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Title: Right or Wrong
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 13:01:16
It looks as if Ian Holloway will get a cut of any monies sold if Charlie Adam leaves Blackpool.

Do you agree with this? In a way its a good idea, as if a manager finds a player on the cheap then sells them on for a massive profit surely he deserves a cut? Would you like it if DW received profits from Austin transfer- or was it Fitton that instigated the move intially?


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 13:02:08
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3373601/Ian-Holloway-will-get-a-cut-of-any-Charlie-Adam-transfer-fee.html


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 13:03:22
If it's written in the contract when he signs then fair enough I say. Plenty of other jobs have financial incentives for good performance, and making the club a few million quid counts as good performance in my book.


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: walrus on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 15:51:01
Yes, but it should be capped.  If, for arguments sake, Adam signs for Liverpool for £12m and Holloway pockets 25%, that's £4mil away from Blackpool's coffers, which is very unfair.  It also makes the decision of whether or not to sell less clear i.e.: if Charlie Austin was leaving for 2 mil, but Wilson was to pocket £500k, would we be so resigned to sell?

Unfortunately, money leaking out of football into other pockets i.e.: agents is a part of life, but there needs to be strict laws governing it.  When league one football is costing £20 to watch, yet players are netting over and above what they're worth in the real world, it needs to take a good, long, hard look at itself.

Not wanting to harp on about Charlie Austin, but what would he earn in the real world if he was still laying bricks?  He'll now be looking to earn a similar amount in just a week, purely because he can find the back of the net.  It's wrong, but it is so inbed into the sport that it seems impossible to eradicate.


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: redbullzeye on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 15:56:32
If it's fair he gets a % when a player is sold for a profit, it must also be fair to deduct a % if he buys someone and Blackpool then sell him on at a thumping loss!  Bet that won't happen though.


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: Boeta on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 15:57:03
it's probably 5% of the profit - which seems like a good way to run a business to be honest


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: nevillew on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 16:06:51
Yes, but it should be capped.  If, for arguments sake, Adam signs for Liverpool for £12m and Holloway pockets 25%, that's £4mil away from Blackpool's coffers, which is very unfair.  It also makes the decision of whether or not to sell less clear i.e.: if Charlie Austin was leaving for 2 mil, but Wilson was to pocket £500k, would we be so resigned to sell?

Unfortunately, money leaking out of football into other pockets i.e.: agents is a part of life, but there needs to be strict laws governing it.  When league one football is costing £20 to watch, yet players are netting over and above what they're worth in the real world, it needs to take a good, long, hard look at itself.

Not wanting to harp on about Charlie Austin, but what would he earn in the real world if he was still laying bricks?  He'll now be looking to earn a similar amount in just a week, purely because he can find the back of the net.  It's wrong, but it is so inbed into the sport that it seems impossible to eradicate.

Well, £3m anyway.


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 16:20:00
Nothing wrong with it - provided it's in his contract and done the right way as opposed to back handers. I guess he might be on a lower salary with various performance bonuses like that, best way of paying people and running a business.


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: pauld on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 16:54:02
IIRC Mike Newell had a similar deal at Luton


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 16:54:57
I wonder how many other managers have this sort of thing in their contract.

It's nice to see a manager so open and honest for a change.


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 16:57:14
Dennis Wise had a deal where he got a bonus if we got a certain attendance didnt he?


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: pauld on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 17:01:18
I wonder how many other managers have this sort of thing in their contract.
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Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: DV on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 17:03:12
If Holloway has any sense he'd be better off putting the money back into the club. I expect his staying up bonus is worth alot more.


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: nevillew on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 17:05:22
Dennis Wise had a deal where he got a bonus if we got a certain attendance didnt he?

I thought that was Ince, but it may have been both of them.


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 17:58:43
They've just been fined 25 grand for fielding a weakned side against villa, so if Holloways a man of word he should be resigning soon


Title: Re: Right or Wrong
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 18:06:32
 Quite often peeps lower down the food chain have it written into their contract they're entitled to a cut from the trough when a player they've discovered or brought on, gets moved on for a fat fee.

 Such a case happened at Watford recently where their scout was entitled to a cut of the Ashley Young wonga...he needed to go to court to get it.