy on Monday, June 6, 2011, 19:54:40 Is Di Canio actually 'at work' now or away on his hols ?? I mean, will he be sat in the manager's office on the dog and bone sorting stuff out or are they not due back until June 27th like the players ? If he is, I hope the phone in the manager's office is not still that crappy old beige BT one from the Lou Macari days! I remember a really cheesy photo of him pretending to use it on his manager's notes page in the programme. I bet most of his calls were to the Brunel Rooms and Level Three, checking out which of the players were out on the town! Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: mrverve on Monday, June 6, 2011, 20:06:50 I wouldn't worry too much. The majority of the players are on holiday at the moment aswell. We've got 2 months to get the players in. Let's all have some faith (at least until the beginning of July, then we can start to get a little bit worried!)
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Arriba on Monday, June 6, 2011, 20:24:24 what is the club meant to be saying? have i missed something?
if it's the lack of players coming in then its very early days.di canio has been here 5 minutes, so the lack of movement doesn't surprise me. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: MichaelPook on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 07:31:21 I selected the moany option
being here for a short period is no excuse - Buckle has been at Rovers less time and signed 2 already Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 07:44:47 Why are Swindon fans such moaners?! It's the same every year. If we signed any players as soon as the season ends people moan. We have a brand new manager who hasn't even seen the squad as the players are still on holiday!! Things take time. We have two months to go til the start of the season!!
As for the board being quiet, well we've had a lot of hype of the new manager? What are people expecting? The board to make announcements on a daily basis?! Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 08:06:19 Silence from the club doesnt bother me as they are keeping their cards close to their chest. Its the fact that PDC seems to be in Italy all the time that does. IMO he should be getting stuck in to the job over here, meeting and building rapports with staff, coaches, scouts etc instead of sitting back in Italy picking up a pay cheque, he talks a good game but does he think he is bigger than the club already???
Is he going to have Bodin take training all week, fly back into the UK for the game then fuck off back to Italy again after the match and let Bodin or his number 2 to pre and post game interviews?? On the flip side I suppose he could be sat at home in Italy and forming his own opinions of players by watching videos etc without the interference of others? OK Early days but to me he seems rather disinterested at the minute. I am sure I am completely wrong and talking shit but still.....seems like he has only been in the UK 2 days since accepting the job. PDC should be getting the cunts back early for pre-season training after relegation!! Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 08:07:47 I selected the moany option being here for a short period is no excuse - Buckle has been at Rovers less time and signed 2 already can you just forget about rovers now please? Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 08:11:19 I selected the moany option being here for a short period is no excuse - Buckle has been at Rovers less time and signed 2 already In fairness though Buckle knows this league, PDC doesn't. Buckle already had those players in mind prior to the end of the season and would have tried to sign them whether he stayed at Torquay or went to Rovers so hardly a fair comparison. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 08:11:47 Gaz, you need to get a grip. What a stupid post. Re-read it. Talk about getting on the blokes back.
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Langers on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 08:13:47 I'm not worried just very impaitent :)
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 08:23:01 Gaz, you need to get a grip. What a stupid post. Re-read it. Talk about getting on the blokes back. your right, sorry MichaelPook didn't mean to get on your back! :)Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 08:24:59 think you missed the point there gaz... :)
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Bathtime on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 08:25:29 Got to be pretty normal at this time of year give it a month when holidays are over and some more players have left the club. Have to enjoy this moment as the expectation of the coming season builds as we wait to see who we will get on board...just impatient to find out what`s going to happen....
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 08:59:21 think you missed the point there gaz... :) Nah I didnt mate! Was trying to be clever!! Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 09:02:21 think sippo meant don't get on pdc's back, not fat's. ie the longer post
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 09:08:44 think sippo meant don't get on pdc's back, not fat's. ie the longer post He did and I knew that, was trying to be clever saying it was Fatters. I knew right away he meant PDC! :) Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 09:20:56 ah, gotcha
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: fuzzy on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 09:23:46 Being a moany cunt, I voted for the moany cunt option. I do think a trick is being missed however.
Where is the option for Pisses me off because it encourages pointless moany cunt polls on interweb fora? ;) Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 09:28:44 where is the option for
"everyones on holiday but whoever generated this poll is an impatient bastard and i couldn't give a fuck" Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Phil_S on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 10:14:28 Where's the option for "I'm not pissed off at all, as I would rather wait & get the right players than sign useless players to keep some people happy"
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Tails on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 15:35:08 Where's the option for, "None of the above but my god I hope some other posters come up with their own"?
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 15:54:30 It was always going to be the case, that with an appointment like di Canio, player recruitment would be done on the hoof through an agent....conventional wisdom says this isn't the way to do it, but we'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 16:34:46 Did Wise and Poyet go down the same route?
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 16:40:04 brez's agent 'owed wise a favour' i seem to remember
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: herthab on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 16:45:05 Where's the option for, "None of the above but my god I hope some other posters come up with their own"? It was meant as an ironic poll, created due to all the moany bastards! Maybe it was too subtle...... Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 17:11:02 It was always going to be the case, that with an appointment like di Canio, player recruitment would be done on the hoof through an agent....conventional wisdom says this isn't the way to do it, but we'll just have to wait and see. I dont like the way this elitetheagents are acting on twitter. They are basically using it as a tool to manipulate the fans to put pressure on the club. Its not even a decent football agency. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 17:21:19 I dont like the way this elitetheagents are acting on twitter. They are basically using it as a tool to manipulate the fans to put pressure on the club. How can that be so when they are saying that the deals are in the pipeline? If anything they are placating the fans by re-assuring them that players are coming. As for whether they are any good or not......... I really just don't know. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 17:43:52 How can that be so when they are saying that the deals are in the pipeline? If anything they are placating the fans by re-assuring them that players are coming. As for whether they are any good or not......... I really just don't know. You wait until the negotiations start. Until its all signed, the less the fans know about it the better. Any leaking of negotiations/targets does the club no good at all. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 17:50:12 But Di Canio and the club have already said we're looking at a number of players, and we all know that means negotiations. It's no secret and every club there is is doing the same.
I also think these agents act like tools at times. But I don't see how they've said anything the club haven't already said themselves. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 17:52:30 But Di Canio and the club have already said we're looking at a number of players, and we all know that means negotiations. It's no secret and every club there is is doing the same. I also think these agents act like tools at times. But I don't see how they've said anything the club haven't already said themselves. Looking at players doesn't mean negotiations at all. In talks with players would. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 17:57:36 *** STOP THE PRESS*** IT HAS BEEN REVEALED THAT A FOOTBALL CLUB IS TRYING TO SIGN PLAYERS *** STOP THE PRESS*** [/size][/size]They are hardly telling us something that we don't already know Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:03:18 *** STOP THE PRESS*** IT HAS BEEN REVEALED THAT A FOOTBALL CLUB IS TRYING TO SIGN PLAYERS *** STOP THE PRESS*** [/size][/size]They are hardly telling us something that we don't already know I dont know what point you are trying to make? Just inane rambling with no reason at all. Its pretty obvious that any agent activity is designed to increase player wages and agents fee's, because that is the reason they exist. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:06:59 People are going on as if these agents are revealing inside secrets of the club.
In reality they are just stating the bleedin obvious, that's my point. Of course we are looking at <pedantry> in negotiations with </pedantry> players. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:13:16 Why is it that this is being put out with great regularity in a public domain by a third party though, one which has no obligation to continually announce this. It makes them seem unproffesional, and ruins our image aswell imo
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:18:37 I think they're tits.
But if saying something that we already know is all we have against them, I think we have nothing to worry about* *I hold the right to reserve judgement until we get some players in. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:19:32 People are going on as if these agents are revealing inside secrets of the club. In reality they are just stating the bleedin obvious, that's my point. Of course we are looking at <pedantry> in negotiations with </pedantry> players. They said they were going to announce STFC's new manager the day before Di Canio was announced as manager. That would be OK if that was just rumour and conjecture. But as Di Canio's agent they were right there in the negotiations. It was not their place to announce Di Canio as Swindon's manager. What if talks had broken down? What if Di Canio had wanted too much money and the club had moved on to someone else? Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:22:45 They said they were going to announce STFC's new manager the day before Di Canio was announced as manager. That would be OK if that was just rumour and conjecture. But as Di Canio's agent they were right there in the negotiations. It was not their place to announce Di Canio as Swindon's manager. What if talks had broken down? What if Di Canio had wanted too much money and the club had moved on to someone else? I agree that was twatish of them, and that they are quite twatish in general. But I don't see the harm in them saying we are looking to get some players in. It's hardly ground breaking stuff. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:24:33 Di Canio aside, he's not saying anything of note and I don't recall ever reading "SWINDON FANS WATCH THIS SPACE. Signin comin soapy tit wank". The managerial stuff could have been done and dusted behind-the-scenes when he called it. Perhaps this is the way of the football world now. I'm surprised we don't know more than we do.
People ask this agent chap questions which is fair enough and he replies with yes, no or maybe. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:26:22 [/size][/size] Don't worry BR, size isn't everything. On Elite agents. I find the way they conduct their business very unprofessional. But I still can't help looking at their tweets for information. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:34:30 I agree that was twatish of them, and that they are quite twatish in general. But I don't see the harm in them saying we are looking to get some players in. It's hardly ground breaking stuff. You are doing my head in. Wasting my time. Bye. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:37:19 Oh dear.
Cya Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Tails on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 18:59:02 It was meant as an ironic poll, created due to all the moany bastards! Maybe it was too subtle...... I know, I got that!! Mine was an ironic post, created due to all the moany bastards! Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 19:24:06 Looks like their page has been deleted now anyway.
I'm still trying to figure out how repeating what everybody else already knows anyway can possibly manipulate anything? Twatish and unprofessional, yeah. Manipulative, how? Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 19:41:03 I don't get the fuss to be honest had a look at a few other agents on there and they are no different.
Weird how they seem to be getting loads of shit yet when the Adver report on friday we should be expecting signings on friday nothing is said. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 19:55:09 I might make up a talent agency twitter account and say that the xyz production company are on the look out for actors/performers etc. I might even say they are in or are due to have discussions with a few.
That'll throw the cat among the pigeons. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: corner on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 19:57:15 Looks like their page has been deleted now anyway. his page is still there, Its now, AgentDarrenI'm still trying to figure out how repeating what everybody else already knows anyway can possibly manipulate anything? Twatish and unprofessional, yeah. Manipulative, how? Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 19:59:59 his page is still there, Its now, AgentDarren Cheers Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 20:20:03 I don't get the fuss to be honest had a look at a few other agents on there and they are no different. Weird how they seem to be getting loads of shit yet when the Adver report on friday we should be expecting signings on friday nothing is said. The Adver are not involved in the discussions and they are not seeking to gain directly from the deals. Big difference. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: adje on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 20:21:52 Can we have a "sounds like music to your ears cos no news is good news" option?
Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 20:28:55 The Adver are not involved in the discussions and they are not seeking to gain directly from the deals. Big difference. What some of us are trying to figure out Spencer is how their tweets could affect any deal! Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: wiggy on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 20:33:18 What some of us are trying to figure out Spencer is how their tweets could affect any deal! I can imagine them saying in negotiations "Your fans tell us through Twitter that they are desperate for signings to be made, so you should meet "x" price". Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 20:34:15 The Adver are not involved in the discussions and they are not seeking to gain directly from the deals. Big difference. But have these agents revealed any names Spencer. Either way will agree to disagree on this one buddy.Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 20:39:41 But have these agents revealed any names Spencer. Either way will agree to disagree on this one buddy. If you look at his feed he is revealing giving the yes, no, maybe nod about players at other clubs. So I should think that he will be doing that about Swindon targets soon. He got rid of that @Elitetheagents name about 20 minutes after I posted that he was only working on twitter to manipulate the fans of football clubs. Something to hide? Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 20:43:14 I can imagine them saying in negotiations "Your fans tell us through Twitter that they are desperate for signings to be made, so you should meet "x" price". Anyone who has ever done any negotiating knows that your position is weakened if disclosures are being made about the deals and the likelyhood of them happening from people on the inside. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 20:43:45 I know you seem to want to ignore (has he ignored me) Spence, but I'll ask again.
How could their tweets possibly affect any deal? How? Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 20:44:36 Anyone who has ever done any negotiating knows that your position is weakened if disclosures are being made about the deals and the likelyhood of them happening from people on the inside. There's no disclosure though is there? Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 00:53:59 There's no disclosure though is there? And herein lies why I think this bloke is annoying. He's feeding the fans with shit information I know something but I'm not going to tell you what it is. Wow. Exciting. Don't understand why he needs to involve any football fans. Title: Re: Does The Silence From The Club.... Post by: Spencer_White on Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 17:20:11 I didnt realise this bloke had already been discussed in the twitter thread.
Not comfortable with him being close to the club at all. |