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Di Canio emerges as surprise favourite
           

  Paolo di Canio has emerged as a shock favourite to be named the next manager of Swindon Town with one bookmaker following a flurry of bets on the fiery Italian yesterday.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9015303.Di_Canio_emerges_as_surprise_favourite/?ref=rss
           

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/238404/Paolo-Di-Canio-turns-down-new-manager-s-rolePaolo-Di-Canio-turns-down-new-manager-s-role

He said: “I don’t like to say the name of the club, not a big club. It was a good situation for me and it made me feel positive, but I prefer to wait.”

If he turned a league 1 club down (possibly us) why would he come this time round?

If he was hired as manager I think I'd like some of what Jeremy Wray was smoking.

No way the board will take such a risk in what is a huge season for the club.

I think we should give Bodin a chance.  In his two games (which admittedly were worthless) he got us a win and a good first half performance.  He's done well with the youth team and is town through and though. 

Do we really want a manager who doesn't really care about the town?

What, like Macari, or Ardiles, or Hoddle?

Yes please.

They might if they think it will put bums on seats. Personally I'd go for an experienced man.

But lets be honest, this is a guff anyway. It won't be Di Canio.

I find the rumour pretty stunning, if the appointment were to happen i would need to be peeled off the floor.

I'm staggered by the number of our fans who still rate a Swindon connection as an important attribute for a future manager.  Why?!  Please, why?  The only recent examples of managerial appointments with a previous connection that I can think of are Jimmy Quinn and Iffy Onoura.  Top blokes, both of them...who did a great job for us as players.  But as managers, they were duds.  The managers in hertha's list were thoroughbreds by comparison.

I'm not saying that a Town connection should prevent a candidate from putting themselves forward.  All I am saying is that if, for example, Paul Bodin never had scored that penalty at Wembley - or if Paul Trollope was not a Town fan - would we be considering these chaps for the post.  If the answer is yes...then great.  But you have to put the blinkers on and ignore such romantic considerations when making an appointment.

I'd agree the Town connection is irrelevant. Fact is any manager will leave to go to a bigger club. Even Bodin. Equally if it all goes tits up they may get a bit more time out the fans but ultimately it'll end the same way as every other unsuccessful manager. But maybe with sadness rather than animosity.

It would be great to be successful under one of "our own", but quite frankly its more important just to get success - without heart ruling the head.

Because he was interviewed for the Newport county job and was gong to take it until his father became ill, we are bigger than them...just

Di Canio? Newport County? Where did this come from?

Newport aren't a league 1 club. Read the article.  ;)

That story is from early April. Meaning in all likelihood it happened in March, when Wilson resigned. How many other league 1 clubs were looking for a manager in March?

Found the Newport link:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/newport-county-fc/2011/03/19/county-miss-out-on-di-canio-after-former-star-s-father-taken-ill-91466-28364391/

Crackers!!!

Di Canio ? that would be a risk, but I suppose it would be a risk with whoever is appointed manager, I'd like a young up and coming manager with an experienced No 2 and perhaps Bodin as 1st team coach to give him more experience at senior level

I can only think of Bristol Rovers and Notts County

Charlton?

Brentford?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/newport-county-fc/2011/03/19/county-miss-out-on-di-canio-after-former-star-s-father-taken-ill-91466-28364391/

Owned ;)

The article I was talking about was to do with a league 1 club. You mentioned Newport not me. So actually no.

Ardiles, as usual, the voice of sanity. Yourself and Arriba consistently the best posters on this site IMO.

Bodin would be just as big a gamble as Di Canio, if not bigger..
Somebody with proven experience with a few contacts please Jeremy

Ardiles and Arriba smell.

Ahhh yes, three managers who had little if any managerial experience before coming to the town. Three managers who seemed a huge risk at the time. We could also include Steve McMahon in that list too, (remember him? He won us a trophy too you know).

None of the managers in the list above had anything that Paul Bodin doesn't have. I think we should give him a go, (pehaps in partnership with Martin Ling).

I don't want Bodin to get the job out of fear of the fans turning on him. I'd hate that to happen to a true ledge!

Jesus, don't give him a big head.

The only reason he (Ardiles) posts sense is unlike the rest of us, he's retained some sanity and patience by witnessing only 90 minutes of football since Wembley. Even for that solitary game, I was about 1400 miles away and had a better idea of what was going on on the pitch, mainly because he was battered.

There are several "categories" of Manager we could consider. ANY appointment is a gamble in one way or another. We can get someone with a load of experience, but that doesn't guarantee success. Paul Hart had loads of experience in keeping teams up, but that didn't help at all.
Ex players/ managers with a Swindon Conection. They would have a passion sure, but there club conection will mean sod all to most of the players they are managing.
Then there is the "Big Name" appointment. I'd include Di Canio in that category. He also has a passion so would fit the bill there. The advantage is that he will help pull players that wouldn't normally sign for us , the disadvantage is that he would lack experience. Having said that I believe a managers prime responsibility is to get the best out of the players. An assistant could provide tactical nous.
I'd prefer someone like Di Canio to Paul Bodin to be honest. As has been said, most of STFC's sucess in the past has come from appointments such as this ie Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle, even Macmahon, & Wise.

Thanks, friend.  You're a gent.


Most of this is true.  But you're forgetting that I did make it to Orient this year as well as Dagenham...so you can take your 90 minutes and stick them double it.  Or something.

Probably two of our worst performances away, Let me know in advance which ones you'll be attending next year to save me some money..

Bring me sunshine ?

My point was that we've had more success with managers that had no previous link with the club.

If Bodin gets it, solely on the fact that the board decide he's the best candidate, fine.

If he gets it due in part to his history with the club, I won't understand it.

It's never worked before.

As to the managers we've taken on who had no prior experience, in the main they've done a decent job. I would rather have a big name, ex player in charge, who's hungry for success, than someone employed partly due to sentimentality.

 The problem with picking a new boss, is that it's such an inexact science. Take Nigel Adkins, has now had 3 promotions from L1 in 5 years.

 Had a fairly modest career as a player keeping goal for Scunthorpe...on finishing, managed Bangor City for a couple of years in the LoW in the mid 90's.  Jacked that in to go to Uni, and had been physio at Scunny for some years, before getting a crack as caretaker, the rest being history.

He'd be about the same age as Zippy, but crucial differences....Bangor won the LoW a couple of times when he was there, and Uni thing suggested an ability to think outside the box a bit.

If we were in Scunny's shoes, I don't think anyone would have been too impressed with giving the job to the physio, who had a bit of non league experience 10 years ago.

Anyone remember Richard Dinnis?  He was given 1st Division Newcastle in 77, when Gordon Lee quit, he had no pro football experience, because he was a school teacher....lasted about 5 mins, and Newcastle got relegated. Certainly no Dr Jozef Venglos.

I don't think we should appoint Richard Dinnis then.

As far as I can see, Bodin has shown zero in ambition terms to want to break into management since he quit Bath. You dont get to 46 years of age without getting at least one shot at managing - even as an assistant - at league level if you have real ambition and desire burning away.

He strikes me as a bit of a plodder, happy to sit in the background earning his corn out of the glare of the spotlight. He said himself in the press last week that he didnt know if he could cut it when it comes to signing players etc.

Absolute legend that he is, is he really the type of management character we want to kick us back into shape?

Couldn't you have said much the same about Adkins a few years' back though?

Like Reg says, there's no template for picking the right manager. Don't think many would have picked out Paul Lambert as the superstar he's currently reckoned to be a few years back either. There's as much luck as there is judgement in making the right appointment

It's all about getting the right man for the club. Look at Lambert as Pauld says. Didn't really do much at Wycombe or Colchester but went to Norwich and has set the world alight there. I doubt Poyet would have done as well as he's done at a different club either. Brighton suits him. He even admits that. Certain managers go with certain clubs. We need to find one that works for us but it's not easy. Maybe someone like Trollope would actually do really well here? We just dont know.

I've got a hunch Trollope could do great if he can get the players he wants.

I am warming to the prospect of Trollope.

Look at the managers who got teams out of league 2 this season.  Sheridan, Knill (mostly) and Waddock.

None of those names are exciting high(ish) profile but they know that standard an awfull lot more than a Di Canio or even a Hoddle these days.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/862445-paolo-di-canio-interested-in-replacing-avram-grant-as-west-ham-manager

Can someone post the template for appointing a new manager please? Thanks.

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Thanks JJ.

I'd go for Gladstone Small based on that template.

Paolo Di Canio would ditch Swindon the moment a big club comes along. It's what Lou Macari (earned it), Ossie Ardiles, Glenn Hoddle, Colin Todd and Dennis Wise all did it. While Paul Sturrock went back to 'his club in England' Plymouth, Di Canio would do the same with West Ham came knocking.

It doesn't bother me to be honest because we're a small football club and you cannot prevent the lure of higher leagues.

We "got over" relegation when Dennis Wise was appointed, luckily he put the club in a good position before buggering off to Leeds. I can see why people want an exciting appointment but I must admit, I'm far more interested in Town bringing a manager in who can stop the slide and possibly put us in a situation where we can push for promotion.

Speculation is fun.

Also, the debate of appointing a fascist must be a TEF first.

I think having a town connection can be a bad thing. I think the fans would be sentimental about a Calderwood or similar coming in. They'd get a break from the fans that they might not deserve.

On the other hand, pedigree is something to look for. Lambert was a protege of O'Neill. Loads of top managers have played for Ferguson. Brendan Rodgers learned from Mourinho. I'd rather someone who had played for top managers and learned from them than someone who had played for Swindon at some point.

There was certainly no debate when SY becoming a mod....he just took the job in a putsch.

Good point. Proteges are certainly 'in vogue' these days. Newport County appointed Anthony Hudson who was being looked after by Harry Redknapp.

Plus what with reserves and several academy sides, bigger teams have loads of coaching staff these days.

I think the right choice could well be sitting in an academy job somewhere... Not Hoddle though :)

...Keep in line Reg, or we'll encounter another coup d'état.

These two posts are probably the most sensible posts made in this whole discussion, across all the threads (not a high bar admittedly).

Ray Wilkins anyone? (That's a joke btw before you all start)

Could be and indeed an academy manager would fit with the self-funding vision of the board. however what they tend not to have is the background in player recruitment as while they are used to coaching they don't pick players, they don't make final decisions on signings. Also tactically they usually haven't been tested. Peter Grant at Norwich would be a decent example of this, some could argue that Malpas, as an U21 boss was similar in some ways.

If we are talking about coaches that have been "mentored" by Chelsea Managers then what about Ade Mafe? I am sure that he would be interested on the proviso that Alan O'B re-signed

Nothing to do with the Swindon connection,more due to the fact that he has been working with the youths etc,would agree with you if say Duncan Shearer or Maskel was appointed but the fact is Bodin knows the club inside out due to the fact he has worked here for years.

My money is on Richard Money but Bodin would be a good choice in my eyes.

Just to play devil's advocate, Keane has plenty of pedigree but made a right dog's breakfast of the Ipswich job.

Tbh, the more I hear of some of the more "alternative" suggestions, the more I warm to the idea of Paul Trollope.

Trollope is looking like the sane solution for me. Gazza has some managerial experience though...

Still want Paul Buckle but wouldn't be dissapointed with Trollop after having a serious look at what's available.