Title: I think its all over..... Post by: neilinlondon on Monday, February 28, 2011, 11:03:50 Don't often post on here but I can't see us getting out of this one. One bobble away from possible glory last season (yes I know that wud have only made it 1-1) to a complete dog of a season this time.
Think everything has been said abt why things are as they are. DW is getting longer go at things for last season which I guess is fair enough. Still the Gas are coming with us and we'll get 6 points off the Pox and revenge against Crawley....so its not all doom and gloom - just 99% doom and gloom C'est la vie. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, February 28, 2011, 11:32:22 Its 4 from 5 at the bottom at the moment. Yeovil have opened up a wee cushion. The next 3 matches are vital that we take 7 if not 9 points.
I have a really weird thought that even though they have been docked 10 points, Plymouth might stay up. They have nothing to play for really now and I think they might put together a run of 'no pressure wins' As for us, sadly I think we'll go down. Not nearly enough fight in the team. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: woolster on Monday, February 28, 2011, 11:39:41 Its 4 from 5 at the bottom at the moment. Yeovil have opened up a wee cushion. The next 3 matches are vital that we take 7 if not 9 points. i thought the same about plymuff, nothing to lose and it looks like there players have some fight in them unlike our shower :-[I have a really weird thought that even though they have been docked 10 points, Plymouth might stay up. They have nothing to play for really now and I think they might put together a run of 'no pressure wins' As for us, sadly I think we'll go down. Not nearly enough fight in the team. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Bewster on Monday, February 28, 2011, 12:28:01 9 wins out of 42 - that speaks volumes
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, February 28, 2011, 12:30:12 Agreed. I am aboslutely sick of reading that we have a talented bunch of players who are too good to go down. The results speak for themselves......I just hope that the majority of them jump ship or get thrown overboard at the end of the season and we keep only the ones that want to play for STFC.
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: ScillyRed on Monday, February 28, 2011, 13:30:08 3 points out of 33 isn't a bad run it's a meltdown - please someone do something - anything :blowup:
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Ardiles on Monday, February 28, 2011, 13:55:10 3 points out of 33 isn't a bad run it's a meltdown - please someone do something - anything :blowup: That is a truly terrifying statistic. We must be close to breaking a few records with this run, surely. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 28, 2011, 15:42:47 It can't be that far from being the worst run in the last 20 years or so, if not longer, I certainly cant think of a longer winless run off the top of my balding bonce.
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 28, 2011, 15:46:27 Scratch that! I just had a quick check and under Todd in the 1999-2000 seaseon we went from 25th October to 7th March winless, a run of 19 games.
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: london_red on Monday, February 28, 2011, 15:56:28 Scratch that! I just had a quick check and under Todd in the 1999-2000 seaseon we went from 25th October to 7th March winless, a run of 19 games. Christ that is awful. Remembering that has made me sorry for Chris Hay all over again as well. Thought he was a good little player stuck in those shit McMahon teams at the end of the 90's. Think he could have been class with some support in a better side. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Ardiles on Monday, February 28, 2011, 16:04:08 That season was dire. Proof that it doesn't really matter which division you play in...if you're losing, you're miserable.
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Arriba on Monday, February 28, 2011, 16:26:21 and we stayed up that year.
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Ardiles on Monday, February 28, 2011, 16:36:20 No we didn't...we finished bottom.
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, February 28, 2011, 16:36:37 and we stayed up that year. I wish people would stop offering glimmers of hope just when I have gotten used to the idea of relegation. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Benzel on Monday, February 28, 2011, 16:41:27 99-2000 we went down from Div 1. But Todd wasn't in charge that year.
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 28, 2011, 16:47:18 That season was dire. Proof that it doesn't really matter which division you play in...if you're losing, you're miserable. Don't think it's quite fair to compare crap seasons in Div2, with crap in Div 3. Div 3 is our natural terrain, whereas Div2 isn't. If we'd have gone up in the summer, how long before we imploded, maybe a season or two, and of course imploding at a higher level exposes you to better teams. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Langers on Monday, February 28, 2011, 17:08:08 3 points out of 33, that is absolutley horrifiic.
I think we have been way to slow to react this to many things, the selling of players and also Danny should have gone a long time ago. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, February 28, 2011, 18:10:46 The only reason weve still got a chance is because of Plymouths points deduction.
If we fail to win on saturday then we'll be dead and buried again. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Costanza on Monday, February 28, 2011, 19:17:35 I still think we'll survive.... No point in justifying my reasons as I think most have now resigned themselves to the drop!
Admittedly, the next two weeks could see my opinion change. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, February 28, 2011, 19:58:27 Scratch that! I just had a quick check and under Todd in the 1999-2000 seaseon we went from 25th October to 7th March winless, a run of 19 games. That was the season when we went into admin for the first time and we sold some of our better players on the cheap. When we broke our winless run against Huddersfield, it was memorable for the Dean Gorre sending off when he totally lost the plot. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, February 28, 2011, 20:14:41 I still think we'll survive.... No point in justifying my reasons as I think most have now resigned themselves to the drop! Admittedly, the next two weeks could see my opinion change. I'm with you on this but the next 3 games will decide it. 7 points minimum required. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Batch on Monday, February 28, 2011, 21:00:25 the Dean Gorre sending off when he totally lost the plot. Best sending off ever. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: A Gent Orange on Monday, February 28, 2011, 22:02:34 Best sending off ever. Indeed. And what was it all over? A thrown in wasn't it? Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Batch on Monday, February 28, 2011, 22:11:06 Indeed. And what was it all over? A thrown in wasn't it? I think so, that or he thought he was fouled and we got the throw in instead. Something like that. I just remember the mental strop, followed by a yellow card, followed by an even more mental strop, followed by a second yellow. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: reeves4england on Monday, February 28, 2011, 22:32:22 Saturday is the day that this season will turn around. We will win. We will find confidence. the corner will be turned.
Why? Because I'm going. And the last match I went to was Charlton away. (Either that or the superstitious nonsense will have no effect and we'll still look hopeless come 5pm on Saturday) Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: woolster on Monday, February 28, 2011, 22:45:02 Saturday is the day that this season will turn around. We will win. We will find confidence. the corner will be turned. i love the way some people seem to forget how shit we are after about 48 hours, blind faith, this so called shit walsall side will tear us a new arsehole, in wilson we are fuckedWhy? Because I'm going. And the last match I went to was Charlton away. (Either that or the superstitious nonsense will have no effect and we'll still look hopeless come 5pm on Saturday) Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Lumps on Monday, February 28, 2011, 22:46:50 Are you all the same people convinved we'd beat saints because "we only play well against good sides"?
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 12:39:16 i love the way some people seem to forget how shit we are after about 48 hours, blind faith, this so called shit walsall side will tear us a new arsehole, in wilson we are fucked In case it wasn't blindingly obvious, my post was firmly tongue-in-cheek.Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 13:06:29 As long as we're still in touch with safety then I won't write Swindon off.
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: DA15red on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 15:22:37 We still have an outside chance looking at the table and our upcoming games so I would normally be of the view that it's never over til its over. However, one definition of madness is doing the same thing time after time and expecting a different outcome and by this yard stick for me DW has gone completely bonkers.
Who is / was going to score our goals in this remarkable turn around that DW predicted in the press and programme? With current striker injuries and given that those left have failed could we have qualified for an emergency loan or signed someone out of contract? Why have the board backed DW for so long? As of the Carlisle defeat I would have taken any change (however mad - Gazza for manager) other than just hoping those who have got us in this position would suddenly come good. I hope we beat Walsall, D&R and Plymuff but IMO even if we do the Board sticking with DW and DW / the board sticking with a number of the squad was a case of the heart ruling the head and a bad business decision. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: stfcinbmth on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 15:23:47 As long as we're still in touch with safety then I won't write Swindon off. This Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 15:57:43 Who is / was going to score our goals in this remarkable turn around that DW predicted in the press and programme? With current striker injuries and given that those left have failed could we have qualified for an emergency loan or signed someone out of contract? Yeh. I can't believe we didn't get somebody like Grella from Leeds in.Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 17:22:25 As long as we're still in touch with safety then I won't write Swindon off. Fair play, but reality suggests something has gone spectacularly wrong..no idea what mind, and if there is any chance of remedial action. By way of illustration, on Jan 11th we were 5 points off the PO and 5 points off the drop line. Wilson was regretting a poor showing at Oldham, who were themselves on a poor trot. Our winless run then was 1game. Wilson still firmly believed at that point we were competitive in this league, how wrong he was.. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 18:26:51 http://inbedwithmaradona.com/paranormal-activity-spl-style/
"Norwegian defender Erik Pedersen was at the fulcrum of the United side that ransacked the league during that undefeated run in 1997. He was also part of the team that was so disappointing the following season. According to Pedersen it wasn’t a physical issue that caused the capitulation, it was all in the players’ heads. “I sometimes think it was because the players were so happy and they thought ‘this season we don’t have to work so hard and things will go well.’ The problem is they didn’t put in the same effort as they did before,” he said." Pedersen believes that the problem for sides who finish third isn’t the burden of increased expectations or the toll of European football, but complacency. “They relax and end up struggling. The players don’t go on holiday, but they’re not far away from it,” he said. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 18:53:59 Fair play, but reality suggests something has gone spectacularly wrong..no idea what mind, and if there is any chance of remedial action. By way of illustration, on Jan 11th we were 5 points off the PO and 5 points off the drop line. Wilson was regretting a poor showing at Oldham, who were themselves on a poor trot. Our winless run then was 1game. Wilson still firmly believed at that point we were competitive in this league, how wrong he was.. The situation is dire and I completely understand why people believe it's all over, it could very well be. It really doesn't look good. I consider the Leyton Orient loss as the point when Wilson should have probably been canned. However, I still look at it as 12 games remaining. Perhaps, it's because I'm an exile and am not watching how bad they are? I'm certainly not clutching hold to blind faith... It's mathematics for me and I won't condem Swindon until it's at least ridiculously bleak. Which if we're honest isn't the case, yet. We are shit but we are one of seven shit teams... Hopefully Colchester, Exeter and Brighton can do us favours this evening. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: RJack on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 19:16:39 On a brighter side at least the reserves won today away at a reasonably strong Baadiff team
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~2305287,00.html Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: pauld on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 19:57:21 We are shit but we are one of seven shit teams... Hopefully Colchester, Exeter and Brighton can do us favours this evening. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 19:58:59 Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 20:15:18 Even if we win the next 3 games we have some tough ones against top teams after. Any improbable rejoicing could be short lived.
Yours, Negative Nancy. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:18:51 Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Batch on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:19:09 Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:19:50 Fuck 'em. Scores weren't too bad until Walsall scored. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:20:43 Isn't that Ledesma fella decent? What on earth is he doing at Walsall?
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: NorwayRed on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:21:39 On a brighter side at least the reserves won today away at a reasonably strong Baadiff team http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~2305287,00.html So Myrie-Williams is on trial at STFC? "Young striker Billy Bodin sealed the win with the only goal of the game just after half-time." Hmmm.... Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: NorwayRed on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:23:07 http://inbedwithmaradona.com/paranormal-activity-spl-style/ "Norwegian defender Erik Pedersen was at the fulcrum of the United side that ransacked the league during that undefeated run in 1997. He was also part of the team that was so disappointing the following season. According to Pedersen it wasn’t a physical issue that caused the capitulation, it was all in the players’ heads. “I sometimes think it was because the players were so happy and they thought ‘this season we don’t have to work so hard and things will go well.’ The problem is they didn’t put in the same effort as they did before,” he said." Pedersen believes that the problem for sides who finish third isn’t the burden of increased expectations or the toll of European football, but complacency. “They relax and end up struggling. The players don’t go on holiday, but they’re not far away from it,” he said. Norwegians are clever! Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:23:50 So Myrie-Williams is on trial at STFC? "Young striker Billy Bodin sealed the win with the only goal of the game just after half-time." Hmmm.... Going by his cameo on Saturday he's nowhere near ready for the first team. Like a rabbit in the headlights. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:25:18 Going by his cameo on Saturday he's nowhere near ready for the first team. Like a rabbit in the headlights. Norge sometimes prefers to waiver factual events such as this ;) Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: leefer on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:26:50 Going by his cameo on Saturday he's nowhere near ready for the first team. Like a rabbit in the headlights. Yep along with eight or nine others on the day. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: pauld on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:36:04 Wankers. I think we tired them out on Saturday. All that traipsing back to the centre circle will take it out of youTitle: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: NorwayRed on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:39:25 Yep along with eight or nine others on the day. :soapy tit wank: Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Weasel on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:52:26 Shit. We're going down aren't we? I don't know why it's taken me until tonight to properly consider it. :suicide:
(Going down that is, not topping myself) Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:56:27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM
Upon learning that Walsall beat Southampton. Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Lumps on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 21:58:43 D&R have 3 games in hand on us and have won 4 and drawn 2 of their last dozen games, averaging 1.16 pts per game. I think they might pass us. I just hope to christ we stay above Plymouth. If they pass us after a 10 point penalty I'll just curl up and cry.
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Weasel on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 22:01:08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqOyZ37v-yA
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: woolster on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 22:02:57 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqOyZ37v-yA we are not down yet :DTitle: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 22:09:39 We have a game in hand over Walsall so I'm not giving up hope just yet. Needless to say, if we don't beat them on Saturday we really are fucked.
Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 22:24:32 Saturday is a must win now, without doubt.
I've reluctantly accepted Wilson is here now until the end of the season, so fuck it, going to forget everything that has gone before and get behind the players from the first whistle (until walsall score or the players show no response). Title: Re: I think its all over..... Post by: Maguire11 on Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 23:06:11 Every game is going to be our biggest game of the season, If we fail to win 2 out of next 3 i feel as if we are looking at another trip to Crawley...... but by this time DW might of done enough to get sacked, and we may have a squad that want to play for the badge!
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