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apparently....

Are they trying to put together last years Swindon squad?

On loan until the end of the season.

Presumably they have an an injury and he is cover.

have reading realised they've signed a cart horse?

I must be one of the only few Swindon fans glad to see him go.

He's a liability.

There was a lot who was glad to see him go.....i wasn't one of them.

I was a bit meh when he went.

Not replacing him was the problem, a great big fucking obvious one at that.

I think that's slightly harsh. He is still young. Fair to say he isn't the finished article yet and time is ticking on...

I disagree with DV though. For me Cuthbert and Frampton are our starting 2 every day of the week. We have cover from LJF and (until recently) Flint. Not replacing Morrison wasn't key for me.

Yeah but we should have replaced Morrison with a defender that was better than Flint, LJF, Frampton and Cuthbert.

Like you i'd have Cuthbert and Frampton as my starting 2 from a poor choice of 4.

Someone like Greer then :)

**Runs and hides**

Seriously of course if there was better out there we should have brought them in. Perhaps that was the theory behind Misun. But that didn't go too well.

frampton is awful-Greer is 4 times the player he is

We've missed his attacking presence at corners and his long throw more than his defending (or lack thereof).

I do love how Greer has gone from a decent, mostly-solid player for us last season to become the greatest defender we ever lost. Memory is a funny thing, I've managed to forget all the shit things he did (other than that stamp) yet I can remember at the time I never thought he was that good. In fact, at the time I thought Cuthbert was better than Greer.

I think the centre backs are good. You defend as a unit, and its the full backs that have made us leaky (although we have tightened up a lot in the past 6 weeks). Caddis and Rose weak in defence.

Morrison's goals going forward needed replacing with a decent sized old fashioned centre forward (like Andrew). But we didnt need another centre back.

And Frampton is far from awful.

Without going over old ground Greer offered much more than just his technical ability. His experience was vital to us. Why else would Brighton pay £250k for him.

I completley forgot he didn't play for us anymore until I saw this thread!

i remember people saying cuthbert was better,and i remember aruging he wasn't.
i also said greer should be player of the year.
some of us could see how valuable he was when he was still here.

Still, at least you're not smug about it :)

 :D

Yeah...so valuable he fucked off at the first sniff of Faggotts in the fresh sea air.
He was good...........but not that good.

Come on leefer, cuthbert has been wank since he left.

No coincidence surely?

Not denying that tans....i liked Greer a lot.

Fact is though he was no world beater...far from it,in fact i would go as far to say that the Charlton away match showed he was a liability at times,and has had similar moments at Brighton.
Not doubting he was a good captain...he was,i am old fashioned and we pulled him off the scrapheap....he fucked off at the first opportunity after one season.........this is just my personal opinion.


His departure the cause of our problems?..................not for me,more to it than that.

leefer this has been done to death but,his value is blatantly obvious as is the huge void in his absence.
he didn't just fuck off either.he went about things in the right way and it was fitton who made the move happen.greer would have stayed.
he is much better than his replacement(morrison)proved to be.

Well obviously Reading didn't agree arriba..........they as i did feel Morrison is/was a very good prospect.
You are guessing that Greer would have continued his good form......well JPM,Cuthbert,Douglas,Ferry etc were all in good form as well last season....so what makes you think that Greer would have been the exception?
Fact is you dont...........dont try and convince me that the departure of Greer was the reason of our decline,one player just isn't that big.
Greer is playing in a good side full of confidence....wonder how good he would be in our team at present.

Lets agree to disagree arriba.

i'm not trying to convince you greer is the reason for our decline.he is a big part of it though.
that is pretty much the opinion of everyone at the club(board level included)
how reading value morrison has nothing to do with greer too.

Well you mentioned Morrison arriba.....not me..
As for the board and there opinions......well they havn't been up to much lately.....so personally i will stick to my opinions......not your's or there's.
A bit of a contradiction saying the board thought he is missed......they sold him.

It's not really a contradiction leefer. They sold him yes presumably because they didn't realise how much he would be missed (in common with many fans, but that's no excuse), they do now realise (sadly too late) quite how much we have missed him. I think arriba's point was pretty coherent tbh and equally I'm not surprised you're loath to take the board's opinion on players' worth as compelling evidence :)

i sometimes wonder if i'm typing in a foreign language.
i'm quitting this topic now for the sake of my sanity

My two penneth - IMO he was the key mainly due to the this reason. The counter argument is obviously be that this team may not be so hopelessly devoid of confidence with Greer in it. Lets not forget that when Greer first came in on loan at the end of the season he was a key player in keeping us up, when he came in to a team not exactly high on the confidence themselves at the time.