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Been reading through the match day threads for yesterdays game, Saturdays shambles against Bournemouth and also the Peterboro game and I cant believe how divided opinion is on Prutton.

I personally think his performance against Peterboro was shocking, only a slight improvement against Bmuff and even in an excellent team performance yesterday there were many times when he didn't look interested, picked the wrong pass or lost the ball in decent positions.

I thought after a dodgy start with us he was improving but the last 3 games have got me really worried that we've got an expensive dud on our hands. Yet in the matchday threads, some people are praising him and even saying he was MoM !

Can anyone tell me what I'm missing ?

Inconsistent.

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Absolute class last night - needs to play with that tempo every game

Sometimes he has a bad hair day

He's like a physical mixture of douglas and ferry, but without the technical ability of either

Really ? All I saw was him strut around the middle of the park for 90% of the time, making the occasional interception or a storming run upfield, only to lose it or turn and pass backwards.

His box to box runs last night were excellent, he was a good support for Charlie and there were only a couple of times when I can remember him misplacing a pass.  The 3 centre mids (Timlin, Prutton and Ferry) last night won us the game by bossing Charlton.

I rate him, but I want to see him further up the pitch rather than deep even though he can play both positions. He's got a goal or two in him.

Both. That's the problem

I think he's a space dynamo

I agree.

I'm one of those that thought he had a good game last night. Evidently we all see things differently.

Against Peterborough he was gash, no doubt in that at all. He'd obviously been slotted in as a direct replacement for Douglas and that's just not his game (IMO). The same can be said for the Bournemouth game really, it looked like Prutton had been told to hold defensively and let Ferry get forward.

Last night seemed to be different and he looked to be playing in the hole just behind Charlie, leaving Ferry and Timlin to do all the donkey work. Quite often he was the furthest man forward, made some intelligent runs and opened up space for Austin, Ritchie and O'Brien.
 

Played well last night however haven't seen enough this season. Seems too light on the ball and hasn't got the technical game of any of our other centre men. Do with leaving him on the bench as a 20 minute man

It's all down to where he plays. For me he's best playing in an attacking midfield role and he's more suited to the wing than a defensive midfield role. Not convinced he was playing in the hole behind Austin last night, but that is the position I'd like to see him being given a run in - the best chance of the 4-5-1 continuing to work for us.

As I originally said, I agree that last night was his best performance of the 3, but I still think Ferry & possibly Timlin would edge him if I were to give them each a score out of ten.

Lets see what Danny goes with - if he persists with 5 in midfield, maybe the tip of the diamond or in the hole whatever you want to call it, could prove to be Pruttons best position. But as it stands at the moment, if I were to drop one of those 3 to bring Douglas in, I think it would be DP, even though neither Ferry or Timlin are really suited to that more advanced role

Dont like him-not very good and definitely not worth what some people are saying he's on.DW loves him though and still reckons he will get goals for us.Cant see it personally

Last night he was definitely playing as an attacking midfielder. Maybe it wasn't clear on the TV, but in the ground it was pretty obvious. As for his performances, I thought he did well last night. People moaned when he ran forward and turned round, but that was nearly always because he only had a marked Charlie Austin ahead of him.

It goes without saying that he was terrible against Posh and Bournemouth. Needs to keep playing well to keep his spot, else he'll find Ferry and Dougie in ahead of him the way things are going.

He definitely has played his best higher up the pitch. Presuming we stick with the same side, at least against Oldham, be interesting to see if he can keep up the same work rate and level of performance for a few games on the spin.

I watched the game last night with a neutral who thought Prutton was having a blinder. Well, he refered to Prutton as the following:

My Mate - "That Spanish guy looks a great player!"
Me - "Which Spanish guy?"
Mate - "The one who looks a bit like Jesus."
Me - "You mean David Prutton?"
Mate - "Oh......Yeah.....A typical Spanish name!"

By all accounts, Prutts hada great game, as did the rest of the lads. Fair play to him

A friend of mine knows the summariser bloke for Bournemouth.  He thought Prutton was our motm against them.

If he was that good at passing he'd be playing at a higher level. He provides energy and gets involved all over the pitch. He also runs with the ball more than any other central midfielder we have. I think if he can perform to all these strengths he'd be very good.

Eh? ???

 Well in my opinion he was the poorest midfielder on show last night-to say he had a blinder is,frankly,ridiculous.

The simple answer to the question is that it depends on the day.  Sometimes very good, sometimes very bad.

He's either amazing or terrible. Never seems to have a solid 6.

His career to date suggests a player with a lot of potential (good clubs, big fees paid for him, U21 caps a plenty) but someone who fails to live up to that.  I thought he played the role perfectly last night, and was toss the two games before when playing deep.  He started as winger didn't he? certainly seems more interested and involved the further up the pitch he plays.  I think a few games playing in the role he did last night and we'd begin to get a good player.  As harsh as it would be, Timlin would need to drop to the bench with Douglas coming back in.  McGovern can bench warm if Ritchie can be as free as he was on the right yesterday. Unless we sign a decent centre forward, I'd be happy with that set-up because it forced us to play the ball on the floor a lot more, it also meant midfielders always had an easy pass available and the centre backs could distribute the ball without fear of cocking up so much.

couldn't have put it better myself.

His discipline has held his career back....including this season with us.

I think he's too eager to back off, which is why him playing higher up the pitch meant him looked ace. If we're playing two central midfielders i'd prefer to see Ferry and Dougie

Prutton played well last night, the system we played suited him.

Always the option of putting him on the right in a 4-4-2 as he's played there a fair bit before.

I like him. I don't think he could ever be classed as a waste of space, he's far too good for that. A waste of space is Hoolet. Prutton could never be considered remotely similar to that passenger.

A lot of fans keep comparing Prutton with Dougie, when in fact they are two different types of players. Like I said in my previous post, he is suited higher up the pitch. Also like a few of the posters have mentioned he would also suit the right side of midfield. In his career, certainly at Forest and at Southampton he was always distributed in an attacking midfield position either centrally or on the flanks so then he could drift inside.

Doesn't seem to be comfortable on the ball, was excited when we signed him, but has failied to live up to my expectations.

Needs a haircut.

I think he's another who's suffered from fitting square pegs etc to accomodate and he hasn't often played in his best position, which is picking up in the oppo half and pushing forward fast.

I meant that in the way i agree with what the majority thought about Prutton's performance. Sorry to confuse you OOOOOH SHAUN TAYLOR. Please accept my sincere apology.

Nalis all over again but at least the management realised that the frechman was past it and bombed him out!

Prutton cannot tackle (without getting booked), pass (unless you enjoy 30 yard hit and hopers punted up front), head (hopeless).

He can run around alot and thats it.

Fucking amazed how he starts every game without fail.

One of Wilsons fuck up signings this one.

Oh yeah, he cannot shoot either...

Fucking hell Flash, did he shoot your dog or something? You seem to find similar joy in Prutton as glos_robin does in Swindon.

:D

hahahah great post Barry :D

He gets my goat.....i cannot think of the last player that did that.

Ajokefree at MK probably.

I think you should change your signature then!

I can't tackle without crunching someone either, just ask Chubbs (how is the knee by the way?). I can just about hit a straight ball 20 yards, I can't head a ball without closing my eyes, hoping for the best and looking like a complete spazmodo and I can barely run around for 30 seconds let alone "a lot".

Just like Gareth Whalley then...

Flash is legally blind right?

*shudder* I remember being horrified on discovering Whalley had a three year deal, assumed it to be one given his previous injury probs....Kingy lost the plot big time...

Prutton is rubbish! Worst signing ever, but Wilson likes him so we will play him. All I have seen is a player jump up and down in the middle of the pitch watching the game go on around him, never move to make himself avaliable for a throw in, never tackle, only pass backwards and sideways and look disinterested for 98% of a match! Next Swindon match you are at, spend just 2 minutes watching just him, you will see he will just stand around doing nothing, he is absolutely useless. People just seem to remember his decent 2% which is a couple of attacking runs a match. I cannot wait until Dougie is back and he can replace Prutton!

Fuck off you absolute mongder

You've been going to the wrong games, sorry

I presume that's your attention span? Worst signing ever? Seriously? Even if you don't rate him, our worst EVER signing?

Heh! heh!




If only that were true 8)

Perhaps someone could tell me in which games he's been "amazing?"Seriously,its not a rhetorical question.

bit harsh, you can hardly compare him to the likes of pook and steve adams. his reputation would at least suggest he has a bit more in his locker, and possibly Danny struggles to get that out of him?

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Steve Adams - I'd forgotten about that useless fucker.

I'd struggle to name any games that any of our players have been amazing although I stand by what I said earlier in the week Prutton was very good against Charlton and part of a central midfield 3 that were key to us winning the game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Adams_(footballer)

Jesus, didn't realise he was still only 30! I thought he had to be 35 at least.

Love this line from wikipedia, presumably wrote by his agent. (Could be a decent replacement for Dougie when Brighton buy him and Austin.)

"A defensive midfielder, he is extremely adept at breaking up attacks thanks to his ball-winning tackles and ability to read opposition passes."

He was very good at Rochdale, Decent at home against Hudds, from memory of the games I've seen.

Oh.......that Steve Adams.....yeah, he was crap :hmmm:

Ok maybe I went slightly over the top! I've had a bad week!  :badmood: I would love to see what you are seeing, and maybe because i've been looking at him with a negative viewpoint I haven't seen the positive side of his game. I've been too quick to pick out a player and throw all my negative comments at him when in general every player has had more than one bad game this season. I'm sitting watching every game with my rose tinted glasses of the Leeds and Southampton matches from last season and just want to see the team produce those sort of performances again.

I must admit I'm seeing the same as you, I really cant see what he brings to the team (apart from maybe a bit of a physical presence compared to Ferry/Timlin but for a big fella I think he should impose himself more). And the number of times you see him 10 yards infield at throw ins not even looking for the ball is amazing. One of the first things you teach kids is if you want the ball, get in a position to be passed to, but if you are being marked, get out of that space (preferably taking your marker with you) and let someone else take up that position. He just doesn't do this.

He's nearly as good as Bobby Howe.

We will NEVER hear the chant of "David Prutton Sexy Football" echo around the CG. FACT!

Can somebody get the stats on his twat.....that will shut alot of Pruttonlovers up.

He has a twat? Ooooo

we get it Flash you dont like Prutton.

He could score 50 goals and save your life and you still wouldnt be objective in your opinion of him.

As for stats, they dont really tell us much

Prutton has had 11 shots on target 12 off target and 1 off the woodwork. That puts his amount of shots on target 6th behind Dossevi (13) Pericard (13) JPM (16) Ritchie (17) and Austin (35)

He has 0 assists and 2 goals

None of which tell the story of how well a midfielder has played anyway as Douglas stats with regards to shots and assists is extremely poor. 2 on target 9 off target 1 assist 0 goals.

...so, really this post was like your opinion on Prutton, waste of time really...

Dave you really are a cunt sometimes!!!

Im not interested in how many shots on goal he has........he his a midfielder FFS.

Douglas strike rate is piss poor but the man can pass and tackle and head on occasion.

He is a piss poor signing end of.

However, i dont boo him, i just shake my head in disbelief.

The stats i want to see is succesful passes and keeping the ball.....i bet his figs are shit.

I reckon his tackles won percentage must be one of our highest.

It's all academic though. I highly doubt any of us have access to that sort of information, and even if they do and it shows prutton up in a good light you'd still find up more accsations to level blindly at him. It's getting boring now. You don't like him, we get it.

It is why he's picked though: Wilson was asked earlier in the season why he played ahead of Ferry and his response was specifically that Prutton was more of a goal threat. When only one of our strikers is a goal threat, we need someone in midfield that can chip in a bit: Ritchie's doing that now, but earlier in the season this was why Prutton played every time he could.

I don't think Prutton is a terrible footballer, although I wouldn't say he was anywhere near as important to us as his rumoured wages suggest. My main concern with him is he always seems two minutes away from a red card.

Its clear that the midfield are not chipping in with many goals at all.

Dougies one weakness.

Rather a cunt than a fucking idiot though.

I posted those stats because if you'd put the effort in yourself to find any stats you'd realize that those are the only stats that the Swindon Town official site and the Football League official site hold. So, if you've got any better ideas as where to find the stats you want from I'd love to hear it.

..but..the fact is you're wrong and being so pig headed in your opinion nothing will change it so I'm done wasting my time with you.

Still, about time you came up with a stupid nickname for him like you did for Aljofree isnt it?

I agree with Dave. It's really annoying when a poster bangs on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

Snigger.

Fucking hell Dave, are you shagging him?

Fantastic!  You have found a use for him!!

How can i be wrong?   I just have a different opinion to you....doesnt make me right or wrong.

Thats what this forum is for.......Herthab doesnt agree with my views on Prutton but he doesnt have a hissy fit about. Not agrreing with you doesnt make me an idiot!!  You sound like my mother in law....im right and my views are right and anybody who disagrees is an idiot.....bollocks.

Nickname for Prutton: Prutton Goon .........but i dont think it will catch on...

My own nickname is: 'For fucks sake'......

I hope he comes good so you and Herthab can shovel humble pie down my throat!

Less so the repetitiveness, more so the complete and utterly being wrong thats tiresome.


No


Yeah, attacking midfield


because he hasnt been half as bad as you make out.


in my opinion the sky is red and the grass is florescent yellow.


No, but neither did Aljokefree (worst insulting nickname ever btw) and that never stopped you.




He has been good already though thats the thing. I'm not trying to claim he's been amazing and our best player every game...but...he hasnt been half as bad as you make out. He's had good games and he's bad games. He's been inconsistent just like ever town player this season and just like many players before him.

The way you go on you'd think he was at the Ben Hutchinson level of crapness, not even close.

On the Hutchinson note you are correct....but...he has been poor enough to be dropped on several outings and still gets picked.

I didnt cheer when he got the red at MK but i was relieved and we played better without him.

He has split the vote...all the lads i stand with are split some agree and some disagree.

You are also confusing opinion with fact.

Prutton is piss poor IMO.

Sky is blue...fact.  Opinions vary to what shade.

Grass is green...fact. Opinions vary etc etc.

Prutton is an overpaid 'mediocre at best' midfielder and a disaster of a signing.... fact.

I expect alot of the time 'he still gets picked' because Ferry has been injured, Douglas has been suspended and Timlin has been out on loan!

Overpaid? how would you know?
Mediocre at best? probably but arent they all at this level?
disaster of a signing? give over...

Ha ha - Will you 2 just get a room ?

Never imagined me saying this, but that's spot on.

In the context of our current squad then Prutton may not be the best, but off the top of my head here are the players who have been utilised in the centre of midfield in the past few seasons (and since departed):


Nalis - Past it, slow and despite being able to pick a pass was by and large useless.
Tudur-Jones - wasn't bad but not worth £250k. Could only pass sideways.
Pook - Had his moments, but league one was far beyond his level. A genuine source of frustration.
Adams - Forgot about him until he was mentioned the other day. Oops.
Kanyuka - Actually did better in midfield than people would have suspected. Not a class act by today's standards.
Comyn-Platt - Really thrived in the midfield position. Not.
Easton - Had a quality season with us and then his form went awry. Probably the pick of the midfielders here.
Weston - Showed glimpses of good attacking threat but his ego got in the way. Pretty much as soon as Wise left he wasn't very good.
Whalley - Shit, waste of space cunt. Possibly the worst central midfielder we've had for some time.
Peacock - Did a job in the midfield and his effort was notable. Still, not the quickest player or most skillful player.

Prutton has shown more than most of the chumps in that list. Hardly a disaster signing at all. If Prutton is a disaster signing then Timlin is too (which is not my view: Timlin, whilst I do not rate him much has had good games for us and has been a useful squad player).

I can understand the annoyance of Prutton playing ahead of Ferry earlier in the season, particularly when a midfield of Prutton and Douglas just didn't work, but it seems a few people are moaning of his selection when we don't have other options (Douglas being suspended).

Right on the first point (i hope).

His performances have been more disappointing on the back of last season and the hope of Wilson signing some players to kick us on.....in that respect he is not alone.

good player brings a bit of quality to the side.not a holding midfielder so does not play well when asked to do this but his runs from midfield is something we have been missing.

MOM on Saturday.....best of a bad bunch and i am talking the whole 22 and subs.

Their keeper might just edge him.

Going back to Prutton. I do think he has been a massive problem this season.

He doesnt play very well with Douglas, because he doesnt like to tread on Douglas' toes. He goes missing.

I think his big pals act with Douglas has caused massive squad rifts because he plays every week in front of Ferry. Sometimes when you get 2 who are very close it upsets the equality of the group.

The best thing would be for him to go. He's not playing very well anyway.

But Timlin is playing ahead of Ferry too Spencer, it's not that simple.

I dont see how Timlin being in front of Ferry invalidates my point?

Doesnt it make it more likely that there is a problem? Ferry is a player we spent a lot of money on. Proven more than good enough for this league by last season. Has Timlin proven himself in L1?

If we let Prutton go then Timlin would still be ahead of Ferry is what I was getting at.

I do suspect there is a problem between Douglas and Ferry

A problem between Wilson and Ferry.

Which is astonishing as one of our biggest strengths last year was the Douglas-Ferry partnership.

Whoever the supposed problems are between, they're all professionals FFS.

You're being very well paid to do a job, nobody sees eye to eye with everyone they work with so just fucking get on and do what's best for the club.

timlin is getting playing time to move him onto another team. timlin, pericard and AOB may all be on there way before the end of the month

How does Timlin getting playing time help move him onto another team?

Shop window. It worked for Morrison for the Sky game....

10 minutes here and there won't help move him on. I'm fairly sure Wilson won't be playing him for that reason.

He started at Charlton and Oldham.

I'm hoping Sturrock comes in for him.

swap deal for Barry Corr!!

well i know if i wanted teams to take an interest in players that hardly play in the first team id put him on for 10-20 for the scouts to see

yes even if its only a free it will free up wages to go elsewhere

If this is the case then theres a time and place, not 1-0 down at home to Yeovil needing a goal with Ferry sat on the bench next to him.

i see what your saying but this is danny wilson were talking about. if timlin leaves this month then thats the only reason he would be playing him ahead of ferry

I think you give Wilson too much credit.

He's a simple manager. He brought Timlin on for Ritchie instead of Ferry because he wanted a 'Left footer' in midfield.

"Eh'up let's keep balance in the side son...!"

Simple manager. Rubbish.

Sorry to bring this up. But we were ripped to shreds quite a few times at Ashton Gate 2001-03, when their wing players often swapped positions during the game.

then if everyone thinks ferry is better than timlin why would he keep playing him? it cant be becasue ferry and douglas never got on thats rubbish 90 minutes on a pitch you havnt got time to dislike someone last season they seemed to get on fine and when they have played together this season i havnt noticed any friction.

i remember there being a story about scott leitch and mark robinson not getting along which ended in a goalmouth scrap at home to sunderland if i remember as i was only young then

so im sure if ferry an douglas dont get along we would have seen some evidence by now

Prutton is more than capable at this level. He's been playing inconsistently this season like most of the players.

From what I've seen Prutton has been one of our more consistent players - consistently shite.

However much I try to convince myself that I'm missing something, I just cannot see what he brings to the team.

He doesn't seem to be heavily involved in anything we do. At least not from memory. I agree with a couple of peeps that perhaps he'd be better on the right.