Title: Hoddle Post by: herthab on Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:26:59 A lot of rumours doing the rounds about Glenda becoming our next manager, after his appearance at the game Saturday.
While it's a possibility (However slight) I'm surprised no one has thought about the more likely scenario..... Hoddle's academy in Spain is looking for a new club to tie in with, apparently the spainish club they previously used owes them shitloads and are refusing to stump up. Hoddle has already said they are looking for a lower-league club away from Spain to co-operate with...... Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Benzel on Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:29:04 Seems more realistic that we'd set up a partnership with them. Although having him back as manager would certainly put bums on seats for next season.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:34:38 I'd have the chances of Hoddle as next manager somewhere between zip and zilch.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Ardiles on Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:36:09 He could still do a job for us in the 4 shirt!
Best player I've ever seen wearing the red & white...bar none. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: juddie on Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:37:09 Quite why he would need/want to is beyond me. He was laughing most of the way through the first half, presumably at how shite we were.
He was there because the club have been looking to link with the academy, and with Gorman being there it was a case of two birds/one stone. Anyone who thinks Hoddle would consider managing us in League Two needs to be sectioned. That said, even if he'd popped by the dressing room at half time and had a word we would have done better. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:40:25 He should have popped in at half time and laughed at them.
They think they are too worthy, yet even greats like Hoddle have worn the shirt. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Arriba on Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:45:04 Considering the state we are in.Fitton taking a punt on hoddle would tick alot of boxes.
Might have a big X in his wages department though. If the big money was offered i think he'd come back Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:46:27 Is the managers salary included when the salary cap is counted?
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Arriba on Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:47:39 no idea
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: RJack on Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:51:22 Hoddle definetly won't be manager next season. He was there to talk to Andrew Fitton about establishing a link to feed players from his Academy to Swindon for next season.
I'm pretty sure either McParland or Trollope will be manager next season with Hart moving into an upstairs role. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Batch on Monday, April 18, 2011, 11:24:09 the only thought I had when hoddle was mentioned was he was either on academy business or simply just catching up.
ill reserve judgement on any academy link until we see the standard of player and their physical ability to cope. hope its not our main recruitment policy. he won't be next manager! Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, April 18, 2011, 11:30:29 Few people who work at the club were telling me saturday that we are in talks about him becoming manager
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 18, 2011, 11:31:00 ill reserve judgement on any academy link until we see the standard of player and their physical ability to cope. hope its not our main recruitment policy. I had this thought.....it could be a recipe for disaster. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: lazyboy on Monday, April 18, 2011, 11:36:42 Basically the purpose of Hoddles academy is to pick up boys that have not been offered pro contracts at the end of their scholarships and basically give them a second chance of making it, so the standard of player would still be quite good and the hunger and desire to return to the game full time I think would be that much more. Forget Hoddle coimng back as manager, its never going to happen
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, April 18, 2011, 11:40:41 Is the academy Hoddle's privately owned business, or is he just running it?
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: nevillew on Monday, April 18, 2011, 11:43:18 I'd have the chances of Hoddle as next manager somewhere between zip and zilch. surely the other way round Reg, possibly one in a zillion ? Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Benzel on Monday, April 18, 2011, 11:44:02 Is the academy Hoddle's privately owned business, or is he just running it? http://www.glennhoddleacademy.com/glenns_dream.html Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 18, 2011, 11:55:34 surely the other way round Reg, possibly one in a zillion ? Don't be Zilly.... [url width=150 height=300]http://www.weirdspace.dk/HannaBarbera/Graphics/Zilly.gif[/url] Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Power to people on Monday, April 18, 2011, 12:20:04 Hoddle was interviewed on the radio before the game and said he had been speaking to Fitton about a couple of players in his academy and he may be taking a look at 1 or 2 of the released players from town, asked if he was coming back as manager he said no he was too busy with the academy and mentioed the coaches who hewlp him out, he also said he speaks to Gorman quite a bit and as he was at the CG and Hoddle only lives about an hour down the road then he thought he would come along and take the game in.
I hope that Fitton has asked Hoddle's advice on potential new managers as well. Let's put this hoddle as manager rumour to bed now, it's not happening. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, April 18, 2011, 12:25:11 Hoddle was interviewed on the radio before the game and said he had been speaking to Fitton about a couple of players in his academy and he may be taking a look at 1 or 2 of the released players from town, asked if he was coming back as manager he said no he was too busy with the academy and mentioed the coaches who hewlp him out, he also said he speaks to Gorman quite a bit and as he was at the CG and Hoddle only lives about an hour down the road then he thought he would come along and take the game in. I hope that Fitton has asked Hoddle's advice on potential new managers as well. Let's put this hoddle as manager rumour to bed now, it's not happening. Why, because Hoddle said so in an interview? I doubt it will happen myself, but learned a long time ago that you cannot take what managers and players say to the press as gospel Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, April 18, 2011, 12:29:07 Why, because Hoddle said so in an interview? Even more so when thebloke saying so is the same bloke who said he won't be leaving us for chelsea.I doubt it will happen myself, but learned a long time ago that you cannot take what managers and players say to the press as gospel Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, April 18, 2011, 15:48:16 Exactly BK. Of course Hoddle is going to deny rumours. Personally though I think it's more of a case of people putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5. Really can't see Hoddle coming to us with his academy his primary concern.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: knifey spoony on Monday, April 18, 2011, 16:09:36 Hoddle would never come back. I doubt he even has the appetite for club management any more.
I see John Gregory has just left his Turkish club. Could be well worth a punt. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, April 18, 2011, 16:12:44 They said on Radio Swindon this was the reason, he met with Fitton regarding this
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, April 18, 2011, 16:21:51 Why the fuck do we need a tie in to Hoddle's academy when we've got links to Man City, Liverpool, Celtic etc?
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Nemo on Monday, April 18, 2011, 16:23:01 Fitton plays FM and wants to see whether Sports Interactive would include the Hoddle Academy in the game.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, April 18, 2011, 16:57:00 I've convinced myself that this is happening.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, April 18, 2011, 17:52:53 Fitton plays FM and wants to see whether Sports Interactive would include the Hoddle Academy in the game. Maybe he scouts players using FM Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Lumps on Monday, April 18, 2011, 18:57:46 It's worth pointing out that last season Hoddle took over the football operations (as a kind of DoF I guess) of the local Spanish 3rd tier side Jerez Industrial, that the academy had a link up and investment with. They got relegated, Hoddle's lost his cash, the link-ups been pretty much broken up, with most of the academy lads back in England, (8 have gone back over on loan to JI until the end of the season).
It's possible I guess that GH is looking for a lower league club to have a long term link up with. With the way Fitton's mind works, wanting a stable coaching team of decent quality, I could see him at least putting the offer to him of a similar arrangement to that at JI. Still having a club appointed head coach, but with GH as DoF and sharing Rix / Beasant and Spackman with the academy. (Assuming they're moving the operation back home anyway) Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, April 18, 2011, 19:04:49 (Assuming their moving the operation back home anyway) The academy site says they're back in the UK already. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 18, 2011, 19:22:47 It's worth pointing out that last season Hoddle took over the football operations (as a kind of DoF I guess) of the local Spanish 3rd tier side Jerez Industrial, that the academy had a link up and investment with. They got relegated, Hoddle's lost his cash, the link-ups been pretty much broken up, with most of the academy lads back in England, (8 have gone back over on loan to JI until the end of the season). It's possible I guess that GH is looking for a lower league club to have a long term link up with. With the way Fitton's mind works, wanting a stable coaching team of decent quality, I could see him at least putting the offer to him of a similar arrangement to that at JI. Still having a club appointed head coach, but with GH as DoF and sharing Rix / Beasant and Spackman with the academy. (Assuming they're moving the operation back home anyway) Am I the only one a bit worried by these developments....the thought of Rix and Spackman being anywhere near STFC fills me with dread. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Lumps on Monday, April 18, 2011, 19:31:39 Am I the only one a bit worried by these developments....the thought of Rix and Spackman being anywhere near STFC fills me with dread. In comparison to the people who have "coached" our players for the last 10 years or so? Not really no. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 18, 2011, 19:41:16 In comparison to the people who have "coached" our players for the last 10 years or so? Not really no. So you'd take....Spacker and Rix over for example Malcolm Crosby, Gus Poyet, Paul Sturrock, Danny Wilson. FFS I'd take Kingy over those 2. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, April 18, 2011, 19:43:56 Rix had a great reputation before his, ahem, misdemeanour.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, April 18, 2011, 19:47:10 He may be a peado
But he'd be our peado Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Dazzza on Monday, April 18, 2011, 20:42:13 Am I the only one a bit worried by these developments....the thought of Rix and Spackman being anywhere near STFC fills me with dread. I couldn't think of anything worse. Spackman has been in an out of management since taking over at Sheff Utd in 97 - he hasn't managed to last a season, yet. Rix is just grubby. He reminds me of watching the Human Centipede after which I felt like I needed to bleach and scour my eyeballs. Jim McIntyre of Dunfermaline is my top tip, scotch but not in the Malpas mould, looks a good up and coming young manager with all the media skills of the old smoking chimp. Can't go wrong? Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: pauld on Monday, April 18, 2011, 21:16:08 Am I the only one a bit worried by these developments....the thought of Rix and Spackman being anywhere near STFC fills me with dread. Not at all (as in you're not the only one). Please God no. At least Fulham only have to put up with a statue of one.Wasn't Rix also in charge at the Scummers during "BannanaGate"? Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: flammableBen on Monday, April 18, 2011, 21:26:59 Just been catching up on this thread.
However high you put him up the managerial legends scale, having Hoddle as manager knowing that any signings will be done not only in the interests of the club but also with a vested interest in his academy, just seems like a bad idea. Actually it fills me with the same sort of dread as the club being bought up by a shadowy consortium of agents. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, April 18, 2011, 21:48:34 Just been catching up on this thread. However high you put him up the managerial legends scale, having Hoddle as manager knowing that any signings will be done not only in the interests of the club but also with a vested interest in his academy, just seems like a bad idea. Actually it fills me with the same sort of dread as the club being bought up by a shadowy consortium of agents. Best Holdings? Didn't they have something smilar thing going on with foreign players? It would be a bit like that but less corrupt. With this in mind i'm not sure I fancy the idea of Hoddle in charge either. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: flammableBen on Monday, April 18, 2011, 22:08:05 Yeah. I was referring to them.
Unless fitton and co wanted to further their youth setup plans by actually buying out the academy for the club. I suppose that could work. Doesn't seem likely though. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, April 18, 2011, 22:09:52 I think if the club descended so far as to have any dealings with a paedo Scummer like Rix then even I'd reconsider 40 years of support. The crossbar needs to be set - even if it very low - but complete fucking scum like rix would never get over it.
As the Manic Street Preachers said " if you tolerate Rix then you're children will be next". Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: DV on Monday, April 18, 2011, 22:23:01 The only thing worse than Rix and/or Spackman next season would be keeping on Paul Hart.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: mrverve on Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 08:06:52 I wouldn't particularly want Hoddle in. He's one of my favourite Swindon players of all time, he was excellent for us as manager but I would prefer someone a bit younger, hungrier, with new ideas getting into management. Almost like Hoddle was when he came to us in the early 90's.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: grubby on Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 08:50:20 Rix is just grubby. He reminds me of watching the Human Centipede after which I felt like I needed to bleach and scour my eyeballs. Libel case? please do not associate me with that twat Rix. ;) Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 13:33:13 Rix and Spackman, both total failures.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: BANGKOK RED on Saturday, April 23, 2011, 17:27:06 Somebody texted in that Rix and Beasant were there today
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, April 23, 2011, 18:04:31 Isn't that the last four games or so that Hoddle or one of his team has been watching?
As the tie up with the Spanish club has been terminated, there has to be a good chance that we're lining up a deal. Maybe moving his academy to Swindon, Hoddle becoming director of football and one of his team becoming manager? Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Benzel on Saturday, April 23, 2011, 18:09:48 Someone texted in saying Hoddle is buying out the club! haha. I guess they've got their wires crossed somewhere...
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: BANGKOK RED on Saturday, April 23, 2011, 18:15:11 Hoddle becoming director of football and one of his team becoming manager? Which was apparently the set up with the Spanish team Does anybody know the circumstances behind their relegation? Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, April 23, 2011, 18:31:21 I believe that their team was pretty much all players from the academy. There was some kind of falling out, so Hoddle and the academy packed their bags and headed back to England. Leaving them without enough players to complete their games.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: cheltred69 on Saturday, April 23, 2011, 18:37:23 Seems that the club were bailed out by the academy and given loans. These loans haven't been repaid so Hoddle has pulled the link and relocated his academy to the UK (Bisham Abbey).
12 players have returned to Spain to allow the Spanish club to fulfil their fixtures for this season. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, April 23, 2011, 18:38:49 This academy doesn't sound like something I want us to get involved in to be quite honest.
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: pericarp on Saturday, April 23, 2011, 19:26:43 Screw the academy and its links. But hoddle, come to us. :nod: :nod:
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Dazzza on Saturday, April 23, 2011, 20:19:50 By all means attach the academy to the club but do not let the academy become the club or even interfere with the current set-up. If Glen’s academy players were good enough they would have found a club by virtue of their ability. Yes a few slip down the back of the couch like Charlie Austin but they’re few and far between and usually there’s a reason why they fall down the back of the couch in the first place.
In the current environment when kids are being poached from youth team level it’s hard to believe there is that much talent getting missed. Just my two penneth worth but those youngsters that end up in Premiership or even Championship academies in some instances fail due to a lack of competitive games and ending up down the bottom of the pile and start playing regularly is actually what they need to get to a standard where they become league quality. It’s a noble project but not one that will make a successful winning team or even youth set-up. I really, really hope Rix or the Beast do not end up anywhere near the 1st team next season or I can see us imploding in spectacular and traumatising fashion. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: cheltred69 on Saturday, April 23, 2011, 20:31:16 Can't make any sense to become the outlet for GH Academy - a bunch of kids in L2 would get murdered.
Sure Fitton has made mistakes since taking over the club but no way can realistically see him taking such a gamble. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: jonny72 on Monday, April 25, 2011, 10:45:30 Think about 6 players have gone from the academy to league clubs, though none have achieved much so far.
I doubt Hoddle would be stupid enough to think he could just dump all his kids in to a League Two team. They could with the Spanish team as they play at a level equal to or lower than our Conference North / South - Supermarine level for example. Working with the academy makes sense to me. We might get a few players out of it plus it gives Hoddle the structure of a club to work within - sort of merging it with our youth / reserve team. I can't see having Hoddle involved with us at some level being a bad thing, I'd prefer him picking the new manager than Fitton. Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, April 25, 2011, 11:00:04 No to any Rix involvement at the club. ITS A BIG NO FITTON!
Title: Re: Hoddle Post by: Lumps on Monday, April 25, 2011, 11:00:58 I really, really hope Rix or the Beast do not end up anywhere near the 1st team next season or I can see us imploding in spectacular and traumatising fashion. Even at Industrial the club kept their own manager, with Hoddle and the academy's coaching staff working in an advisory capacity. |