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Title: Ian Holloway
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 08:43:29
Definately my favourite manager at the moment. Says what he's thinking, honest and open.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/blackpool/9178229.stm

We missed out there...definately just on match interviews!!


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 08:47:33
agree on both counts.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 11:50:30
We missed out there...definately just on match interviews!!

Agreed. Losing would be a lot more enjoyable as we'd have his post match rants to look forward to.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:58:29
Self centered really, end of the day he deliberatly showed up at Town games even though we had a manager, would be different if we had no manager but very disrespectful towards the club.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:01:23
love his outbursts....his rooney one was classic.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: glos_robin on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:11:30
Self centered really, end of the day he deliberatly showed up at Town games even though we had a manager, would be different if we had no manager but very disrespectful towards the club.
Christ alive does brain washing come with the Danny Wilson sponsership package? At least it showed he wanted the job, heaven forbid someone wanting to see what they 'might' end up managing.

What he has done with Blackpool is nothing short of remarkable and along the way he is causing a bit of a stir in the Premiership which i commend him for. 


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: Langers on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:19:47
I love Ian Holloway, he is brilliant.

He has been a breath of fresh air for the prem.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:25:17
Christ alive does brain washing come with the Danny Wilson sponsership package? At least it showed he wanted the job, heaven forbid someone wanting to see what they 'might' end up managing.

What he has done with Blackpool is nothing short of remarkable and along the way he is causing a bit of a stir in the Premiership which i commend him for. 

True about seeing who he "might" be managing but Malpas was still in charge, as shit as Malpas was there was a manager in place it's a bit like you working for a company and someone coming sitting beside you to see what you are doing on the offchance they get your job and your sacked.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: tans on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:32:40
I heard he went up to malpas and did a little jig before saying youre shit you jock cunt


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:38:12
Did he come out and say he wanted the job? I can't remember.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: tans on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:39:57
I dont think he did iirc

Even had a pint in the cgh didnt he?


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:40:49
So he went to watch a football match. Hmmmm....


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: pauld on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:44:16
So he went to watch a football match. Hmmmm....
IIRC it wasn't that he went to a couple of matches, so much as rather than approaching the club and asking if he could come along as a guest (which would be the normal protocol) he just turned up in the Town End which was clearly intended to stir things up a bit and hype himself up as a candidate.

But he is ace at Blackpool


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:49:12
But he's a member of the public. He came to a football match. You can clearly see he loves his football. If he was in the area, and there was nothing else to do....


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: pauld on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 13:51:03
But he's a member of the public. He came to a football match. You can clearly see he loves his football. If he was in the area, and there was nothing else to do....
Bollocks. He was an ex-manager at the time. He knows the protocol and he knew very well what the effect would be of his turning up unannounced like that


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: DV on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 14:00:08
he deliberatly showed up at Town games even though we had a manager

So do I...


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 14:49:14
Bollocks. He was an ex-manager at the time. He knows the protocol and he knew very well what the effect would be of his turning up unannounced like that

Bollocks. With all the shit that goes on in the world of football with players being tapped up and agreeing deals before their club even knows about it and new managers being lined up on the quiet prior to the incumbent manager being sacked, what Holloway did is nothing in comparison.

He went to some football matches and made it known he was interested in the job. Not much different from any of us sending a CV to a company and enquiring about any vacancies they have. Would have been worse in my book if he'd been talking to our board about the job prior to the current manager being sacked.

What is this protocol? Is it written down somewhere so I can get up to speed?


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 14:51:26
Bollocks. He was an ex-manager at the time. He knows the protocol and he knew very well what the effect would be of his turning up unannounced like that

True, If the managerial job was vacant it would be different but he showed up when we had a manager who was under pressure and to Fitton and others that was deemed unacceptable and forcing the boards hand to get rid. OK Malpas would be gone anyway but he put himself in the Town End knowing our fans would recognise him and chant his name to get his name out there to the board as opposed to going quietly say into the Arkells.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: glos_robin on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 15:07:45
I find it hard to even be slightly sympathetic for Malpas as he was a clown as a manager and his own ineptitude put him under pressure and his comments when he was sacked showed his true colours.

Tbh even if it was a publicity stunt by Holloway it's worked wonders for him hasn't it.....he's managing a team in the Premier League showing that hard graft and passion can make a difference where as we're a struggling league 1 club fighting a relegation battle devoid of any passion at all half the time.
 


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 15:09:23
I find it hard to even be slightly sympathetic for Malpas as he was a clown as a manager and his own ineptitude put him under pressure and his comments when he was sacked showed his true colours.

Tbh even if it was a publicity stunt by Holloway it's worked wonders for him hasn't it.....he's managing a team in the Premier League showing that hard graft and passion can make a difference where as we're a struggling league 1 club fighting a relegation battle devoid of any passion at all half the time.
 

Dont get me wrong, would love Holloway as manager one day if the circumstances are right. I would still take Wilson over Holloway though.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: glos_robin on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 15:27:05
Dont get me wrong, would love Holloway as manager one day if the circumstances are right. I would still take Wilson over Holloway though.
But why, Wilson talks a good game and is fairly respected I guess but in terms of achievements his career consists of 2 promotions is it? and numerous sackings. There's a reason that in recent years he hasn't been outside of league 1 and league 2, I just can't help but have my doubts that his footballing principles just won't work in the long run.
Holloway seems to have acknowledged his own shortcomings and openly admitted recently that over the last couple of years he has reinvented the way he gets his team to play and has reaped the rewards for it.
Teams know how to play Swindon now so does Wilson have a plan B, I'm not sure he does as the story of his entire career is that when things have gone wrong Wilson has been found wanting. As well as the players needing a long hard look at themselves Wilson needs to do the same and not just persist with some systems and players out of sheer stubborness.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: pauld on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 15:43:46
Bollocks. With all the shit that goes on in the world of football with players being tapped up and agreeing deals before their club even knows about it and new managers being lined up on the quiet prior to the incumbent manager being sacked, what Holloway did is nothing in comparison.
No, it's completely trivial in the grand scheme of things but it's still "not done" as Fitton commented at the time. IIRC the board were pretty pissed off with him going about things the wrong way and implied he was trying to force their hands in sacking Malpas, which is why it stuck in my mind. It's no biggie either way, I was just responding to someone asking why him turning up at the time in that way caused a problem. That was the problem. It's not a big problem though.


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What is this protocol? Is it written down somewhere so I can get up to speed?
No, it's in a secret handbook only known to people in football and a few select ex-players and pundits. I just randomly pretend to have seen it so I can quote it out of context every now and then to back up what would otherwise be a wholly specious argument


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 18:02:39
These lower league managers having there moment in the sun enjoy their whinging don't they! Pulis and Holloway are clearing punching above the weight in the complaints department.

Add Warnock to the mix next season and all bases will be covered.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 18:05:42
Sorry... has an argument broken out about Ian Holloway undermining Maurice fucking Malpas?


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 18:33:08
I agree with Holloway. I mean why can't he select the team he wants? After all he's the Blackpool manager right? It's his job. Why don't they just let the FA select everyones team? It's pathetic that they could even consider fining him for it.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: Langers on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 18:35:11
The team he picked did well enough anyway, they were unlucky not to get a point. I dont get what the problem is.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: leefer on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 19:37:13
The team he picked did well enough anyway, they were unlucky not to get a point. I dont get what the problem is.

Problem is that with there better team they may have got a point or all three........which means Villa get no points........which could be vital at the seasons end...if say Bolton miss Europe by one point to Villa..then this match becomes pivotal.
Personally i think he should pick what ever team he wants,,,,,but wonder how he would feel at the seasons end if Blackpool are in trouble a team drops ten players....meaning they go down.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: BelfastRobin on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 19:47:10
Problem is that with there better team they may have got a point or all three........which means Villa get no points........which could be vital at the seasons end...if say Bolton miss Europe by one point to Villa..then this match becomes pivotal.
Personally i think he should pick what ever team he wants,,,,,but wonder how he would feel at the seasons end if Blackpool are in trouble a team drops ten players....meaning they go down.


Can you really say that with Blackpool's strongest team they would have taken all three points? The tactical surprise probably worked in their favour, fringe players stepping up to the plate obviously freshened things up, hence why they did so well. We've seen it at our club with Timlin and LJF comin back in and performing well.

I think its' an absolute joke, the Premier League sets regulations of 25 players, Holloway ain't done nothing wrong, the players' performances justified his selection and its' up to him as manager to pick whatever team he likes at whatever game he likes.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: leefer on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 19:57:30

Can you really say that with Blackpool's strongest team they would have taken all three points? The tactical surprise probably worked in their favour, fringe players stepping up to the plate obviously freshened things up, hence why they did so well. We've seen it at our club with Timlin and LJF comin back in and performing well.

I think its' an absolute joke, the Premier League sets regulations of 25 players, Holloway ain't done nothing wrong, the players' performances justified his selection and its' up to him as manager to pick whatever team he likes at whatever game he likes.


I get your point...didn't say he had done anything wrong.
Maybe though if we need a team to do us a favour one day...and they dropped ten players and lost meaning we didn't go up or get in the playoffs...you may see it in a different light Belfast...personally i wouldnt be a happy bunny....you?


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: BelfastRobin on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 19:59:31
I get your point...didn't say he had done anything wrong.
Maybe though if we need a team to do us a favour one day...and they dropped ten players and lost meaning we didn't go up or get in the playoffs...you may see it in a different light Belfast...personally i wouldnt be a happy bunny....you?

Yeah mate sorry I could have worded that better, I wasn't having a go or saying you were wrong.

With regards to your second point, I would be outraged if a team did it against us.

But then again I'm a hypocrit.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: leefer on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 20:04:09
I really like Holloway....dont thin k he did anything wrong but he has to be prepared to face up if a team ever does it that effects his team..........thought they were really unlucky not to get a point.


Title: Re: Ian Holloway
Post by: DMR on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 20:09:49
I think Holloway's a bit of a chump, although I suppose it deflects the heat from his players when they've had a shit game.

Personally I hope the FA call his bluff for a laugh and fine his bollocks off and then we'll see if he actually walks away. Cos he bloody won't.