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Wilson: 'Austin transfer request down to immaturity'
           


  CHARLIE Austin’s immaturity as a professional footballer played a major role in his decision to ask for a transfer, according to Danny Wilson.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/8804288.Wilson___Austin_transfer_request_down_to_immaturity_/?ref=rss
           

mmmmmm - I smell a smokescreen

Shrewd move by Danny though - it will deflect the flak from Charlie tomorrow somewhat.
Gashead fans will have a field day though with the "immaturity" tag. They will be chucking dummies at him

Shouldn't play again for STFC....

Or it's for real. Never made a mistake Reg?

This whole episode is embarrassing. I think all parties have had a role to play in the circus that has occured over the past week. The club slagging off Charlie for going public then your manager patronising you publicly by calling you immature. good work.

When I have, then I've expected to take the consequences.  In Austin's case that's moving on with the opprobrium of the fans ringing in his ears.

If no one forgives your mistakes though, it's a pretty lonely world.

But this is football we're talking about not the real world....Austin has committed a cardinal sin.

Agreed

He has committed the "cardinal sin" of being young, being immature, being basically under-educated, spoilt, blissfully unaware of the consequences of his actions, badly advised by his agent, not living in the real world anymore, and basically just a bit daft.
Which could be a description of 99% of professional footballers under the age of 23.

He hasnt done an El-Hadj Diouf, he hasnt done a Ballotelli, he hasnt disrespected the club or its fans. He has simply been monumentally dumn in how he went about asking for a chance to better himself. End of.

Its no different to any of us in the real world sending out our CVs to someone we'd like to work for. except that when no one replies to our advances, it doesnt make the papers and make us look stupid.

Good on the club for holding out for the price they know he's worth - so far. We have caved in in the past, and even in the recent past (morrison) whether it was in the clubs power or not. When Charlie learns a bit of maturity he'll be a better player for it

He has disrespected the club and the fans though! I dont blame him for wanting to climb the football ladder but there are ways of going about it. He is playing well and his chance would have come soon enough (Probably this month).
Wilson should not play Austin tomorrow! He has made it clear he wants away and therefore should not make the starting lineup. I will lose alot of respect for the manager if I see number 32 on the team sheet!

Seems to me Charlie's agent painted him into a corner on Monday in the assumption it would precipitate a rush of bids. Which rather suggests he doesn't have much in the way of direct contacts himself. Silly agent.

And now the club are offering Charlie a route out of that corner - up to him if he wants it

Agree with this...

I hope Charlie plays at the weekend.

A lot of people on here argue that football is just a business (I agree) - he is our asset at present, he also happens to be our best/only goal threat, It would be bad business not to play him.

FWIW, I hope he is here for the rest of the season. I see Wilsons comments as an olive branch.

I think he should play at the weekend, however i think he may be gone by the end of the month

what the fuck do you mean, " he HAS disrespected the club and the fans"............. utter bollocks.

Wilson disrespects the fans a lot more by expecting us to pay to watch fucking Pericard every week, when we can go down the rec on a sunday morning and see more skillfull players, playing with hangovers.

Arsenal didnt drop Fabregas when he said he's like to go to Barcelona.

Liverpool dont drop Torres because he says he wants to play in Europe next year.

dropping the only chance we have of scoring against rovers is a stupid way to make a point, and if Wilson chooses that route (which he wont) then THAT is disrespectful to us by thinking we will travel and pay to stand in the rain and watch a below strength team in a relegation six pointer, just because Austin has said he wants to play at a higher level

so you want to watch a player who does not want to play for the shirt?

I think you'll find we do more than we realise. Charlie's just been stupid enough to let his agent tell everyone

And given the shit we're in right now, I just want the points

As Andrew fitton quite rightly said "Charlie is a Swindon player until he isnt a Swindon player"

So the answer is yes.

I'd rather watch Austin when he doesnt want to play for us (and that is NOT what he said) than Pericard, who is physically incapable of playing for us

Don't panic he will get a hat trick at rovers and be favourite again!!! COME ON!!!! :beers:

ok you don't like pericard, we fucking get it

thats fair enough then, but my personal view is if you hand in a transfer request then you dont play for the team! No player is bigger than the team.

The whole situation has turned into a slight farce.  Tomorrow is a bit of a no win situation for Wilson.  Leave Austin out and we lose, people will ask why he wasn't played when he's still fundamentally a Swindon player.  Put him in and he has a bad game, people will point to the fact that he's not interested and doesn't deserve to play.  Difficult one.  Personally I would play him, purely because the options without are pretty dire.  He might feel he has a point to prove and let's be honest we're more likely to get something out of the game with him in the side.  The only other negative is how much him playing will affect the rest of the team ie are they are pissed off with what's gone on this week.  On the other hand, they can't get much worse anyhow!

I can assure you that if Pericard started putting in a tenth of the effort Charlie does to chase down defenders,and to get on the end of passes, and to try to create something, I would love him. Him being a crap footballer I can take. We have a few of them in the side. His total lack of effort is what galls me. the fact that some would rather see him in the lineup tomorrow instead of a half-committed Austin, is frankly preposterous

EEEEEEEEEEE OOOORRRRRRRRRRRR VINCENT PERICARD...

Charlie has disrespected the fans and the club. He could have had a quiet word, but no, he went to the press, over everyone's head, that is disrespectful. How many fans like him more because if this? I think you'll find he's lost many, many, many fans and why? Because he disrespected them...

The majority of fans loved Charlie, myself included, he is by far and away my favourite player for a very long time. His requesting a transfer makes me feel a bit cheated, like he never really gave a fuck. I can't be alone now in feeling a bit put out that love is not reciprocated and in fact we're nothing to him.

And with regard to Wilson disrespecting the fans by playing Pericard?! Grow up, and stop being pathetic.

you are entitled to your opinion, pal, even if that opinion disrespects ME (and calling me pathetic for having a different opinion to you ranks as disrespectful)
I am entitled to mine, though I wont disrespect you by calling you names (you cunt  ;D)

Loads of people on here moan about those who boo Pericard, but from the feeling I get, tomorrow many of those who moan about people booing Pericard will be doing the same to Austin.
Where is the sense in that?

getting 3 points tomorrow is all that matters. I couldnt give a monkeys if Sean Close signed for us tonight, if he scored the winner from the bench in the 89th minute tomorrow
But I refuse to bow to those who suggest we shouldnt pick our best player just because he has been rather silly (and nothing worse) in what he has allowed to get into the press

I'd play Austin, but I agree that the way he has gone about things leaves a bit of a sour taste in the mouth.

We all knew he'd go, maybe even this window, but now he's publically trying to force the clubs hand.

I agree Batch, we should play Austin - until we can shift him. But just to add, the sour taste he's left in my mouth makes me hope we're rid of him soon. I don't think his actions have helped morale within the team, the boardroom or the fanbase and that only rankles me further.

Yes I agree that 3 points is the most important thing in all this, but your making out that playing a half arsed Austin will guarentee this.
I cant really understand why you say he has not shown us disrespect? Handing in a transfer request is one of the most disrespectful things you can do to your club. He is showing contempt towards to club.
I for one hope we can get rid as soon as possible and move on.

Not playing Austin would not make any sense. What the club are saying is you signed a contract with STFC we will sell that contract when we get a decent offer, & not before. That offer is depndent upon you playing well.
Not playing him is like the club are throwing there toys out of the pram & saying we're upset that you asked us to sell your contract, therefore you aren't going to play for us or anyone else. - That's immature
The other things it would do is give Wovers a better chance on gaining 6 points on us, when we are saying the club is bigger than the player. If at the end of the season we get relegated because we "taught CA a lesson" vs Wovers I would be gutted.

I will support him while he wears the shirt.

If he gets too much of a barracking he will play poorly & this could continue. We may end up keeping him, cos he has lost his goal scoring touch which would be a bit pointless as we already have enough strikers who can't score

How can you say for sure he'll be half arsed. He went public and still no bid has come in. Surely now is the time he'll be putting in his best efforts to showcase what he can do.

 Charlie Austin has over the time he has been with us put in, by a very long way, the most effort than any of our up front players, combined with his natural talent he has been an unstoppable force in division one. Other posters have mentioned Fabregas and Torres as want a way players that were not dropped, it is interesting to see that they are still very much key players for their respective teams and have NOT left. If there is any player that personifies desire in our team for this season it is Charlie Austin, should he be dropped for Bristol NO WAY.. It is interesting how people quickly forget his massive contribution this season and last, and seem to think that the Juventus Hitman will come good. Remember an Austin offday such as Yeovil still was 100%.

Thank you - a voice of reason in the forest......

Danny had said publicly that Charlie has been immature - which is a euphemism for the things he's probably calling him in his office right now.
Gasheads reading this (and I work in Bristol and know a couple of them who have cut and pasted a lot of this site to their mates) will be well aware of the mess STFC are in right now, on the pitch (although they only had to watch a tape of the yeovil game to know that) and off it. They will be wetting themselves at the prospect of whupping our asses in that shithole of a ground for a second season running, and making the absolute most of it.

If there are boos from the away end the minute Charlie first touches the ball, we know what will happen - Charlie will react (as he is indeed it would seem a pretty immature chap - his actions off the field, if rumours about him are even 10% true - show that) and the Gas will be lapping it up and ramming it down his, and our, throats. From then on we are on a loser. If he is dropped, that will not be good - paying him to stay at home when he is our best chance of coming back down the M4 with anything, is a silly move and I dont beleive Wilson will make it - just because I dont agree with Wilson's beleif that Pericard has anything to offer the team, doesnt mean I cant agree with him and Fitton that Charlie is still a Swndon player, and whatever his motivations for playing to the best of his ability, thats fine by me - when he isnt a Swindon player, I will boo him - right now he is, so I wont boo him. Just like I actually do not boo Pericard during a game, despite having been outspoken in criticism of him on here.

you play your strongest team every time. Our stongest team has Charlie on the pitch - nuff said

Maybe im of the old school way of thinking that a player should want to play for the club. Im sure he will probably play tomorrow and bang in a hatrick and all will be well. But end of the day he has disrespected the club and let alot of people down.

I think we'd all LIKE to think that way. A number of us of a certain age can remember times when that was the case.

But how many STFC first teamers now were born within 100 miles of Swindon, or supported the club as a boy? Indeed, how many premier league current players were born in the same COUNTRY as the club they play for.

Its sadly a "rose tinted specs" kinda thing to expect players to share our loyalty to the club. they are employees, commodities in many respects (if they play for Chelsea or Man City especially) and they cant be expected to hold such chivalrous thoughts in their heads - no more than you or I would hesitate to ditch an employer if a rival company offered to double our wages for doing the same job.

We cant beef about someone who is patently too good to be considering dropping to the bottom tier of the professional game, to not want to take his chances and move on to somewhere that matches his ability. Especially when they are in a career that is painfully short and they have to make a lifetimes worth of income in a short space of time.

Adver in "New low for half-assed articles that contribute the grand total of bugger all to anyone's understanding of anything" shock:

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/8805216.What_you_have_to_say_about_Charlie____/

Lets move on and get behind the team before we play the gas Charlie is leaving sometime in the near future in the meantime play him tomorrow and he will slot a couple of goals for us however it might be squeaky bum time everytime he goes back to defend

I agree 100 %.

Everyone has accepted that Charlie will be leaving soon and rightly so. He's been fantastic for us and a real joy to watch. He was one of my favourite Town players in years until he went and pissed the majority of the Swindon fanbase off.

Handing in a transfer request just shows a total lack of respect for us fans who adore him and chant his name every week. You should have gave Simon Cox a ring Charlie. He could have gave you a few tips on progressing your career in the right manner.

I dont think he wanted out just to piss the fans off though. Yes he could of done it in a more dignified way but sometimes things get taken out of perspective just a little bit too much.

Edit: BTW i dont mean by you.

Like Wilson said, immaturity and lack of knowledge about the professional game. He's never had to deal with this pressure before.

Saying Charlie has "disrepected" us make this thread more like an episode of Jermey Kyle.  

He did something stupid, it's calming down.  He's our best player, we need him to do what he's good at.

He has an agent who tells him what to do....this was done with the specific intention of expediting a move.

Austin could just have said no to the plan...

I think he has to play. Let's be honest he's our top scorer and without him our chances of winning are slim. This is a huge game make no mistake. We need a point at the very least here. I just have a feeling he's going to come out fired up and ready to prove a point to the fans. I hope so anyway.

I'm going for a sending off

We won 3 of our 7 games without Austin....it would be a slap in the face to other players to pick the fella.