Title: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, March 28, 2011, 11:24:28 I did not post this under the shirts as it is different.
A few years back my dad bought me Harold Flemings 1910-11 southern league winners medal at auction. Sadly now I am selling it. Does anybody know of anyone who may want to purchase it? Please note it was bought for £2,000+. Not looking to profit money back will suffice the club don't want to purchase, just wondered it anybody knew of anyone. I wanted to offer it amongst fans first before private memorabilia collectors Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Ralphy on Monday, March 28, 2011, 11:57:17 Not interested in buying but would really like to see a pic of it if possible ??
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, March 28, 2011, 11:58:36 Why not just slap it on e-bay? far wider audience...
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, March 28, 2011, 13:10:33 Not interested in buying but would really like to see a pic of it if possible ?? of course no problem. Let me find the auction link and post it on here, they took some good closeups. It really is a beautiful piece Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, March 28, 2011, 14:00:25 Found the link.
http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/11871/lot/331/ I know the trust got together and tried to buy the whole lot of his medal but a private collector bid stupid prices and won most of the best medals - but not this one :toocool: The old man did bid for the other league one but got outbid. I dearly love it, but as you know I have moved abroad, and my father suggested selling it to help fund things. I would have kept it but as he gave me his blessing to sale I will try and do so. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: london_red on Monday, March 28, 2011, 14:04:57 Quality piece of Town nostalgia that. Bit out of my price range unfortunately but nice to see a link to one of the club's real greats.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: leefer on Monday, March 28, 2011, 16:55:10 Email the football league museum in Preston....they may be very interested.
Would love it myself. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: BelfastRobin on Monday, March 28, 2011, 17:10:40 Email the football league museum in Preston....they may be very interested. Would love it myself. It was moved last year to Manchester, but you make a very valid point, I imagine they would be very interested. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: leefer on Monday, March 28, 2011, 17:14:49 Didn't know that Robin......cheers.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: DV on Monday, March 28, 2011, 18:02:46 Why do the club not want it??!!??
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, March 28, 2011, 19:04:39 Why do the club not want it??!!?? Maybe they think they're in for another Southern league medal in a couple of yearsTitle: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, February 13, 2012, 07:07:52 just a bump to say I am moving flats & need every penny I can acquire, and the medal is still available
Title: Re: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, February 13, 2012, 08:05:43 Given the pennies rolling in from the Wembley trip, the club may now be more interested. It'd be a shame to see them go to a generic collector.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 13, 2012, 09:56:53 Given the pennies rolling in from the Wembley trip, the club may now be more interested. It'd be a shame to see them go to a generic collector. Agreed, email the club directly but without being pushy at all, hint that you are selling it and they MAY be interested in buying it. Nowt to lose, the PR at the club now is top rate so they will answer. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: juddie on Monday, February 13, 2012, 10:29:45 this is awesome. would make a decent medallion.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, February 13, 2012, 11:42:15 Agreed, email the club directly but without being pushy at all, hint that you are selling it and they MAY be interested in buying it. Nowt to lose, the PR at the club now is top rate so they will answer. I email Nick Watkins a while ago & he said they were not interested in purchasing it - but would happily put it on display for me Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Power to people on Monday, February 13, 2012, 12:44:31 Email the supporters club - they may be interested in things like this or know of people that might be interested
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, March 11, 2012, 17:54:24 Still got it if anybody knows of any interested parties let me know
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: hobodan on Sunday, March 11, 2012, 18:15:24 It's a nice bit of history & all that but.. If you had that valued on the antiques roadshow I doubt they'd say it's worth anywhere near £2k
The only way to determin the true value of an item like this is by auction, I suspect you may be well down on the £2k valuation unfortunately Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: leefer on Sunday, March 11, 2012, 19:56:22 Would love that Fleming medal.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Notts red on Sunday, March 11, 2012, 20:11:13 Would love that Fleming medal. Having it in a display cabinet somewhere like the club shop for a few home games may get someone interested and would also give fans the chance to have a look. Most fans like to see old memorabilia from their own club.Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: leefer on Sunday, March 11, 2012, 20:48:18 Real strange that the club will not buy it in my opinion,a real shame.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: deltaincline on Sunday, March 11, 2012, 22:40:59 Not sure when the quoted 2K was paid out for Flemmings medal, but I suspect it was pre 2008.
The world has changed since then. Trinkets like an old England medal have dropped in price as there is little money around for everyday stuff, let alone for an item that would be considered an indulgent purchase by most peoples standards. I'll give you £500 in cash for it if you're desperate to get some money back on it. Genuine offer. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: leefer on Monday, March 12, 2012, 11:49:41 Raffle it....£20 a ticket,selling a hundred will net you two grande.....and the item will almost certainly stay with a Town Fan.
Selling 75 would get you £1,500. Of course i am not sure if that is legal....but i reckon with the clubs progress this season you would get a decent response.....i will have 2.........just 98 to go :D Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Arriba on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:33:43 i doubt he'd sell 10 tickets at £20. A non starter
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: leefer on Monday, March 12, 2012, 12:54:49 i doubt he'd sell 10 tickets at £20. A non starter I think he would sell ten on here alone.........though selling 100 would be tough that is granted. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, March 12, 2012, 17:42:08 Not sure when the quoted 2K was paid out for Flemmings medal, but I suspect it was pre 2008. The world has changed since then. Trinkets like an old England medal have dropped in price as there is little money around for everyday stuff, let alone for an item that would be considered an indulgent purchase by most peoples standards. I'll give you £500 in cash for it if you're desperate to get some money back on it. Genuine offer. For sure, the price of football memorabilia has not quite collapsed, but damn near so. I appreciate the offer, however I wouldnt sell it for that Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Navyred stfc on Monday, March 12, 2012, 19:08:11 Have you contacted any members of his family? Might sound like a daft question as I presume they sold it in the first place? Apologise if i've missed something.
I would love to have this to go along with my other medals, would look nice indeed. For what it's worth I respect what you are doing those are you and your dads wishes, let's just hope it gets in the hands of a town fan, id love to have it. Maybe we could all pay £10 each and buy it off the fella then we could give it to the club where it would stay forever, not a bad idea hey? Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, March 12, 2012, 19:21:02 Maybe we could all pay £10 each and buy it off the fella then we could give it to Norway Red where it would stay forever, not a bad idea hey? Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Boy About Town on Monday, March 12, 2012, 19:34:47 Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 16:18:20 Have you contacted any members of his family? Might sound like a daft question as I presume they sold it in the first place? Apologise if i've missed something. I would love to have this to go along with my other medals, would look nice indeed. For what it's worth I respect what you are doing those are you and your dads wishes, let's just hope it gets in the hands of a town fan, id love to have it. Maybe we could all pay £10 each and buy it off the fella then we could give it to the club where it would stay forever, not a bad idea hey? I still feel guilty even trying to sale it, in the sense that my boy man bought it and gave it as a present for my 18th. But I have my life over here now & in order to build it, the money becomes of more use Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: janaage on Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 16:47:14 I still feel guilty even trying to sale it, in the sense that my boy man bought it and gave it as a present for my 18th. But I have my life over here now & in order to build it, the money becomes of more use I'd feel guilty about selling such a thoughtful 18th birthday present too. Are you really that desperate for some extra money? Are you not going to regret this in a few years? I always think in these situations that the money would come in handy but there are ways around that, and in years to come if you still had this possession and perhaps gave it to a grandson for his 18th that'd make you a lot happier than getting your mitts on some extra cash right now. Just a thought, of a stranger poking his nose in where it's probably not wanted. No offence intended skip! Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 18:27:22 No, no not at all jan its nice to hear the opinion, not offended in the slightest.
Well the grandson part might be pushing it (not sure any woman would put up with me :-) but my thoughts are exactly that - it was a a gift and although my dad suggested I sell if needed, I wouldnt want to hurt him in doing so. If we got our money back (or there abouts) I'd sale. But for less I'd find a way to get by (there's always working the Reeperbahn of a weekend :-) Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 29, 2012, 08:07:25 bump.
I'm pretty broke, so if anybody knows of any interested people let me know Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: @MacPhlea on Friday, June 29, 2012, 08:34:32 Stick it on eBay - you'll get what collectors value it at...
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 29, 2012, 08:41:08 Stick it on eBay - you'll get what collectors value it at... ebay is no good for memorabilia anymore. The ebay market has collapsed, but then to be honest so has the market generally for football memorabilia Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, June 29, 2012, 09:59:26 ebay is no good for memorabilia anymore. The ebay market has collapsed, but then to be honest so has the market generally for football memorabilia Sign of the times no doubt. Not a lot different to houses though. Sounds like you'll either need to sell at a loss or sit tight. I doubt my gaff is worth what i paid for it 5 years ago so i won't sympathise. I would however love the medal if i win the lottery. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:25:25 Sign of the times no doubt. Not a lot different to houses though. Sounds like you'll either need to sell at a loss or sit tight. I doubt my gaff is worth what i paid for it 5 years ago so i won't sympathise. for sure, the economy has gone to pot, so people don't buy 'treats' which is understandable. The price of memorabilia was always artificially high for many years. I would even argue that now the prices of such items are at their real value Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Ardiles on Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29:57 Not sure when the quoted 2K was paid out for Flemmings medal, but I suspect it was pre 2008. The world has changed since then. Trinkets like an old England medal have dropped in price as there is little money around for everyday stuff, let alone for an item that would be considered an indulgent purchase by most peoples standards. I'll give you £500 in cash for it if you're desperate to get some money back on it. Genuine offer. For sure, the price of football memorabilia has not quite collapsed, but damn near so. I appreciate the offer, however I wouldnt sell it for that Quite by coincidence, this story is up on the BBC News website at the moment. Ex-Manchester United Footballer's Medal Found at Shropshire school (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-18629111) I appreciate you're not talking like for like (not least because STFC > MUFC), but the £500 valuation mentioned in this piece may well be nearer what the market is now paying for medals like this. In which case, I would probably buy it off you myself and give it to the club. :) (Personally, I'd hold on to it, though.) Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 29, 2012, 13:50:26 Its sad for me that the money is needed more than the medal, but thats life I suppose
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: jonny72 on Friday, June 29, 2012, 14:20:29 I've been selling off my football card collection recently and have been getting very good prices. It's all about supply and demand and if you've got something someone wants then they will pay for it.
Maybe take it to one of the auction houses, they'll likely get the best price selling it in a football specific auction. Or wait for one of the free listing days on eBay and put it up on buy it now and best offer, to see what interest there is. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 11:24:42 Will try my luck on ebay, with best offer & see how it goes.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 12:52:00 Now on auction (please note I am open to sensible offers)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Swindon-Town-Southern-Football-League-Winners-Medal-1910-11-Harold-Fleming-/280916651524?pt=UK_SportsMemorabilia_Football_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item4167efee04 Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 13:01:25 Considering the starting bid I wish you good luck.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 13:02:25 Considering the starting bid I wish you good luck. more in hope that somebody might make an offer. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 13:02:34 Now on auction (please note I am open to sensible offers) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Swindon-Town-Southern-Football-League-Winners-Medal-1910-11-Harold-Fleming-/280916651524?pt=UK_SportsMemorabilia_Football_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item4167efee04 2.5k for a starting bid probably isnt the best way to go about it. Just have a reserve on it Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 13:05:24 Matchworn shirts in overvalued memorabilia shocker
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 13:08:11 2.5k for a starting bid probably isnt the best way to go about it. Just have a reserve on it it was free listing, so thought I'd give it a go. Next option is between buy now with best offer, or reserve. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 13:13:27 Matchworn shirts in overvalued memorabilia shocker thats because matchwornshirts overpays in the first place :-) Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 13:36:15 If anyone is seriously interested in it they'll send you a message and make an offer. People watching it is a good sign of interest as well, I watch stuff that I thinks over priced in case it's relished lower.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 13:39:34 If anyone is seriously interested in it they'll send you a message and make an offer. People watching it is a good sign of interest as well, I watch stuff that I thinks over priced in case it's relished lower. I don't pay too much attention to people watching figures. Had 25 people watching a really (I mean 5 gbp) item & no bids. I figured anybody interested would make an offer, so just put it on for what was paid & see. Nothing ventured, nothing gained Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 11:28:14 Still available and open to (sensible) offers
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Coca Fola on Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 13:08:21 I think it's time to give up.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: carbonwhite on Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 17:11:18 2.5k :girlgiggle: no chance mate. Your asking for sensible offers maybe you should put it at a sensible price.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: red sheldon on Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 21:18:01 I always hoped that within the re-development that Town would have created a museum, and this would have been ideal for it.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 12:44:17 I always hoped that within the re-development that Town would have created a museum, and this would have been ideal for it. the club did have interest in displaying it, but only if it was available on a Bosman. And given its value. I can't afford to do that Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 15:36:18 What fucking value?! You're the only person in the world that actually wants the fucking thing. It's basically worthless in a financial sense.
Here's a Man U treble winners medal for £110. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MANCHESTER-UNITED-TREBLE-WINNERS-MEDAL-SET-WITH-COA-/130729887878?pt=UK_SportsMemorabilia_Football_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item1e701bc886 Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 15:42:28 Not strictly true. At £110, or anything up to £500 maybe, you'd have quite a few takers I would imagine. The value of anything is, basically, the value that a potential buyer is willing to pay. Given that no one - and not even the Club - is willing to pay £2,500 tells you that, simply put, the medal is not worth £2,500.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 15:45:18 Not strictly true. At £110, or anything up to £500 maybe, you'd have quite a few takers I would imagine. The value of anything is, basically, the value that a potential buyer is willing to pay. Given that no one - and not even the Club - is willing to pay £2,500 tells you that, simply put, the medal is not worth £2,500. This is a harsh reality, the chance of making back what you paid is pretty unlikely it would seem.Fair play to you for trying though but your valuation (or value to you) is obviously higher than the actual value to other people. Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: otanswell on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 15:47:00 my local captain cash pawn brokers do a buy back scheme if thats any help? :D
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: 4D on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 15:47:11 Bought for £2486 in 2005.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: walcot red on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 15:47:44 I could give 2500 greek drachma.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 15:54:11 I wouldn't part with more than £50.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 15:56:24 If you were going to accept £250, I'd send you the cash today. Not what you want to hear, I appreciate.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 15:57:08 I can offer you one million Zimbabwe dollars.
Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: otanswell on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 16:01:26 I can offer you one million Zimbabwe dollars. I can offer this too, I can pay by Western Union and ill throw in broadbandings too Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 19:58:13 I can offer this too, I can pay by Western Union and ill throw in broadbandings too I better send you my debit card number so you can pay me Title: Re: Harold Fleming 1910-11 Southern League winners medal Post by: leefer on Thursday, August 2, 2012, 20:10:14 I would pay what you are asking if i had the money...i would love to own it.
Do not sell it for peanuts.....you will always regret it. |