Title: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: News Monkey on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 09:00:01 Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern?
The week-long process of interviewing potential candidates for the vacant manager’s position at Swindon Town is over, and within days fans will finally learn who is tasked with the job of leading the Robins to promotion from League Two. http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9028074.Di_Canio_political_beliefs_a_cause_for_concern_/?ref=rss Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Nemo on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 09:00:49 Oh Adver, you shameless shit stirrers.
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: tans on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 09:06:47 Quite
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: magicroundabout on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 09:07:10 Think this rule PDC out. Especially as a sponsor has said they'd pull out if he was in charge.
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 09:10:42 It must be so easy being an Adver journo, read what we're debating on here, and about 48 hours later, write an article, and wait for the mongs to respond.
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: BANGKOK RED on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 09:16:45 Nice of you to mention that the majority couldn't give a flying fuck, eh adver!
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Wiggler on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 09:21:03 "...one Fan (who no longer lives in Swindon or attends matches) wrote to us at Adver Towers proclaiming he would not set foot in Swindon again if Di Canio was appointed."
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 10:19:17 "...one Fan (who no longer lives in Swindon or attends matches) wrote to us at Adver Towers proclaiming he would not set foot in Swindon again if Di Canio was appointed." One of the best lines EVER in the Adver! Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 12:25:41 He has political beliefs? Suprised someone hasn't mentioned that on here already.
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Arriba on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 13:25:57 the adver should pay this forum for all their rumours and stories.
we get in there first though! Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 13:45:36 alas, the Adver will still break the big stories before we can ever be certain...
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 13:53:35 Nice of you to mention that the majority couldn't give a flying fuck, eh adver! Take it you're being sarcastic but they did. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: The Grim Reaper on Saturday, May 14, 2011, 14:11:07 Think this rule PDC out. Especially as a sponsor has said they'd pull out if he was in charge. A sponsor that sponsors a reserve team player. Big loss. Samsung said its up to Swindon who they see fit to manage the team, not them or other sponsorers. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Dorset Red on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:28:30 I've been following the town for over 30 years and WONT renew my season ticket if Di Canio becomes manager (no matter HOW good he is). There is no room for facism or a man who admires Mussolini at my club!
Millions of people died as a result of the rise of facism. This is far too big an issue for some fans to "not give a flying f*ck" about. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:42:19 I want him. We need the excitement.
Take the risk, put us back on the football map! Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: LucienSanchez on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:51:15 I've been following the town for over 30 years and WONT renew my season ticket if Di Canio becomes manager (no matter HOW good he is). There is no room for facism or a man who admires Mussolini at my club! Millions of people died as a result of the rise of facism. This is far too big an issue for some fans to "not give a flying f*ck" about. To be fair, that was ages ago, and they've not really done much genocide recently..... Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:52:28 To be fair, that was ages ago, and they've not really done much genocide recently..... :fishing:Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:34:59 I want him. We need the excitement. Take the risk, put us back on the football map! Spot on. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:44:55 I can understand why people wouldnt want to come. But I also think we should allow people to have their own opinions outside of the workplace.
Has Di Canio ever had problems with black players in England? Would it affect his ability to do the job? I dont think it would. He does come from a country where extreme politics is much more common, left and right. If anything Id worry more about the affect on the behaviour of our own fans, whose treatment of a few black players was not great this season. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: tans on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:47:55 I want him.
But the hammers have just sacked old avram, think that will put a spanner in the works Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:48:11 If his political beliefs had any bearing on the job (e.g. having a problem with Blacks) then he should not be chosen. Personally, I'm not convinced they would.
I think the risk we would be a stepping stone is far greater. But that's true of almost anyone we employ. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:49:16 I can understand why people wouldnt want to come. But I also think we should allow people to have their own opinions outside of the workplace. That'd carry more weight if he'd kept them outside the workplaceTitle: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Power to people on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 19:07:49 I couldn't give a shit about his political views as long as they do not interfere with his ability to manage the team then what does it matter.
Those that are against his beliefs or alleged beliefs I sure would return if we was riding high at the top of the table - time will tell Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 19:36:25 I want him. But the hammers have just sacked old avram, think that will put a spanner in the works Can't see West Ham taking the risk on him yet. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:07:46 That'd carry more weight if he'd kept them outside the workplace Absolutely. Giving roman salutes ON THE PITCH is pretty much carrying your beliefs into the workplace! The man is a facist and I would NEVER pass through the turnstiles of a Town game as long as he was manager if he were to be appointed. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:12:34 I couldn't give a shit about his political views as long as they do not interfere with his ability to manage the team then what does it matter. Those that are against his beliefs or alleged beliefs I sure would return if we was riding high at the top of the table - time will tell These are not alledged beliefs. He is a self-professed facist and totally unapologetic about it. If Di Canio is ok for you, then who else would you accept if they were good at the game? Peter Sutcliffe? Fred West? Pol Pot? Bin Laden? Robert Mugabe? Gary Glitter? A bit of a silly list I know, but there are times when you have to accept that some things are bigger than football. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: tans on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:29:28 Ok, would you have hoddle back, due to his beliefs about disabled people?
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:31:42 If he came here and the media focus was on the football and he didn't publicly make reference to any political beliefs then I honestly wouldn't be bothered.
I can see why some people would be bothered though which is fair enough. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:46:54 These are not alledged beliefs. He is a self-professed facist and totally unapologetic about it. A silly list indeed.Some would also say fucking pointlessIf Di Canio is ok for you, then who else would you accept if they were good at the game? Peter Sutcliffe? Fred West? Pol Pot? Bin Laden? Robert Mugabe? Gary Glitter? A bit of a silly list I know, but there are times when you have to accept that some things are bigger than football. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: pauld on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:55:47 If Di Canio is ok for you, then who else would you accept if they were good at the game? Peter Sutcliffe? Nah, Peter Sutcliffe will be going for the Hammers jobTitle: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:10:19 These are not alledged beliefs. He is a self-professed facist and totally unapologetic about it. If Di Canio is ok for you, then who else would you accept if they were good at the game? Peter Sutcliffe? Fred West? Pol Pot? Bin Laden? Robert Mugabe? Gary Glitter? A bit of a silly list I know, but there are times when you have to accept that some things are bigger than football. All those have done something tangibly wrong, therefore that list is ridiculous. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:12:19 All those have done something tangibly wrong, therefore that list is ridiculous. And so has Di Caniohttp://cms.442.haymarketnetwork.com/contentimages/blog/SerieAaaaargh/Di-Canio.jpg http://bestfootballers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/dicanio1.jpg He proudly claims to be a facist (although he somehow manages to separate facism and racism!) and is lauded by organisations such as Stormfront (a white supremacist organisation). Is that wrong enough for you? Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:16:11 If you equate making a salute with murdering your daughter, fucking kids, terrorism, doing a rape/murder on hookers, then i think you need to have a look at what you stand for.
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:16:30 In your opinion not by the letter of english law if you want to be pedantic
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: tans on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:18:47 If you equate making a salute with murdering your daughter, fucking kids, terrorism, doing a rape/murder on hookers, then i think you need to have a look at what you stand for. I concur fella Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:21:24 If you equate making a salute with murdering your daughter, fucking kids, terrorism, doing a rape/murder on hookers, then i think you need to have a look at what you stand for. It's not the salute.... it's what the salute means! And yes I DO equate that salute with mass murder, rape, terrorism and genocide.Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:22:31 In your opinion not by the letter of english law if you want to be pedantic I think you'll find that anti-semitism and genocide ARE in fact illegal.Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:24:41 I think you'll find that anti-semitism and genocide ARE in fact illegal. Oh right and your link alludes to Di Canio doing that does it. Who did he kill.This argument is actually really fucking boring now Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:27:30 Oh right and your link alludes to Di Canio doing that does it. Who did he kill. There is no way you can separate the facist salute from what facists did and what facism means. It's plain and simple. Di Canio is a facist. Facism is wrong. I can not support a facist. If the argument is fucking boring there is nobody forcing you to continue to take part in it. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:30:00 I think you'll find that anti-semitism and genocide ARE in fact illegal. Yeah. But political beliefs are not, are they?. This topic has already been done a death anyway, did you choose to just ignore all of that? Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: pauld on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:32:14 Dorset, I'm on your side in this in terms of being resolutely opposed to Di Canio being allowed to besmirch the club and for the same reasons. But please, this really has been done to death (not least by me, Bangkok Red, Lumps, mrverve et al). Can we not let it lie till Wednesday (or whenever we know who the new manager is) at least?
Fully support your right to have your say on the issue, but have a look back through the various threads on this and I think most of it has already been covered. Three or four times. Oh, and for Christ's sake, at least spell fascist correctly. There's an "s" in it :) Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:34:21 But political beliefs are not, are they?. they are if they lead you to contravene the law. Im pretty sure that "the final solution" (one of the corner stones of faScism ;)) could be considered illegal.Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: nevillew on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:37:03 they are if they lead you to contravene the law. Im pretty sure that "the final solution" (one of the corner stones of faScism ;)) could be considered illegal. That's not a capital 'S' by the way. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: nevillew on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:37:32 Nah, Peter Sutcliffe will be going for the Hammers job Tasteless, but inspired. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:38:20 Paul, I know this has been discussed in other threads but I am just gobsmacked that we can actually have apologists for a NAZI on our forums.
Personally I think there is little, if any chance of him becoming our next manager but sometimes things need to be said.... and said..... and said. If I were to deliver the same salute as Di Canio in my profession I would be sacked immediately (and rightly so). Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:39:23 Tasteless, but inspired. I hang my head in shame at the fact that I smirked at that one too!Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Sippo on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:40:38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnNhzgcWTk
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: pauld on Monday, May 16, 2011, 09:54:40 Tasteless, but inspired. Thanks, nev. I may have that put on my gravestoneTitle: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: Ironside on Monday, May 16, 2011, 10:39:43 I wanted Burley as manager but after this, I am all in favour of Di Canio getting the job.
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, May 16, 2011, 13:09:59 :zzz:
Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: donkey on Monday, May 16, 2011, 14:59:12 Thanks, nev. I may have that put on my gravestone You'd be half-right. Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio political beliefs a cause for concern? Post by: nevillew on Monday, May 16, 2011, 15:24:54 Thanks, nev. I may have that put on my gravestone Surely, that'd be 'tasteless, but interred' ? |