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Remember folks, two minute silence at 11 am. I think that should include a voluntary posting on TEF ban during the two minutes as well.

Lest we Forget.

I am the only person in our office with a poppy :)

Most people think it is on Sunday.......BUT THEY ARE WRONG!

Amen to that.  I did a poppy count on my way to work, looking at the stream of commuters coming the other way as I walked down the station concourse.  About one person in 15 was wearing one.  not great, but still a lot of people I suppose.

You should proper lay in to them all Gazza. I'm working from home today, but still wearing my poppy. Although normally by the time Rememberance Day comes round, I've got through about 3 poppies cos they keep falling off.

Ive not seen anyone selling poppies.

thats a great idea

Well, you do need to leave your house :)

Usually they have them in local shops,not this year though.I'm not walking into to town just to get a Poppy.

Maybe you could make one

I'm wearing one, i'm also the only person at work wearing one.

I shall be having a 2 minutes applause on my own at 11am followed by a haka.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdpCkQWTsFI

Rememberance   pauld ?

*Remembrance. Jesus, I'm having a mare today

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Remembrance-Day-Poppy-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day.html


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FUCK OFF CRISPY

Amen.

Everything posted is about muslim extremists

Fuck off (not you fred)

Its in topic, its about today and it happened today.

FUCK OFF CRISPY

Now now ladies!

What's the point of your post Crispy, do want them banned?

The point of my post is that its remembrance day today, and this is news about remembrance day.

Well not completely.....In recent years, the act of remembrance has been intorduced as a general observance on Armisitice Day (11 Nov).  This really didn't happen until quite recently.  Until then, the focus was on Remembrance Sunday (the nearest Sunday to 11 Nov), when (as still happens) the ceremony at the Cenotaph in London takes place, and many churches and war memorials across the country hold special services, and include the two minute silence at 11am.

Personally, whilst wishing absolutely to respect the Act of Remembrance (on either occasion), I think too many of these occasions are being introduced, and it is actually damaging the event.  I don't mind whether it is 11 November or the nearest Sunday, but it would be better for there to be one common date.

THIS

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Remembrance-Day-Poppy-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day.html

IS A LOT FUCKING DIFFERENT TO THIS

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11731492


CUNT

THIS

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11731492

DOES NOT MENTION THIS

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Remembrance-Day-Poppy-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day.html

:cunty:

Oh dear youre asking for it now

Im sure youre EDL buddies were nice and quiet werent they

Why should they mention it? Out of millions who paid their respect why give prominence to 20 or so self-publicity seeking fuckwits

Crispy seems to get stupider by the post.

Hopefully (for his sake) he'll grow up one day.

BECAUSE 99.99 % OF THE POULATION DOES NOT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT

Crispy, you've made your point and i think most of us are bored shitless now. Why the fuck don't you join the army and go and kill a few Muslims if you feel that strongly. Alternatively, actually go to an EDL march and crush a few skulls. I agree those people are cunts but I can't get too worked up about it. They actually disgrace their own as plenty of Muslims died in the two World Wars. The average Muslim is no different to you, although in the majority of cases they're less ginger and more tolerant.
I don't see much point in waving your willy about, let the correct agencies sort out the bad ones and let the decent ones live in peace.

I know the EDL were there, but im not posting it because of that.

Im posting it because of the planned protest from MAC against our dead soldiers.

You brought the EDL up, not me.

Okay.

Nail. Head. Hit.

at last !

Crispy when are you gonna realise that only a really small number of Muslims are actually extremists. Every group/religion/organisation has extremists, most Muslims are just normal people who pose no danger to you whatsoever. The truth is you're a racist trying to justify your beliefs/stereotypes, every post you make seems to be about Muslims or the EDL.
WELL DONE FOR RUINING ANOTHER THREAD YOU TWAT

Sadly I suspect he's too thick to realise the irony of his posting in this thread about at a group of extremists trying to hijack Remembrance Day to boost their own political profile.

Come to think of it, i wonder if members of the EDL go for a ruby down the bengal after a riot?

No it's not in Topic what so ever. Today is to remember OUR dead. the Muslim stuff can go in a different thread if it HAS to be discussed. This is about respect for people who died so you and I can live the lives we do and you hijack it with that shit. Our fathers, grandfathers, sons, etc who gave their lives so we can live freely. You sir have just pissed on their memory by linking to those ignorant images of hate and self importance. 

For whatever reason you really hit a nerve here and I am incredibly fucked off seeing that shit in a remembrance day thread to our troops.

Crispy, do you get yours kicks out of derailing perfectly reasonable threads?

Ok, so you wanted to bring that piece of news to everyones attention. I can think of better ways to do it than post it in a thread of remembrance.

You come across as quite a shy & quiet individual in person, so I'm struggling to understand if you're doing this for effect or whether you're just an ignoramus.

Getting it back on track:

[url width=306 height=493]http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t289/ghanimah/remember1.jpg[/url]

That flower isn't a poppy, it's an Anemone.

[url width=900 height=675]http://www.userfriendly.org/illiad/november11.png[/url]

some of you have been a bit harsh on crispy here.

crispy  :bye:

i find it amusing that millions (around the world) paid their respects and in the uk 20 or so extremist dont shh for 2mins. So what they didnt ruin it for me. I ignore hatrid like that. The were demonstrating for the current war with signs like - get out of our country (iraq) and demonstrating in london, prob on benefits.

Have a bit of Paul Nash

[url width=482 height=278]http://www.art-ww1.com/tableau/052nash3.jpg[/url]

We know it happens crispy, because we know the UK isn't utopia.

Sometimes threads are started as a mark of respect and not an opportunity to highlight the wrongs of a nation.

The 2 minute reflection was immaculately observed at my work today by everyone, with or without a poppy.

See Cameron and co got some funny looks in China recently while waring there poppy's.
Seeing how Opium is the biggest vice in China....probably thought we were rubbing it in abit since the debacle of the Opium wars.

Incidently do you know that more Brit service people have died in the recent Afghan conflict...than died at the Battle of Trafalgar...somehow though i dont think there will be the same pomp and ceromony after this episode of our proud history.

Crikey leefer, The Battle of Trafalgar was fought on October 21st 1805 and not over years like Afghanistan!

I would also argue that you cannot compare modern conflict with those of centuries gone by.

 
Point taken :-[

If anyone has the chance to get over to visit Ypres and in particular the Menin Gate then I would highly recommend it.  Listening to The Last Post there is a very moving experience.

I have got quite a bit of time for the Belgians.

I spent a few days in Ypres on a school trip back in 2000. We went to the Menin Gate and it's something I'll remember for the rest of my life.

Now here's an article we can all enjoy reading today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Pink-Jumper-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day.html
 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Pink-Jumper-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day.html)

 ;)

The TEF pressure group should go to Daily Mail HQ and cause mayhem.

 :headhurts: Ooh, that link wasn't supposed to work. Try this.

http://www.dailyfascist.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Pink-Jumper-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day

Then read back through the thread.

Totally agree Arriba, you lot are like a pack of rabid dogs sometimes. Instead of keep telling him to fuck off or that he is a cunt why didnt one of the Moderators remove the offending post and PM the guy letting him know that it wasnt the time or the place for this discussion? 

Sums it up for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYtGsvoBVw8

It was just before dawn
One miserable morning in black 'forty four.
When the forward commander
Was told to sit tight
When he asked that his men be withdrawn.
And the Generals gave thanks
As the other ranks held back
The enemy tanks for a while.
And the Anzio bridgehead
Was held for the price
Of a few hundred ordinary lives.

And kind old King George
Sent Mother a note
When he heard that father was gone.
It was, I recall,
In the form of a scroll,
With gold leaf and all.
And I found it one day
In a drawer of old photographs, hidden away.
And my eyes still grow damp to remember
His Majesty signed
With his own rubber stamp.

It was dark all around.
There was frost in the ground
When the tigers broke free.
And no one survived
From the Royal Fusiliers Company C.
They were all left behind,
Most of them dead,
The rest of them dying.
And that's how the High Command
Took my daddy from me.

Stop off at Didcot on the way, they have their main printworks there

Bollocks. Completely self-inflicted.

What a well constructed reply, can no one have an opinion other than you then Paul?

Oh get a grip. The opinion I was expressing was that any heat he took was entirely self-inflicted. There, I've written it out a bit longer, is that better?

It was the bollocks bit that i found dismissive, He is young and very misguided about the ways of the world so what i was trying to say was that it would have been better if the mods had removed the post before it fanned the fires and he should have repsected that the topic was about remembering the fallen and not a few fuckwit extremists. 

Fair point. I apologise and withdraw my bollocks. As it were

Thanks Paul, i guess that you might need your bollocks so please accept them back as a token.   

to be fair to crispy,although the link was maybe not needed,it was linked to the topic.

There's one war poem that stands out for me...and it's the one we all probably learned at school.  It choked me then, and still does so today.  Written by a man who was sick of the trenches, sick of the war and sick of wartime propaganda.  He was shot in the head the following year, one week before the end of the war.  His mother, apparently, received the news of his death on Armistice Day.


DULCE ET DECORUM EST by WILFRED OWEN

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys!---An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime...
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,---
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

OK i'm confused, who currently has pauld's bollocks?

Makes you want to construct a poppy out of pork

My missus does, same as every other bloke on here. She lets me take them out on special occasions, just to look at mind, not to play with

Your missus has other blokes' bollocks as well?

In a glass case behind a curtain in the lounge. It's quite an impressive display, in a way, if a little unnerving.

Sort of Linked. Saw this on the news last night. Scum of the lowest order.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-11734814