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Title: Pericard
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 10:16:24
Following Saturday it's all blown up a little, with the abuse he received making the national press (in the sun) and forcing DW into publicly backing his player again in today's adver.

For those who are interested, my latest blog also looks at the issue. Feel free to comment, so long as it's nice.

http://www.football.co.uk/blogs/5009/1526806.shtml



Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: michael on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 10:24:15
What are The Sun saying about it?

It reflects very badly on us as supporters.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 10:27:01
The Sun got Charlie's views on it. Just included in their match report about how he was jeered off.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: michael on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 10:34:08
I would like to think that none of the Club Red members were involved in the booing. I certainly wasn't.

I suspect that it was season ticket holders, and pay-on-the-gate fans.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 10:49:46
I would like to think that none of the Club Red members were involved in the booing. I certainly wasn't.

I suspect that it was season ticket holders, and pay-on-the-gate fans.

On behalf of Bangkok Red, myself and all other ex-pat fans it wasn't us.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 10:56:47
I would like to think that none of the Club Red members were involved in the booing. I certainly wasn't.

I suspect that it was season ticket holders, and pay-on-the-gate fans.

:D


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 11:03:33
One thing people are missing is Pericard is the one who keeps saying how many goals he will score etc he came here and said i will get x amount of goals by the end of the season and then earlier on he is telling everyone how Charlie will have to wait to get back in the team due to his great performances.

Don't get me wrong the booing is stupid and won't help but if he came out like Heskey does and says look i know i don't score many but i bring other stuff to the team instead of always saying i will score x amount of goals and then not deliver then people would understand.

As for people saying well he is that type of paynter player we need the big difference is Paynter scored goals.

9/10 fans want to see him succeed but when you look half assed sometimes and are on a decent wage you get pissed off. When he is holding the balls up playing it out wide i want to see him bust a fucking gut to get in the box but he doesn't. There is something wrong when every ball in the box is being won by Austin and even Richie when we have someone like Pericard who should be causing defenders problems in the box and not just on the half way line.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 11:31:17
Maybe he's been told not to bust a gut to get in the middle to draw the defenders out and leave space for richie and austin?


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: luckyluke699 on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 11:36:28
Maybe he's been told not to bust a gut to get in the middle to draw the defenders out and leave space for richie and austin?

Stop trying to think with your head, and use the pea sized brain in your arse like the rest of us!  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 11:43:06
Mr Rogers shop, it's not the people who want him to do well that are being discussed though.  It's the people who spend the entire game spitting blood at him, proper hatred.  The only really important fact is that we do not have a problem scoring goals when Pericard is playing in the team.  Who cares who is getting them, we can debate opinions, but with Pericard in the team it seems to work going forward.

On Saturday, the problem in the team was still at the back, why no booing of Morrison or ironic applause when he cut the through ball out for a change or marked his man? (I clearly do not think anyone should)


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 12:01:46
I'm saying the booing is wrong full stop just sayin he doesn't help himself at times. Dave instead of the stupid snide shit you say about maybe he is basically told not to just think before being clever. if you think for 1 minute wilson would rather our shortest player on the end of a cross instead of vince you are mad.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 12:07:42
I'm saying the booing is wrong full stop just sayin he doesn't help himself at times. Dave instead of the stupid snide shit you say about maybe he is basically told not to just think before being clever. if you think for 1 minute wilson would rather our shortest player on the end of a cross instead of vince you are mad.

I wasn't trying to be clever or snide.

- Wilson realises austin is more of a goal threat than vince
- (For now at least) opposition see vince, think "ooooh, a big target man, better mark him tightly from crosses"
- Vince being out of danger naturally pulls these center backs away, or at least ensures their thoughts are pre-occuppied with his lurking presence
- Either results in CB's not fully concentrated on austin, allowing him to take advantage and score
OR
- CB's not in the 'dangerzone' to deal with austin when the ball gets in.

It's simple this football lark.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 12:10:35
This is getting silly now.

A small but not insignificant amount of fans act like mongs.
Then people over compensate for them by decrying outrage and labling Vince as the new mesiah*.
Then the press get hold and blow it even more out of proportion.
* I made that up

Can we go back to normaility please. This is getting stupid. The less impressed should go back to cussing him under thier breath.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 12:16:02
What about raising eyebrows and looking skywards? See, that being silent won't knock his confidence and the eyebrow raisers will be able to take their eyes off the alleged inept performance.

Simple, this ranting lark.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 12:25:00
As for people saying well he is that type of paynter player we need the big difference is Paynter scored goals.

10 a season on average for his first two seasons in 72 games - are you saying Peri doesn't help himself cause he won't manage ten goals this season? 

Not if he's booed out of the club, I grant you...


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 12:34:28
10 a season on average for his first two seasons in 72 games - are you saying Peri doesn't help himself cause he won't manage ten goals this season? 

Not if he's booed out of the club, I grant you...
No i am saying he simply does not score enough goals. That is a fact,i won't boo him simple as that and others shouldn't.

As batch says it is boring now


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 12:56:52
On behalf of Bangkok Red, myself and all other ex-pat fans it wasn't us.

As part of the ex-pat fans, I was there on Saturday but didn't boo. I don't think I have ever booed a player in my life.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 12:58:05
He'll score 3 tonight


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: luckyluke699 on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 12:59:06
10 a season on average for his first two seasons in 72 games - are you saying Peri doesn't help himself cause he won't manage ten goals this season?  

Not if he's booed out of the club, I grant you...

He may not have scored a lot last season (well any in fact!), but he has six so far this season in all comps, and statistically speaking is more than keeping up with Billy's first 2 seasons at the moment?

BILLY P
2008/09 - TOTAL   44 (0)  games,  12 goals (ratio = 0.27)
2007/08 - TOTAL   26 (14) games, 10 goals (ratio = 0.38)

VinceP
2010/11 - TOTAL   15  (6)  games, 6 goals (ratio = 0.40)    


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 13:00:17
He may not have scored a lot last season (well any in fact!), but he has six so far this season in all comps, and statistically speaking is more than keeping up with Billy's first 2 seasons at the moment?

BILLY P
2008/09 - TOTAL   44 (0)  games,  12 goals (ratio = 0.27)
2007/08 - TOTAL   26 (14) games, 10 goals (ratio = 0.38)

VinceP
2010/11 - TOTAL   15  (6)  games, 6 goals (ratio = 0.40)   

To be fair Paynter got a lot of shit those two seasons too.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 13:10:57
A small but not insignificant amount of fans act like mongs.
Then people over compensate for them by decrying outrage and labling Vince as the new mesiah*.

He's not the messiah - hes a very naughty boy


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 13:19:50
He's not the messiah - hes a very naughty boy

Only the true Messiah denies His divinity.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: luckyluke699 on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 13:21:32
To be fair Paynter got a lot of shit those two seasons too.

Too true actually, I stand corrected. Barn door Billy if I recall!


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: RJack on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 13:46:14
Following Saturday it's all blown up a little, with the abuse he received making the national press (in the sun) and forcing DW into publicly backing his player again in today's adver.

For those who are interested, my latest blog also looks at the issue. Feel free to comment, so long as it's nice.

http://www.football.co.uk/blogs/5009/1526806.shtml



I see some muppets posted a load of garbage on that link already in the Comments part. His style of writing and punctuation look suspiciously like the knob that started the Wilson Out Facebook page

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Ryan, Swidnon (07 Dec 2010, 11:24)
This artical is fair enough but Pericard is totaly useless. We expect good players at swindon but so does every club. Pericard played for top clubs (juventus, stoke, portsmouth) and we expected him to be top quality, but he dosn't run, he's slow, rubbish ball control and shocking at everything. for example when he was take off and Dossevi was put on he tried his hardest, ran loads, good control, everyhing Pericard Fails to do. He has had around 1 year now to settle and shine but he is still the worst Striker we have ever had that i remember.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 14:08:50
Good article, very good. Pretty much sums up the situation for me.

Clearly the guy that commented though never saw Jamie Slabber :-).


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 17:10:05
As part of the ex-pat fans, I was there on Saturday but didn't boo. I don't think I have ever booed a player in my life.

John McGinley?


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 17:16:59
John McGinley?

thats a given so doesn't count


even his Mum thinks he is a cunt


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 17:19:55
thats a given so doesn't count


even his Mum thinks he is a cunt

 :D


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 17:26:08
John McGinley?

Never seen him play.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 17:31:38
I see some muppets posted a load of garbage on that link already in the Comments part. His style of writing and punctuation look suspiciously like the knob that started the Wilson Out Facebook page



As if anyone's going to take his post seriously. He's that fucking thick he can't even spell the town where he's from. Muppet.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 17:46:48
Big Vince hat-trick tonight I reckon.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 18:08:08
Keeping in theme with the Ooh Aah, Vincent Pericard (Cantona) chant, we should do the 12 days of Christmas chant for Pericard.

On the first day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
A Vincent Pericard.

On the second day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

On the third day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Three Pericards,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

On the fourth day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Four Pericards,
Three Pericards,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

On the fifth day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Fiiiiiiive Peeeerriicccarrdssss,
Four Pericards,
Three Pericards,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

On the sixth day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Six Pericards,
Fiiiiiiive Peeeerriicccarrdssss,
Four Pericards,
Three Pericards,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

On the seventh day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Seven Pericards,
Six Pericards,
Fiiiiiiive Peeeerriicccarrdssss,
Four Pericards,
Three Pericards,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

On the eighth day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Eight Pericards,
Seven Pericards,
Six Pericards,
Fiiiiiiive Peeeerriicccarrdssss,
Four Pericards,
Three Pericards,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

On the ninth day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Nine Pericards,
Eight Pericards,
Seven Pericards,
Six Pericards,
Fiiiiiiive Peeeerriicccarrdssss,
Four Pericards,
Three Pericards,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

On the tenth day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Ten Pericards,
Nine Pericards,
Eight Pericards,
Seven Pericards,
Six Pericards,
Fiiiiiiive Peeeerriicccarrdssss,
Four Pericards,
Three Pericards,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

On the eleventh day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Eleven Pericards,
Ten Pericards,
Nine Pericards,
Eight Pericards,
Seven Pericards,
Six Pericards,
Fiiiiiiive Peeeerriicccarrdssss,
Four Pericards,
Three Pericards,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

On the twelth day of Christmas my true-love gave to me,
Twelve Pericards,
Eleven Pericards,
Ten Pericards,
Nine Pericards,
Eight Pericards,
Seven Pericards,
Six Pericards,
Fiiiiiiive Peeeerriicccarrdssss,
Four Pericards,
Three Pericards,
Two Pericards,
And a Vincent Pericard.

 :D


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 18:10:27
Never seen him play.

Have a little boo now.  He was a cunt.


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Crispy on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 18:10:45
United sing the same about Cantona ;)


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 18:11:37
Yeah, I was aware of that ;)


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: luckyluke699 on Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 18:14:45
I love that song, it should definitely get sung, though should sing "Danny gave to us" instead.

Surrounding unaware supporters will be looking very confused at first, and then nothing but annoyed by the time the 7th day of Christmas is reached!

...apart from Vince, Vince will probably remain confused the whole way through it :hmmm:


Title: Re: Pericard
Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 13:47:21
I love that song, it should definitely get sung, though should sing "Danny gave to us" instead.

Surrounding unaware supporters will be looking very confused at first, and then nothing but annoyed by the time the 7th day of Christmas is reached!

...apart from Vince, Vince will probably remain confused the whole way through it :hmmm:

No, he'd start by joining in strongly. He'd mis-pronounce a verse every now and then, and run out of breath and enthusiasm by about verse 7, by which time the choir would have lost patience with him.