Title: LJF Post by: RJack on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 08:58:54 could soon be leaving the club as we've received an offer for him from Swansea according to BBC Radio Swindon
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Riddick on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:02:50 The adver story detailing another CB joining in addition to Flint makes more sense now then.
Hope he's got the forwards lined up to replace Charlie! Title: Re: LJF Post by: RJack on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:16:25 I know we don't know who this young centreback is but why sign another young centre back if we have Aden Flint, isn't it experience we need in the team?
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Berniman on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:17:19 Swansea?? Are you sure?
Title: Re: LJF Post by: welshred on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:18:11 I know we don't know who this young centreback is but why sign another young centre back if we have Aden Flint, isn't it experience we need in the team? Doesn't matter how old he is if he's any good! Title: Re: LJF Post by: Arriba on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:18:33 ljf has shown that alongside an experienced defender he can do very well.why flog him to get in another young-un?
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:25:36 Maybe everyone wants to leave arribaa
Title: Re: LJF Post by: A Gent Orange on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:28:00 'Young' is relative. Some 24 year olds could have played a hundred games and captained the team, like the one from Bournemouth who scored against us.
Title: Re: LJF Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:30:25 Swansea? As in 4th place in the Championship Swansea? Or is there an AFC Swansea who ply their trade in the Welsh leagues?
Seems odd that LJF could be playing at a better placed club than Charlie. Title: Re: LJF Post by: mrverve on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:30:50 Lecsy is our best defender technically. Much like the other young defenders this year they need a decent experienced centre half along side them.
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Nemo on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:32:39 Doesn't matter how old he is if he's any good! Absolutely this. We've signed plenty of shit older players under the guise of experience- Hi Lilian Nalis. Title: Re: LJF Post by: tans on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:33:57 LJF in the prem :D (if they go up)
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:38:00 Surely just an agent pimping his player to flush out real offers?
Title: Re: LJF Post by: LucienSanchez on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:42:13 Nnnnngggghhhhh.... still no Greer or Morrison replacement, another defender off, and no sign of a Charlie replacement or second striker we've missed all season. I don't rate this season.
Title: Re: LJF Post by: eastoe on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:02:25 Lecsy is our best defender technically. Much like the other young defenders this year they need a decent experienced centre half along side them. Very good technically yes, but his concentration levels and positional play are at times questionable to say the least.He was responsible for the goal against Yeovil and at least one goal against Rovers,I for one would not be sorry to see him go.Title: Re: LJF Post by: juddie on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:04:13 There's something there with Lecs, but we can't afford to keep persisting with him, so good business IMO. Might be worth trying Flint and Framps in the middle and Cutho at right-back?
Title: Re: LJF Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:04:33 could soon be leaving the club as we've received an offer for him from Swansea according to BBC Radio Swindon i'll even drive him there. worst defender sinse Duke IMO Title: Re: LJF Post by: mrverve on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:04:44 Very good technically yes, but his concentration levels and positional play are at times questionable to say the least.He was responsible for the goal against Yeovil and at least one goal against Rovers,I for one would not be sorry to see him go. Thats why he would need an experienced defender next to him to help with positional play etc. Look at Cuthbert last season with Greer, he was unbelievable for us. Title: Re: LJF Post by: corner on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:06:04 Very good technically yes, but his concentration levels and positional play are at times questionable to say the least.He was responsible for the goal against Yeovil and at least one goal against Rovers,I for one would not be sorry to see him go. His long ball distribution is the best at the club at the mo!!Title: Re: LJF Post by: Benzel on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:07:38 Will be sad to see him go if this has any truth in it.
Title: Re: LJF Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:07:40 Bullshit. From the horse's mouth.
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:19:33 There's something there with Lecs, but we can't afford to keep persisting with him, so good business IMO. Might be worth trying Flint and Framps in the middle and Cutho at right-back? Well put. I'd go more with the "pissing my self laughing and running all the way to the bank" reaction if this were to happen, which it won't. Title: Re: LJF Post by: juddie on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:21:36 Doesn't say much for swansea's scouting network though, does it?
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Sippo on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:21:47 There's something there with Lecs, but we can't afford to keep persisting with him, so good business IMO. Might be worth trying Flint and Framps in the middle and Cutho at right-back? Why?!! Amankwaah was quality on tuesday and we also have Caddis. Cuthbert isn't a rightback. Gets sucked over way too much. Title: Re: LJF Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:24:02 oo-err
Title: Re: LJF Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:24:27 In the few games he's played at CB for us he's more often than not been the best defender and regularly the motm. Plus he's the best passer, especially long balls, we've got in defence and he puts plenty of decent crosses in to the box. Makes me laugh the way some people continually highlight the odd mistake he makes as they are seemingly oblivious to the catalogue of mistakes all the other defenders make.
I'm not sure we make the most of him though. He doesn't push forward enough and might, and it's a big might, be more suited to a midfield role. If we need a holding midfielder and Douglas is out, we could do a lot worse than give him a run out there. At worst though he can provide cover at LB and CB, with money always an issue it's worth keeping him around just for that. Title: Re: LJF Post by: pauld on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:26:02 Bullshit. From the horse's mouth. Well someone should look at what they've been feeding the horse thenTitle: Re: LJF Post by: juddie on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:28:18 Why?!! Amankwaah was quality on tuesday and we also have Caddis. Cuthbert isn't a rightback. Gets sucked over way too much. Why not? Caddis hasn't played too well this season IMO and Amankwaah, well we can do better than that, no? Fair enough, if he played ok in the week he deserves a run, but neither caddis or manky have been convincing for me. Just my opinion, like. Our defence has been a joke all season, so I have no qualms in seeing anyone sold as long as they're replaced. If Wilson is selling Lecs/Austin today he must have something up his sleeve. if not, hello Port Vale! Title: Re: LJF Post by: welshred on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:34:26 Why?!! Amankwaah was quality on tuesday and we also have Caddis. Cuthbert isn't a rightback. Gets sucked over way too much. If you think Amankwaah was quality on Tuesday you need your eyes testing mate. Ok, he didn't do anything too horrendous, but 'quality'? Nope. Title: Re: LJF Post by: Benzel on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:49:56 First game in how long, welsh?
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:51:13 That's not the point benny.The point is was he quality?
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Arriba on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:55:40 whenever a goal is conceeded and jfl is in camera shot, he gets the blame.
i've not read 1 comment about the goal we let in against yeovil naming cuthbert at fault.he made 2 errors for that goal. sheehans pass blasted at him vs rovers wasn't his fault either.where were the midfielders to collect the ball from sheehan? if they had offered an option then sheehan wouldn't have fucked up like he did. collective mistakes cause the vast majority of goals any team conceeds.alot of fans don't see that and single out individuals.... Title: Re: LJF Post by: Benzel on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 11:00:26 That's not the point benny.The point is was he quality? No better or worse than anyone really. Linked up with JP and caused them a couple of problems.Title: Re: LJF Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 11:00:38 whenever a goal is conceeded and jfl is in camera shot, he gets the blame. i've not read 1 comment about the goal we let in against yeovil naming cuthbert at fault.he made 2 errors for that goal. sheehans pass blasted at him vs rovers wasn't his fault either.where were the midfielders to collect the ball from sheehan? if they had offered an option then sheehan wouldn't have fucked up like he did. collective mistakes cause the vast majority of goals any team conceeds.alot of fans don't see that and single out individuals.... Nowhere near his man for Rovers 3rd goal though, striker had a free header and Lescinel just watched him and did not challenge. Title: Re: LJF Post by: juddie on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 11:01:52 whenever a goal is conceeded and jfl is in camera shot, he gets the blame. i've not read 1 comment about the goal we let in against yeovil naming cuthbert at fault.he made 2 errors for that goal. sheehans pass blasted at him vs rovers wasn't his fault either.where were the midfielders to collect the ball from sheehan? if they had offered an option then sheehan wouldn't have fucked up like he did. collective mistakes cause the vast majority of goals any team conceeds.alot of fans don't see that and single out individuals.... that's the point arriba, they've all been poor - as a unit, individually - which is why i'm not upset at any of them going. freshen up, can't be any worse. Title: Re: LJF Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 11:12:11 Nowhere near his man for Rovers 3rd goal though, striker had a free header and Lescinel just watched him and did not challenge. Don't think anyone disagrees with that, it was his man and he allowed him a free header. But some people were blaming him for the other one which is just plain stupid. Smith probably shouldn't have given the ball to Sheehan who in turn should have done anything with the ball except what he did. No blame at all for LJF for that goal. Unfortunately as Arriba said, if LJF is in shot he gets the blame and more often than not others are to blame or heavily involved. Plenty of times last season he got the blame for goals where he was out of position, when the only reason he was out of position was to cover for another defender that had gone on walkabout and the rest of the team (especially the midfield) didn't do their job to cover the gap he left behind. Title: Re: LJF Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 11:25:09 Don't think anyone disagrees with that, it was his man and he allowed him a free header. But some people were blaming him for the other one which is just plain stupid. Smith probably shouldn't have given the ball to Sheehan who in turn should have done anything with the ball except what he did. No blame at all for LJF for that goal. Unfortunately as Arriba said, if LJF is in shot he gets the blame and more often than not others are to blame or heavily involved. Plenty of times last season he got the blame for goals where he was out of position, when the only reason he was out of position was to cover for another defender that had gone on walkabout and the rest of the team (especially the midfield) didn't do their job to cover the gap he left behind. Agreed the 2nd was Sheehans fault, I am more surprised this year by how many people think Sheehan is our strongest left back and want to see him playing more. I think since coming back permanent this season he has been very poor, I would play Rose, Lescinel and Kennedy ahead of him currently. Title: Re: LJF Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 11:59:53 liability
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Power to people on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 13:32:56 I'd let him go as long as we have a decent enough replacement lined up, the defence needs an overhaul so letting him go is fine, isn't he out of contract end of season as well ?
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 13:45:57 I think the midfield needs to shoulder as much of the blame as the defence for goals against this season.
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Anteater on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 13:55:15 Would be disappointed to see him go. IMO he has improved in his time with us, he remains one of the few defenders with genuine pace and has shown he can play a decent ball out to feet as oppose to the general hoofing that has crept back in lately. I thought he and Manky looked decent as full backs V Transvestites the other night, as good as we've had for a while anyway.
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 14:00:17 I think the midfield needs to shoulder as much of the blame as the defence for goals against this season. Yep. I watched Arsenal the other night, yeah not great example I know, but it was stright after watching us, so provided great contrast. Their midfielders, all of them, would come back to meet the defence and pick up the ball. They'd provide lots of options for the defence and for their fellow midfielders once someone's picked it up. At any given time there was more than one player within 10 yards of the player on the ball making himself available. There were times on Tuesday where our midfield was so far forward, our defence had not zero options beyond "The Heywood". It's like throw ins, my new pet hate, why do we always seem to get in a right two 'n eight over something so simple. No one wants the fucking ball at the moment. It most matches it looks like some of our players need to grow some bollocks. Title: Re: LJF Post by: jimbob on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 14:21:30 That is down to Wilson I believe Barry - I remember during the first quarter of the season we were playing too much football (unbelievable I know) in the wrong areas so Wilson changed it to percentage football i.e. get the ball in the opposition's last third and play from there rather than in our own half.
Title: Re: LJF Post by: juddie on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 14:22:28 Personally I think we've chopped and changed the back line because all combinations have been poor in Greer's absence. The midfield central pairing hasn't worked all season and Smith isn't as dominating behind. All of these things have contributed to a general disorganisation.
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Langers on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 14:30:13 What have Swansea been watching?!
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 14:48:10 What have Swansea been watching?! Heroes. They heard he's Haitian and hoped he had the same powers. Title: Re: LJF Post by: pauld on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 14:48:42 Ha ha brilliant
Title: Re: LJF Post by: Langers on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 14:52:25 Heroes. They heard he's Haitian and hoped he had the same powers. Very good. Title: Re: LJF Post by: DV on Thursday, January 27, 2011, 14:52:27 Agent putting his players name about as they want to leave here.
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