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Rumours abound that they're going into Admin this week, possibly a "pre-pack" phoenix-company asset transfer job which would see the Japanese lot ousted, the other local directors stay in place and Ridsdale at the helm with his new investors and clean sheet. Like what Bates did at Leeds. If that does turn out to be the case, the League will fucking hammer them.

Although it could all be bullshit, obviously

While I wouldn't wish their situation on anyone, a 10 point deduction would be a huge boost to us.  Unfortunately, I'm just as worried about being overtaken by the teams below as catching the ones above at the moment.

That could help us out, right?

My missus is in Bristol this weekend and she mentioned last night that there are rumours down there that Rovers could go into administration.

Right, I'll start the rumour that Yeovil might go into administration too, just to make us feel a little better and have a few more straws to clutch at :)

Any straws are good straws

How the hell as it got to a point that we are relying on other teams in and around us to go into administration to save our season. Bloody hell.

I still think we have enough even if those team don't have points deducted.

Make it so :)

I was told that Rovers rumourlast night but didn't think anything of it... Only mentioned it because this thread emerged.

If we can just win a game, soon, then this could be a lifeline.

But at the moment, all 3 other teams in the relegation places look better than us.

Daggers will be deducted 10 points for fielding an ineligible player.

Erm, I was posting it as a general interest "Football clubs in trouble" thing more than from the point of view of it helping us out tbh

Of course you were ;)

They should be deducted the points for having that tosser Baz Savage

  Argyle troubles. Reporter for local TV asked question " was it true that the club were already in administration" question asked 3 times before a mumbled denial. http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Argyle-board-holds-crisis-talks/article-3243006-detail/article.html (http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Argyle-board-holds-crisis-talks/article-3243006-detail/article.html)

Yeah, that article was what prompted my post. A lot of them on pasoti seem to think they've already done a pre-pack job with Ridsdale now in charge and they'll just be unveiling it on Monday morning. Can't see they'd have turned it round that quick tbh, pretty sure that even with a pre-pack, you need to get creditors' agreement.

If someone told me now that the only way we were going to stay up would be due to four other teams going into Administration I would gratefully and unashamedly take it with both hands.

Edit: Yes I realise that probably is the only way will stay up.

 Plymouth Favs to go down, Do the bookies know something!! : Just picked up this http://www.statto.com/football/odds/england/league-one/relegation (http://www.statto.com/football/odds/england/league-one/relegation)

TBH I already had Plymouth as going down anyway. They are in freefall. It's a case of can we pick up more points than 3 other teams out of the six at the bottom. The answer I believe is yes, but a hell of a lot depends on Dagenham not getting much from there 4 games in hand

Admin "unlikely" today

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Buy-meetings-continue/article-3245967-detail/article.html

I reckon somebody will bail them out.

This season is like last season in reverse.  (Remember the way automatic promotion kept raising itself as a possibility after we had got used the idea it was the play offs or nothing?)

Just as you resign yourself to almost certain relegation, Plymouth provide the possibility of a get out...maybe.  It's the hope that kills you.

Keep the resignation.....I've got Muff to go with us and Wovers, one of Daggers or Saddlers will stay up. I'm favouring Daggers, been playing relegation football all season, so are built for the scrap.   

It has been confirmed that they are looking to appoint an administrator http://www.pafc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10364~2298502,00.html

I don't think this will stop us going down but will mean we wont finish bottom, I feel sorry for the fans when any club goes into admin.

BBC website says they are going to lose 10 points. YES YES YES YES!

I hope they don't go bust, but nothing more. All stems back to a rather unsavoury encounter at a service station.. and nice career move Mason.

Fucking terrible state of affairs......

http://www.pafc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10364~2298502,00.html

The Directors of Plymouth Argyle Football Club have today issued a 'Notice of Intention' to appoint an administrator as they continue to seek a solution to the Company's current cash flow problems.

This action gives the Club protection from Insolvency Action from Creditors, whilst at the same time allowing the Directors the opportunity to turn current expressions of interest into a permanent and lasting solution for the Club.
 
This action does not mean that the Club is in administration today nor does it assume that it will necessarily enter into administration at a future date. Further steps will depend upon the outcome of current discussions with potential investors.

Under current Football League rules and despite the fact that the action taken is not administration, Plymouth Argyle Football Club will be subject to a ten-point penalty under the League's Sporting Sanctions rule.

To allow the best options for the way forward to be independently assessed, David Hinchliffe from Walker Morris Solicitors has been appointed to work with Peter Ridsdale who will for the time being continue to act as an Independent Advisor to The Board.

We are out of the relegation zone!

Every cloud 'n all that.

I take it that they have to have the points deducted this season and not next like when Leeds were deducted 15 points ??

I believe the 10 points will be immediately and the Football League may well hit them with further points depending upon the terms of their Administration and more importantly the manner in which they exit it.

    Carlisle     29     7     41
    Exeter    30    -6    41
    Hartlepool    30    -14    40
    Tranmere    29    -4    37
    Sheff Wed    29    2    36
    Brentford    29    -5    36
    Notts C    27    0    35
    Yeovil    30    -15    33
   Swindon    32    -13    31
   Walsall    32    -18    30
   Bristol R    31    -28    30
    Dag & Red    28    -12    28
        Plymouth    31     -15   23

Finally some good news, the bookies are always a good indication. Change the manager and lets get moving...

The game against Walsall a week saturday is fucking massive.

Do or die.

Not an ideal way of bumping our chances of staying up, but I'll fucking take it.

Will Swindon fans now demand the change that is requred now we have been given a lifeline or will the board give Danny another chance to blow it.

Change the record

This. We need all the help we can get.

And to be fair. This should be one of the advantages of having a stable club doing it's best to run within its means.

Is there any chance any of the other clubs around us could do the same before the end of the season.

Wasn't there a rumour about Rovers being next?

hot to feel for the plymouth fans.  though mere survival is probably top of their agenda.

but nasty as it is it isn't our fault. so lets take this lifeline now.

I take it you are happy with the status quo and Division 2 status, and will continue to applaud the likes of Pericard and Timlin as we continue our downward slide.

Ignore

As a football fan I feel sorry for their fans but as a Swindon supporter i'm relieved we're out of the bottom 4. The games against Walsall and Dag and Red coming up at home are now vital.

spot on

Yep!

I feel guilty at feeling so pleased by this, as we know only too well how their fans are feeling. However for me Swindon > Plymouth.

fuck me what has it come to when everyone on here is sucking each others penis because muff have been deducted 10 points, fact of the matter is we are shit and have been since the end of last season, we are incapable of winning a game of football, this wont save us nor do we deserve it to, the only way we are staying in this league is if all the teams below us have points deducted, that would please that useless cunt wilson no end :smugfu:

Hopefully Wilson has been offered a new contract if we stay up.

Two scenarios, choose your preference:

- We stay up due to scraping a couple of results and Plymouth getting points deducted.
- We go down and Wilson gets the sack.

So which is it?

the teams below us will send us down pylmouth loing points wont save us

Fair enough, well dodged.

I just wonder whether some people want us to go down so that Wilson gets sacked as it appears the board will back him until that happens. Not suggesting you're one of those people, just asking.

Do they get docked 10 points even if they just issue a 'notice of intention' to appoint an administrator or do they actually have to be in administration before the league deduct them points?

Their rag has said just because they have issued a 'notice of intention' doesn't mean they will go into administration. They have done this so creditors can't demand money back in this period.

Does anyone understand this whole thing? I'm useless with these sorts of things!

We shouldn't be in this situation in the first place and yes I do feel bad/guilty for Plymouth but.................

as a club haven't we been through enough ?? Being unfairly demoted (fucking Spurs wankers), administration, being bled dry and almost to the brink of extinction by years and years of (can't think of a better word) cunts. Neil Ruddock, Diamond Mike - do I need to go on ?  

Anybody remember Denis Smith the Sunderland manger uncorking the champgne when we went down ?? Nobody on here is gloating we are just bloody thankful that maybe we might scrape through.

What's the rule on late payments to players?  Can't they terminate their contracts if they're not paid on time for a certain amount of months?  Could make for interesting times ahead. 

I demand you shut the fuck up.

We dont always get what we demand though. I think Wilson should have gone after the Yeovil game and he's taking us down. He isnt the right man for the job, so dont count me in with the Wilson supporters.

However, whatever we do or demand doesnt make a blind bit of difference. The board have backed their horse. Nothing we can do about it.

i would not want to see us go down just to get rid of him, he is on borrowed time
and be gone soon, just think plymouth losing 10 point wont save us

Totally agree with that, we're as good as down

Worked with Macari, Malpas  and Fred Ford but I do agree it is the replacement that is important, must be a motivator.

Can every team below us get docked 5 points each?  Will that save us?

Was it the fans which made the difference with malpas? I think fitton had set him targets to keep his job whatever the fans said and he failed with defeats to histon in the FA-Cup and whoever else it was.

What the fuck are you on about....

I don't think she/he knows

Just been confirmed, 10 point deduction!

WE ARE OUT THE BOTTOM 4!

Just got in from work and found out that Plymuff have been deducted 10 points. What a result. Always looked dodgy for them as soon as they appointed Ridsdale as 'consultant'.

The match two weeks tomoz at there's looks massive now.

Am I the only one feeling sorry for Plymouth, but at the same time slightly pleased at their misfortune, as we could benefit from it?

It's a pretty sad state of affairs when the only way I can see us beating relegation is due to another's team's mismanagement.  I bet Wilson is breathing a sigh of relief again tonight by suddenly being presented with this little lifeline.

If we don't make something from it, then we deserve to be relegated without any excuses.

I dont get any joy from another teams serious financial problems.  If this means we end up surviving then great but i'd rather do it by not being one of the 4 worst teams based purely on performances on the pitch.

I don't feel sorry for Plymouth in the slightest. They brought it upon themselves by spending money they don't have.

How would you feel if Plymouth stayed up and we got relegated, due to them having better players through spending more money than they could afford whilst we were prudent and within budget?

Plus they could have offloaded more players during the transfer windows. Of course the funny thing is that if they'd made Mason join us they might have avoided administration, so not getting out man has worked out pretty well for us.

It just means Argyle have booked 24th...they were bottom 4 bound anyway, we'll finish 23rd.

No, I think plenty of people feel exactly the same.

I wouldn't have wished that on any of the teams below us. Not even Rovers. But it's happened and the fact of the matter is we're now one of 5 clubs fighting for 2 survival spots, rather than one of 6. As has been mentioned, the game against Plymouth is now a big one - though I would argue that the games against Dagenham and Walsall are perhaps even bigger.

It is nice to be out of the bottom four, but I actually thought that Plymouth may well drop into the relegation zone all on their own anyway.  I haven't seen a form table, but I would have thought that we must be pretty much at the bottom of it.  I still believe we can outpoint the four or five teams around us, but I'm beginning to lose my belief that we will.

Still, come Saturday morning I'll be fancying us for at least a point.

The fans deserve better......they looked brilliant at Swindon,we didn't play to bad but the ripped us to shreds.

Let's see how we do in the remainder of the season,before we start shouting at the misfortune

of another club.He who laughs last and all of that.

Totally agree hence my point if this possible lifeline doesn't give us a kick up the backsides, we deserve to go down.

Good luck to them. Hopefully some of their many stay away fans will go back and give them some support.

I hope we survive on our own merits as opposed to their plight.

their misfortune really is a welcome boost for our plight.
 this news coupled with a new boss should be enough to get us out of trouble.oh....

Bet matey boy wishes he signed for us now.

I bet their fans and officials do too.

Over last 6 games, joint bottom along with Shef Weds.

Although we edge them on goal difference in that span  :)

Feel sorry for Plymouth and their fans. Of course we have all been there in those dark times. We may be shite but at least the club is healthy off the pitch.

As for staying up this doesnt exactly make me confident still. We still have 3 or 4 teams with games in hand on us. In my opinion we still have to beat Plymouth, Walsall and Daggers to even give us a chance of staying up.

Well we now climb out of the bottom four. Sadly for Argyle they're back where they were less than ten years ago. I still believe we will escape relegation and both the board and Wilson will have to a take long hard looks at their individual contributions to this seasons fiasco.

I expect that an escape from the drop ought to give Wilson the first third of next season to prove his credentials. That said the board will have to stick their hands deep into the piggy bank to get some decent players in to replace the dross that will inevitability be shed during the close season.

I think whether we stay up or go down, Wilson should be gone by the time the summer window opens.

Are you for real? Whatever happens Wilson needs to go as soon as the season ends.

I agree with much of what fatbasher posted.

People and go on and on and on and on and on and on about how Wilson must go but if we get survival then the 'project' will continue like it would if we finished 10th. We were so quick to forget our great 2009/10 campaign, I doubt we'll be so forgetful about this one. It'll be a clean slate - IF we stay up.

I still think we'll stay up but it won't be pretty.

I can't see Fitton offering Wilson a new contract and then seeing how he gets on for the first 10-15 games or so. Can you imagine if we lose on the opening day of the season, everyone would be moaning again. I can't see Fitton sticking by Wilson after May 7th.

You lot are deluded.....he is here for the long haul.

Get used to it.

Wilson will have been told he'll get a new contract if he keeps us up.

Do you reckon? I can't see it personally.

Getting stuffed by Rovers was the moment i realised that DW will be staying,if he was to be sacked that was the time........personally still think he can turn it around....having constantly to sell your best players dosn't help........ask Peter Reid...they looked shit hot at our place,look at them now.
Also the loss of Budgie Byrne has had a bigger effect than maybe we realise.

I agree I think Wilson should be a given a chance next season. He is a good manager regardless of this season imo. I would say this though, maybe an new number two and a specialist defensive coach. Sturrock had Blackley who got our defence water tight.

A fair few on TEF at least recognised that Byrne was an asset to the club. However, I don't think you need to go much further than the whole Greer-Paynter issue as to why this season has been a Shitfest.

Oh yeah and poor old Argyle.

What happened to the sushi munchers that bought them?

I think you're right Leefer.  I personally can't understand why the board have kept him in the job for so long and think they've made a massive mistake in doing so, but unfortunately my opinions are irrelevant.  


Do you mean this season, or if we go down to League 2 he'll bring us back up?  Unfortunately I don't share your optimism in the slightest.  I think Wilson's had his 'good' season with us.  We've been poor under him for 10 months now, which is longer than we were good in all honesty.  Agree with the statement around selling your best players, but is that ever going to change?  Seems unlikely, as we're in a better position off the pitch than we've been in years and it's still happening?  Also, he has still been given a fair bit of money to spend, albeit most if has been spent poorly.

I do think that the board will sever if we get relegated.

Dont get me wrong joteddyred......not overly impressed with him but lets be fair the team he had last year has been pulled from under him......his tactics are to negative at home i reckon.....tries to get average players to do things they can't do.
He has got in some expensive players......they have let him down and us.
All this he has lost the dressing room bollox......just an easy way to blame the manager.
They are paid well to do a profesional job...as he is.
For me his demeanour dosn't help him especially on match days....just for the moment i am remembering the good times of last season,and the odd few good matches this....Wednesday,Charlton etc.
Hears hoping for another shock Saturday ;D

Poor old Plymouth, not a great way to get out of the relegation zone but it may just turn out to be the turning point now to take the pressure off and grind out a few results.

Not read much about the new board except old Peter Risdale is involved.  On that note how on earth does Peter keep turning up in the game like the proverbial bad penny?  The only thing in his defence is like any good swordsman he pulls out at the right moment just in time for the cameras and glory shot.

I’ve not been as close to Town this season but one quick question for those in the know, has Danny Wilson brought in to many waifs and strays?  Looking at the players we have signed over the past 12 months there is no doubting the potential but a lot of them read like the Championship manager dream circa 2005.  They just don’t seem to have fulfilled their potential billing at various stages in their careers and on paper, at the top of their game, they look like they should be sniffing at the playoffs but instead we seem to have a collection of players to rival Battersea dogs home.

Although it goes against the general transfer policy but I wonder if we would have been better investing in a couple of Joe Royal’s proverbial dogs of war with a few scars and experience at this level instead of opting for players with potential pedigree at a higher level.

I've just pinched myself. I can assure you I'm real. It's your opinion as to whether Wilson stays or goes, however he who pays the piper calls the tune. Neither you or I pay the piper, the board will decide. If you read my post again I am assuming that he stays into next season and offer the possibility that a time frame for enhanced results will be set.

Yeah, continued by getting rid of the project manager who failed. 19th, 20th or 10th all failure.

They were sold a pup by the board so refused to put their hand in their pockets to fund them. 

Good piece on Matt Slater's Beeb blog:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/mattslater/2011/01/plymouth_calling_kagami_please.html

well if we stay up and wilsons here next season  brace yourselfs for another shit one,he needs to be gone at the end of the season at the latest

Just a thought, and this is by no means me saying Wilson should stay on... but IF we do stay up, what's to say Wilson won't get us going again next season? He took us from being a lower-end team to the play-offs in one year before... [/devil's advocate]

That's just it, the life of a lower division footy fan. It's a gamble either way. No one can be sure, you make a decision and then hope for the best

Nope Wilson is the anti christ and if he stays then he will rape and pillage our families and towns.

Can someone work out what will happen to the league table if Plymouth are liquidated and the results expunged? Will it leave us better off?

Will be worth knowing in case someone shoves a save Argyle bucket at me.

i think the mere fact that we lost at home to them makes that call an easy one. Let the fuckers go to the wall - as we get nothing taken off our points tally, ANYTHING that ANYONE else has taken off theirs will be a bonus.

The chances of Plymouth being liquidated between now and May have to be pretty slim don't they?? There's normally a good few months of messing around, and the odd appearance from Mr Andronikou before it gets to that sort of stage

Also, it is wrong to discuss this, fucking out of order.  Don't care what it means to us, it would be terrible if they went into liquidation.  Whether we move up a place or not hardly matters compared to a football club going under.  Franchise on the other hand - fuck 'em.

Please tell me they are not about to appoint Mr Andronikou as their administrator - he does have experience of football administrations - more than 1 as well

According to today's Guardian there is quite a real chance of liquidation. Ridsdale reckons they need 2-3 million to see out the season. Need a buyer or someone to stump up the cash in the next two to four weeks.

Hopefully, and most likely probably, they'll be saved but if not it's too big a place for them not to make a reasonably rapid return to league football.

Plymuff's directors last year seperated their ground into it's own 'holding company' (sounds familiar?), and the only shareholders are the directors. This is an article from last summer, and even then Plymuff's future didn't look good :

http://www.twohundredpercent.net/?p=8293

No, they've already indicated if they do go into administration it will be under the auspices of Brendan Guilfoyle

Why is it out of order?  The whole footballing creditors getting paid in full scam is just that so only going to be a matter of time until HMRC get their way in court and make an example of a football club to scare the shit out of the PL and FL.  Why not Plymouth?  After all they are treating their PAYE payments as an overdraft facility.

Why does that name ring a bell?  Has he been involved with some other clubs?

Discussing it is fine. Wanting it to happen is certainly morally wrong.

I think he did Palace's administration last season.

Leeds and Luton i believe.

Misunderstanding I think.  I meant that it was wrong to discuss how we could benefit if Plymouth went bust.


I guess the pigfarmer summed it up quite well.

morally wrong, my fucking jizz stained goat porn says it's not

Well then why on earth did you quote what I said and highlight the bit about the CHANCES of them going bust, rather than what pigfarmer said about the benefits?! My post was nothing more than a pragmatic response. I hadn't even thought about Plymouth going bust before May, let alone wished for it to happen or eyed up the potential benefit to STFC.

What a donkey! ;)

Maybe Fitton and co could go all loan shark on Rovers and Dagenham and Walsall, offer them some nice loans, and then boom them on the small print and force them into administration?

Easy safety.

Oops. :-[

donkey, you're having a mare

Plymouth look like they will only complete the season if the staff continue to do what theyve been doing since November, and continue to play for free.

I think this shows the perils of falling into foreign ownership. You cant apply the pressure to crack some heads together to get things sorted. The tax bills seem to be getting out of hand.

They'll be back, but as a different club.

Shit or bust day today, apparently, have to find £3m (or a good chunk of it) today or HMRC could force them into admin next week:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/plymouth_argyle/9414349.stm

And given that being in administration also costs money, if they can't fund the administration, there's a possibility they could just go under if the revenue of the business itself isn't sufficient to keep the administration running

Got a feeling Argyle could do the unthinkable and fold.......they have no chance of getting that kind of money unless they have a buyer/takeover.

Surely there is someone out there willing to take the club on.

I hope so as I don't ever want to see any teams fold, except possibly Poxford!

Franchise surely

And Franchise. Although they're not a football club, so don't really count

Oh yeah I tend to forget them!

Now officially administratored:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/plymouth_argyle/9414349.stm



At least they dodged the AA bullet.

Not to mention the HMRC landmine!

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Busybodies always welcomed !! (OK....so I added that)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/plymouth_argyle/9427611.stm

Looks like no wages for a while, especially the non-playing staff who have to go 2 months without any money.

Fuck off!  i put £3 in a bucket to pay the staff (exc players).

*BUMP*

shady won't be happy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/12898843.stm

Although if they don't sort something out with the ex-directors Todd and Gardner, there won't be a club to bid for.

And still it drags on. Decent gesture from the players though, making sure the office staff get priority in getting paid before them:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13142021.stm

Follows on from Peter Reid paying the leccy bill for the club, seems to be inculcating a good spirit down there.

C
Cheapskate monkey faced cunt....not in the playoffs so no floodlights!

You just don't see enough inculcating these days.

Believe it or not, these are the first recorded instances of the use of the words 'inculcate' or 'inculcating' in TEF history.  True story.  I just checked.

I see Plymouth are proposing to pay back <1p per £1 in their CVA. I hope these bastards have to pay their football debts off in full.

http://195.171.95.190/panda/reportreg/viewReport.asp

Look at that report. Page 7 of the creditors list. Its there in black and white. They owe us






4 pence.

Tried to follow the report link Batch posted and got this error message
How fitting. You could say the same of most football clubs' financial maladministration

Its all gone Pete Tong. Try here

http://www.pafc.pandareports.com/

and pick the Administrators Proposals and CVA Proposal. It's page 78 of the PDF.

Shit, they owe Southport 50 grand! Nearly as much as all FL clubs combined. That's a massive amount for Southport and as they're non-League I don't think they fall under the football creditors' rule.

How long will they take to pay us the 0.0308p they owe us? And will we get interest on it?

One of the most appalling things about all this (as with most football clubs' CVAs but the more so here at 0.77p in the £ to unsecured creditors which is basically nothing) is that the goons primarily responsible come ahead of St Johns Ambulance, the poor sods running local businesses who can ill afford to be taking several grand hits etc. And there's nothing to stop these "respected businessmen" walking into any club in the land and doing it all over again. About time some of these arseholes were banned from football for life and started facing jail time.

Club owners or certain administrators

With such a meagre offering to creditors its got to be piss easy for the creditors to go fuck it and not back the administration

They are in the shit but better than us with 10 points deducted......I feel shit!

Both

I see the CVA passed @ 0.77p/1£.

They have now entered into an exclusivity deal with an unnamed party. Wonder what Best Holdings are up to?!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/default.stm

http://143.252.148.202/sol/homepage/sport/football/3655583/Kari-Arnason-was-sacked-by-Plymouth-Argyle-because-he-wanted-paying.html

Players have reportedly not been paid since October! If the CVA is in place, what the hell are they up to?!

Is he any good? Sign him up!

Alreading going to Hearts on trial.

Two Trainwrecks, One Summer: The Kari Arnason Story.

we don't want that kind of cunt here, imagine wanting to be paid for doing a job! the fucking nerve

Caught the end of Fallon on Talksport saying some of the players hadn't been paid for 6 or 7 months.

He also said he has offers from league 1 and 2 clubs and would play there, but was hoping to stay in the championship....

They still are effectively in administration. There was a story a few weeks ago that Ridsdale was going to the FL Conference on Plymouth's behalf but the administrator went in his place.

Didn't they have to be out of admin before the fixtures come out

as if things couldn't get worse

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13927267.stm

At the risk of going all 'Phil_S'....the more farcical and shambolic the shenanigans going on down there get...the more grateful you have to be that we have people at the helm who are apparently able to run a football club in a minimal loss capacity
(alledgedly)

No, before the start of the season.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14234320.stm

The second player in a week to do a U turn and leave them. Maybe more to it then meets the eye perhaps.....

Compelling personal reasons = I like to be paid on time

If not on time...at least some time.

I'd take Elding here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14749794.stm

Senior Plymouth players going on strike?

They all have bills to pay, you can sort of understand it.

Fair fucks to peter reid, even he was standing up for them on ssn earlier.

How have the lasted this long? Last week I read that that they HAD to have everything sorted by August 25th.

A sad demise.

Fair play to them. I won't cross a picket line, so I'll be boycotting Plymouth games until this is sorted out.

I guess the fact they said last week funding was in place (for the takeover) bought them time.

Hope it isn't a Best Holdings scenario.

It's a fucking mess, but you expect that with Ridsdale around. Saying that I'm surprised they were allowed to kick off the season in admin, as previously sides had to be out of admin to start the season.

Seems to be entering the end game, with the current bidded playing the "I'll pull out" card if it isn't done today", and the administrator playing the "invite new bids" card.

http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/story-13287124-detail/story.html

Boy were we lucky to get Fitton et al.

Though it could be worse:

As always, one rule for one, and one for another

At the risk of going all "Jimmy Onions"....the more farcical and shambolic the shenanigans going on down there get...the more grateful you have to be that we have people at the helm who are apparently able to run a football club in a minimal loss capacity
(alledgedly)

:-)
Come on Phil, lets hug it out....  ._0_. 
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I'm assuming this did not go through yesterday and their investors are still hanging around....as they want the land, they have no interest in the football willing to sell it is Ridsdale for £1

Should have been thrown out of the football league IMO
Whi wants to play for free???

I'll do it. I've got friends in Plymouth so I'll find a sofa to crash on easily :)

Peter Reid now sacked from plymouth

Whos going to take that job?

that's harsh, they should be thankfull to have anybody.  he paid their electric bill too

He probably got a bit above himself and asked Risdale for his wages.

Heard they sacked him because he wanted to change supplier to edf energy

excellent :)

Rumours that Paul hart going there

As if they haven't suffered enough...

Very harsh sacking, not sure he could have done much more with what he had.

Jeeze, they are in such a mess.

Who's going to do a better job with next to no money? Stupid sacking.

Ridsdale to be the next manager? Who's going to be stupid enough to go there?

Paul hart ;)

Just a tad short sighted I would say

Think this is why he got the sack..

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11750_7187027,00.html

Fingering his defenders.  No guarantee that Paul Hart wont do the same.  Always had the look of a bit of a perv.

Its the tracksuit

Defending maybe, but scored 3 goals in 9 games?

On the bigger picture Plymouth will reach the playoffs now because it was only Reid preventing them doing well.

I really hope that was tongue-in-cheek.

 :D

Always thought Hart had a look of Boy George in him. Hope the energy bills get pass on to old Harty.

Have to be honest I don't know the ins and outs but it seemed like Reid has gone above and beyond what should be expected (off the pitch certainly) in his efforts at Plymouth, and their league position can hardly be blamed on him.

If there's nothing more to it than on pitch form behind his sacking that seems pretty deplorable, although to be expected I suppose from a cunt like Risdale.

Got to feel for Plymouth fans, a cautionary tale of how fast things can go massively tits up. Sure, I'm gutted we're in div4 but situation could be a lot worse.

Plymouth were by far the worst 'footballing' side I have ever seen at the CG, when they visited last year. Horrible style of football, so in truth, it's good to see them where they belong right now. Hopefully the new manager might try and play a  bit of football and see them climb the table a little. Reid is a terrible manager who should (but won't) struggle getting a new management job.

They were still better than us!

Looks like they've appointed their captain Carl Fletcher as manager.

To put it into context, he's just five months older than the Football League's current youngest manager; Karl Robinson (Franchise).

Quite the gamble/cheap option.

Hate to say it, but Karl Robinson seems to be doing a good job so far :( Maybe Fletcher will do the same.

I've always thought Fletcher was a good player, surprised he's still there to be honest.

Peter Reid should have brought down the Gypo cheating coke snorting tax avoiding dwarf Maradona in the World Cup when he scored that goal. He deserves the bloody sack for that alone.

Only as caretaker though not full time, although they havent ruled out becoming permanent.

25 years ago, time to let it go...

Risdale is stepping down (again)... That's progress, right?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15035687.stm

Apparently any potential deal is still weeks away. It's almost inevitable that their new dawn will begin when Swindon come to town and we'll lose 2-0 :)  :doh:

Its bound to happen. Also, their 2-0 win will put them above us in the table, FML (i've not used Fml before and thought now was a good time)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15314429.stm

Administrators threaten to walk out on Monday over threats.

smoke and mirrors they will still be there tuesday

If they walk out will I get a refund on my ticket for Saturday?

TBH, while I sympathise with Plymouth, this has gone far too long and I no longer give a shit about them.  Either sort it out or kick them out of the league ASAP.

It's hard now pauld's not here to rally the workers :)

I find myself agreeing with this comment.

You going Saturday JJ

Complete opposite for me, the fans have been screwed over by owners and former owners and the administrators have been farting about for months and fucked up.

Very similar to our situation a few years back

Yes mate will be there, we got a weekend in Brixham as its our wedding anniversary on the Friday, Plymouth on the Saturday and then the Special in Plymouth on the Sunday.

While I feel sorry for the Plymouth fans, and it is also a very similar predicament to ours as you rightly state Si, but, I have had enough of it constantly being on TV down here and a large amount of Plymouth fans I know locally are arrogant fuckwits, I have just had enough of it all.

Administrator in not derailing the gravy train shocker:

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/Guilfoyle-withdraws-threat-quit-club/story-13564533-detail/story.html

Should never have been allowed to.start the season imo

Bloody typical, they could get a lift for Saturday's game

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15365885.stm

Yeah I saw that and thought exactly the fucking same. Grrrr.

Looks like they've been saved then.

By who?

David Brent....

James Brent.

My Twitter feed is absolutely clogged up with the news, owing to one Plymouth fan retweeting absolutely every PAFC-related tweet.

Saved financially...but whether they remain a League side next season is another matter.

Pleased for them, mind.  They have been irritating in the past (particularly when Sturrock went back there), but I would not wish them to go out of business.

Indeed. Good luck to them (they need it).

I remember how happy I was when Fitton (et al) took over and saved us. And I still am.

Plymouth = quality away day.

Quality away weekend more like

Especially when we win there...

Out of admin today