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Title: Longest run without a win?
Post by: bullethead on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 08:01:28
Tried looking for stats on our longest run without a win but can't find one, can one of you stattos can help?
Apologies if this has been done elsewhere.
I'm that depressed by it all that I'd just like to know that things might have been worse at some point in our history!


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: london_red on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 08:02:42
19 in 99/00

ie Franchise at home could be a historic day...


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: bullethead on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 08:29:17
Cheers!


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 08:53:43
Reg answered the question a few days ago in the 'Fitton & Co' thread.

We're making history! (http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,43001.msg942152.html#msg942152)

As London Red says, we're still a few games off the club record which was set in 1999/2000 under Quinn.  However, we were in the second tier at that point (and dropping out of it fast).  In the lower leagues, we have never had such a poor run as the one we are having right now.

That puts things in context, I think.  This is not just a poor season...it's off the scale.  Certainly the worst season we have had in the 21 years I have been following the club and, very possibly, one of the worst 5 or 6 seasons in the club's history.


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 08:59:15
That puts things in context, I think.  This is not just a poor season...it's off the scale.  

Exactly, context is everything. We've had bad season before. But this time there is no administration. Players have been paid. There is no panic appointment of ex-players as manager. As far as I can see we have invested a reasonable wedge on players and players wages.

In other words there is no reason you can point to and say "that is why we are here", unless you believe boardroom meddling in player/recruitment sales. And to me that is all heresay.


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 09:18:00
...which makes the whole thing all the more baffling.

Very soon, the post mortem will need to start - and I don't think that this can take place entirely behind closed doors.  Grateful as I am (still) for the off field stability that the board has brought to the club, surely now they have to hold their hands up and concede that on the football side, serious errors were made this season.

Self-sufficiency has been the 'buzz phrase' since they took over.  Maybe they felt that, after last season's relative successes, we could afford to lose the likes of Greer and promote from within?  Self-sufficiency/sustainability is a good aim, but now this simply looks like an error of judgement.

The ability of our board members to run a back office is not in question.  But their ability to take sound footballing decisions certainly is.  Clearly, there needs to be more scrutiny of the football decisions taken at board level in future.  Perhaps a Director of Football sitting on the board is now needed.

(I've taken another thread off at a tangent.  Apologies there.)


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: LucienSanchez on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 09:28:51
Ardiles (the poster) has said everything i want to, but without swearing or calling Fitton a bastard.


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: Gnasher on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 09:39:13
...which makes the whole thing all the more baffling.

Very soon, the post mortem will need to start - and I don't think that this can take place entirely behind closed doors.  Grateful as I am (still) for the off field stability that the board has brought to the club, surely now they have to hold their hands up and concede that on the football side, serious errors were made this season.

Self-sufficiency has been the 'buzz phrase' since they took over.  Maybe they felt that, after last season's relative successes, we could afford to lose the likes of Greer and promote from within?  Self-sufficiency/sustainability is a good aim, but now this simply looks like an error of judgement.

The ability of our board members to run a back office is not in question.  But their ability to take sound footballing decisions certainly is.  Clearly, there needs to be more scrutiny of the football decisions taken at board level in future.  Perhaps a Director of Football sitting on the board is now needed.

(I've taken another thread off at a tangent.  Apologies there.)

Hear, hear. And Fitton is a bastard for this season alone  :D


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: Bathtime on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 09:41:11
And when do we think this run of poor results come to an end....??? :hmmm:


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 09:58:14
Ardiles (the poster) has said everything i want to, but without swearing or calling Fitton a bastard.
And me. Although the not swearing spoiled it somehow


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: pumbaa on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 10:04:46
...which makes the whole thing all the more baffling.

Very soon, the post mortem will need to start - and I don't think that this can take place entirely behind closed doors.  Grateful as I am (still) for the off field stability that the board has brought to the club, surely now they have to hold their hands up and concede that on the football side, serious errors were made this season.

Self-sufficiency has been the 'buzz phrase' since they took over.  Maybe they felt that, after last season's relative successes, we could afford to lose the likes of Greer and promote from within?  Self-sufficiency/sustainability is a good aim, but now this simply looks like an error of judgement.

The ability of our board members to run a back office is not in question.  But their ability to take sound footballing decisions certainly is.  Clearly, there needs to be more scrutiny of the football decisions taken at board level in future.  Perhaps a Director of Football sitting on the board is now needed.

(I've taken another thread off at a tangent.  Apologies there.)

I fucking hate you sometimes, too articulate for your own good.

Well said, agree entirely, but show some emotion next time......


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 10:14:49
Well said, agree entirely,

Thanks.

but show some emotion next time......

Sorry...I'm an accountant.


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 10:20:39
Sorry...I'm an accountant.

(season)


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 11:39:33
Sorry...I'm an accountant.

It shows !! Have you done your cost/benefit analysis ?

Batch - please change your avatar - its giving me nightmares and making me wet the bed like I used to do after watching rent-a-ghost  ;D


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: walrus on Thursday, March 31, 2011, 12:17:38
Has anyone noticed how much more Fitton's name is mentioned on here this season that last?


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: DV on Thursday, March 31, 2011, 14:07:52
Jeez, I wonder why that is?


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, March 31, 2011, 14:18:14
There was an air of complacency about us at the start of the season. From the board, manager, players and fans alike. Having the likes of Greer, Paynter and Austin here now may have prevented us from going down but we'd have still been shit and an equal measure of complaint against Fitton would still exist.


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: Morgan Freeman on Thursday, March 31, 2011, 14:47:54
Grimsby had a winless run of 25 games last season.


Title: Re: Longest run without a win?
Post by: luckyluke699 on Thursday, March 31, 2011, 15:04:29
Grimsby had a winless run of 25 games last season.

Indeed, their "Be there or Blue square campaign" didn't quite go to plan sadly. Shame as I quite liked Lee Peacock, always gave his all for us.

http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk/news/Mariners-captain-backs-survival-campaign/article-1887297-detail/article.html

On the other hand, who gives a fuck? It's Swindon's worst ever run we should be concerned with and we're getting pretty closed to the debate on whether this is worse then the 99/00 run being over at this rate!

To be honest at this point any win is merely a consolation, as most will agree we aren't likely to win 5 from 7 games (as much as I'd like us to). I'm far more interested in the board's plans to take L2 by storm next season now for a return bounce to L1!

Write this off as a failure of a season, and look forward to a cracking 11/12 campaign. The future's still bright, the future's still red.