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Too little too late? Think this relates to sports stars etc as well. Already seen one of those "oh this will help English football" bollocks conversations crop up!

It's all bullshit. The numbers involved are a fraction of the immigrants from the rest of the EU and a fraction of the illegal immigrants still in the country. Getting rid of all the illegals, a good few of whom will be working, is what is needed.

Same problem with legal asylum seekers, we end up with more than our fair share than the rest of the EU because of our benefits system. We need to get tough on that as well and start moving some to other countries. Asylum seekers shouldn't get to pick which country they go to, if they don't like it they can always fuck off back where they came from.

It's stupid as well. If a company needs someone with specific skills and they can't find that person with the UK (or EU) then they should be able to freely recruit from other countries. Provided they pay a fair market salary and don't use it for cheap labour, then what the fuck does it matter how many they bring in? If the skills aren't here they've got to get them from somewhere or they'll start moving the jobs to other countries.

Sod it...

When Theresa May said something about capping illegal immigration, I thought she meant knee capping.

PMSL !!! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Wouldn't that be fun - I'd pay good money to see that. But then who'd clean my car at Sainsburies ?   :)

Jonny is spot on.

Capping SKILLED migrant workers (Non EU) is NOT the way forward........The government are only targeting this population as they haven't a clue about how many immigrants are illegally working in the country - they can't target or refine a population you know nothing about.  The people they are capping are not only highly skilled but are likely to be high earners and contributing considerably to the UK economy.

I went to an event at KPMG not long ago with the UKBA and its scary how much hasn't been thought through.  They don't seem to realise how vital foreign talent is for example to new businesses starting up in the UK.  They also need to realise that International Companies need to move employees globally to spread talent/share skills etc.  They also haven't considered the impact on relocation companies with a focus on UK inbound moves.

I could spend hours going on about this but haven't time sadly  :cry:

I agree with the first part completely. With unemployment where it is, any new lower skilled jobs should ideally be directed to that part of the current population first, but skilled jobs should be able to be hired freely!

However what is slightly misleading is your statement that the people being capped " are likely to be high earners and contributing considerably to the UK economy.". This cap does not apply to those earning £40,000 or more I believe?

My philosophy on immigration is simple.

If you want to come here, earn your way and contribute to the country then I welcome you.  If you want to come here and do fuck all then you should be kneecapped and sent on the first flight home.

It's a piece of pathetic grandstanding. The ultimate in gesture politics.

The cap at 21,700 is quoted as a reduction of one fifth.  Wow! that's what, a redustion of 5,400 or so immigrants a year.

It's gonna take a while for that to have an impact on "more than double the size of Birmingham" isn't it Theresa you stupid cow with your ridiculous Soltaran Jacket.

Apologies - I was referring to the fact that in general, those coming in on tier 1 or tier 2 visas are likely to be relatively high earners with a strong skill set.  With the points based system, the points for tier 1 depends on salary, age, education etc. and its not reliant on company sponsorship thus giving the individual freedom of who they work for.  Tier 2 is reliant on company sponsorship and typically, the earnings for this visa type aren't anywhere near as high but for an employer to pay and sponsor an employee to come here its not cheap therefore I can't imagine them moving anyone unless they a) had significant potential or b) were of a senior level and instrumental to the business thus earning a decent wage.