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Title: Question
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, November 8, 2010, 09:30:11
What was unique about Division 3 in season 1977 / 78 when Swindon finished 10th.  Its unlikely to happen again but not impossible.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bumpkin on Monday, November 8, 2010, 09:54:33
We won more games than we lost?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: herthab on Monday, November 8, 2010, 09:56:21
We won more games than we lost?

Please stop. I'm laughing so much it hurts! You truly are a comedy genius.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bumpkin on Monday, November 8, 2010, 11:00:03
Two points for a win?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Benzel on Monday, November 8, 2010, 11:11:00
One of our players was awarded an MBE.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, November 8, 2010, 11:11:53
Our goal difference was a prime number?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, November 8, 2010, 12:04:44
What was unique about Division 3 in season 1977 / 78 when Swindon finished 10th.  Its unlikely to happen again but not impossible.

From Swindon-Town-FC.co.uk :

Another average season - Swindon end up one place higher than the previous year, in 10th place. John Trollope decides to retire from playing in March - having made 832 appearances - but he returns just three games later, and plays another ten games before the season is out! At the end of the season, Trollope is awarded the MBE, and the board announce they are looking to replace Danny Williams as manager.
Football League Division Three:  10th of 24

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Seasons.asp?Decade=1970


Title: Re: Question
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, November 8, 2010, 12:21:48
Nope. Its more to do with the composition of the Division.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, November 8, 2010, 12:42:25
Everyone finished in alphabetical order?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: nevillew on Monday, November 8, 2010, 12:43:48
Everyone finished in alphabetical order?

Doubtful, if we finished 10th.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, November 8, 2010, 12:47:47
Did all the teams start in alphabetical order?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, November 8, 2010, 13:05:39
Everyone finished in alphabetical order?
Nope


Title: Re: Question
Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, November 8, 2010, 13:18:55
Won, drew and lost an equal amount of games at home (or away) ?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, November 8, 2010, 13:20:58
Nope - its to do with the composition of the teams in the Division. Nothing to actually do with Town.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: DV on Monday, November 8, 2010, 13:27:06
STFCs next to each other?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, November 8, 2010, 13:32:18
Ooh, good shout.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bewster on Monday, November 8, 2010, 13:33:59
and it happened also in 76/77


Title: Re: Question
Post by: DV on Monday, November 8, 2010, 13:35:30
Whole division being seperated by 30 points?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, November 8, 2010, 14:06:30
None of the above.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bumpkin on Monday, November 8, 2010, 14:32:18
It was the 98th season of competitive football in England







Thanks Wikipedia


Title: Re: Question
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, November 8, 2010, 14:33:10
It may well have been but its not the answer I'm looking for.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, November 8, 2010, 14:35:25
No clubs from London in the division.

Definitely true for 77/78, whilst there were London clubs the season before and after.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, November 8, 2010, 14:58:31
Nope


Title: Re: Question
Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, November 8, 2010, 15:13:29
This had better be a good piece of information...


Title: Re: Question
Post by: china red on Monday, November 8, 2010, 15:19:21
Been looking at that league table for the past ten minutes and cannot see anything which really stands out.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 8, 2010, 15:32:40
Is it something like every team in the league is from a different county?

Bury and Preston are both from Lancashire so clearly not!

I too have been looking at the table for ages and can't see anything!


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, November 8, 2010, 15:36:04
Is it that nothing remarkable happened?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, November 8, 2010, 15:36:16
This had better be a good piece of information...
Oh come on the answers are always a let down. Nobody has got it or even come close. I'll post the answer just gone 9 tonight.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: blah blah on Monday, November 8, 2010, 16:05:47
Is it anything to do with the number of different endings - United, City, Town, Rovers, Wednesday, North End & Argyle all in the same division ?

Or maybe the fact that there are 7 Uniteds in the same division ? Not sure how unique this is, really cant be arsed to check, but it seems a lot to me


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 8, 2010, 16:20:03
Was it that the 4 individual top scorers from that season played for the relegated clubs?

Clutching at straws now!


Title: Re: Question
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, November 8, 2010, 16:22:47
anyone got the table?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: nevillew on Monday, November 8, 2010, 16:23:50
google  division three 1977/78  triseros


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 8, 2010, 16:26:10
I think the league table may be a red herring.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, November 8, 2010, 16:39:41
League table here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977%E2%80%9378_in_English_football#Third_Division


Title: Re: Question
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:10:54
I'd guess it's something to do with Cathedral cities, given the presence of Lincoln, Exeter, Peterborough etc? But tbh I'm clutching at straws


Title: Re: Question
Post by: ghanimah on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:25:37
Perhaps it's that every county that has a football league team is represented


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:25:58
I'd guess it's something to do with Cathedral cities, given the presence of Lincoln, Exeter, Peterborough etc? But tbh I'm clutching at straws

Is it something to do with cheese...Cathedral city cheese...cheese straws


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bumpkin on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:29:15
Tell us.

1977/1978 English Division 3 (old) Table   
                P HW HD HL HGF HGA AW AD AL AGF AGA Points GD
Wrexham 46 14 8 1 48 19 9 7 7 30 26 61 +33
Cambridge U 46 19 3 1 49 11 4 9 10 23 40 58 +21
Preston 46 16 5 2 48 19 4 11 8 15 19 56 +25
Peterborough 46 15 7 1 32 11 5 9 9 15 22 56 +14
Chester 46 14 8 1 41 24 2 14 7 18 32 54 +3
Walsall 46 12 8 3 35 17 6 9 8 26 33 53 +11
Gillingham 46 11 10 2 36 21 4 10 9 31 39 50 +7
Colchester 46 10 11 2 36 16 5 7 11 19 28 48 +11
Chesterfield 46 14 6 3 40 16 3 8 12 18 33 48 +9
Swindon 46 12 7 4 40 22 4 9 10 27 38 48 +7
Shrewsbury 46 11 7 5 42 23 5 8 10 21 34 47 +6
Tranmere 46 13 7 3 39 19 3 8 12 18 33 47 +5
Carlisle 46 10 9 4 32 26 4 10 9 27 33 47 0
Sheff Wed 46 13 7 3 28 14 2 9 12 22 38 46 -2
Bury 46 7 13 3 34 22 6 6 11 28 34 45 +6
Lincoln 46 10 8 5 35 26 5 7 11 18 35 45 -8
Exeter 46 11 8 4 30 18 4 6 13 19 41 44 -10
Oxford 46 11 10 2 38 21 2 4 17 26 46 40 -3
Plymouth 46 7 8 8 33 28 4 9 10 28 40 39 -7
Rotherham 46 11 5 7 26 19 2 8 13 25 49 39 -17
Port Vale 46 7 11 5 28 23 1 9 13 18 44 36 -21
Bradford 46 11 6 6 40 29 1 4 18 16 57 34 -30
Hereford 46 9 9 5 28 22 0 5 18 6 38 32 -26
Portsmouth 46 4 11 8 31 38 3 6 14 10 37 31 -34


Title: Re: Question
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:29:45
Perhaps it's that every county that has a football league team is represented
No Sussex, Norfolk or Suffolk, just on a quick scan


Title: Re: Question
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:30:36
All the league teams starting with P were in that division...
Port Vale
Peterborough
Portsmouth
Plymouth
Preston


Title: Re: Question
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:31:14
Nope - none of the above. Not even close. Its nothing to do with geography or cathedrals. You can get the answer just from staring at the table, you don't need anything else.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: ghanimah on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:32:54
No Sussex, Norfolk or Suffolk, just on a quick scan

Ah bugger


Title: Re: Question
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:33:43
All the league teams starting with P were in that division...
Port Vale
Peterborough
Portsmouth
Plymouth
Preston

This does answer the original question though so has to be worth half a point


Title: Re: Question
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:51:05
Nobody won more than half their games


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:54:14
More games finished in draws (384) than a victory for one side (360)

Which is kinda similar to the last guess...


Title: Re: Question
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, November 8, 2010, 17:54:45
or following the above is it something about a record number of draws?

e: just noticed that nemo momentarily beat and with counting.




Title: Re: Question
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 8, 2010, 18:01:41
More games finished in draws (384) than a victory for one side (360)

Which is kinda similar to the last guess...
Please tell me you didn't count those all up


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 8, 2010, 18:04:42
or following the above is it something about a record number of draws?

e: just noticed that nemo momentarily beat and with counting.




All the teams got at least double figures in draws....


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 8, 2010, 18:04:52
Please tell me you didn't count those all up

The sum function in Excel did all the hard work for me. You can copy and paste those tables straight into it.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 8, 2010, 18:06:09
The sum function in Excel did all the hard work for me. You can copy and paste those tables straight into it.
You see, I don't know if that's better or worse... either way, you're not coming out of this well.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bumpkin on Monday, November 8, 2010, 18:14:02
Did we change kit mid season?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 8, 2010, 18:21:27
You see, I don't know if that's better or worse... either way, you're not coming out of this well.

Oh stop that, you remind me of my Urologist.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: ahounsell on Monday, November 8, 2010, 18:48:59
All the teams with an x in their name in the same division.

Wrexham
Exeter
Oxford

... that is if you dont count Crewe Alexandra


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 8, 2010, 18:59:07
All the teams with an x in their name in the same division.

Wrexham
Exeter
Oxford

... that is if you dont count Crewe Alexandra

Or Halifax...


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bedford Red on Monday, November 8, 2010, 19:21:12
Seeing as it's supposed to do with the league table and i can't see anything there...

How about

We produced an A4 size programme that year?

Or we lost to the eventual winners of the League in the FA Cup (nottm forest)?

We beat Plymouth home and away? (that doesn't happen very often)

Or, we drew matches 1-1, 2-2 and then 3-3 in consecutive games?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: bassett boy on Monday, November 8, 2010, 19:23:01
I have looked at this and i do not know are you going to tell us??????????????????


Title: Re: Question
Post by: axs on Monday, November 8, 2010, 19:31:57
Is it that it wasted the time of thirty idiots?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, November 8, 2010, 19:43:12
Seeing as it's supposed to do with the league table and i can't see anything there...

I don't think he said, or meant, that. Something to do with the composition of teams in the league, which you could spot by looking at the league table (from a list of the teams point of view).

I spent ages going through possibilities of things the teams had in common but they seem to cover all the bases. There are original league members, cup winners, recently promoted teams from non-league, a welsh team etc.

I reckon he's just being a cunt and is on the wind up.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Bumpkin on Monday, November 8, 2010, 19:58:12
Really hope there's anopther question tomorrow.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: woolster on Monday, November 8, 2010, 20:07:18
Really hope there's anopther question tomorrow.
really hope we get the fucking answer today :headhurts:


Title: Re: Question
Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Monday, November 8, 2010, 20:08:12
Has anyone said "if you add up the goal differences of all the teams it comes to exactly zero" yet?  ;)


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, November 8, 2010, 20:37:08
Was it the order we played our fixtures in?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, November 8, 2010, 20:38:22
Oh god the suspense.  :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Crispy on Monday, November 8, 2010, 20:39:38
Has anyone said "if you add up the goal differences of all the teams it comes to exactly zero" yet?  ;)

if you add up the goal differences of all the teams it comes to exactly zero


Yes.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, November 8, 2010, 20:42:25
2 Points for a win was much more civilised. They should go back to that.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, November 8, 2010, 20:50:49
No teams were promoted nor relegated.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, November 8, 2010, 21:11:10
The champions were also Welsh cup winners and played in Europe?



Title: Re: Question
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, November 8, 2010, 21:18:25
There is a correct answer but my last post implied that there wasn't. I literally posted and went out and a post came in while I was typing and I didn't see it. I wasn't being a cunt it was pure chance if you look at the times of the postings.
The winner is triseros - its the only season every team beginning with p were in the same division.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: Gethimout on Monday, November 8, 2010, 21:26:24
All the league teams starting with P were in that division...
Port Vale
Peterborough
Portsmouth
Plymouth
Preston

winner


Title: Re: Question
Post by: bassett boy on Monday, November 8, 2010, 21:40:59
Ok another Question not sure if this has been done before which current Premier player played for 2 different  championship winning teams in the same season


Title: Re: Question
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, November 8, 2010, 21:56:42
Ok another Question not sure if this has been done before which current Premier player played for 2 different  championship winning teams in the same season

Shay Given?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: bassett boy on Monday, November 8, 2010, 22:02:44
Shay Given?
Yeah right first time


Title: Re: Question
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, November 8, 2010, 22:03:58
There is a correct answer but my last post implied that there wasn't. I literally posted and went out and a post came in while I was typing and I didn't see it. I wasn't being a cunt it was pure chance if you look at the times of the postings.
The winner is triseros - its the only season every team beginning with p were in the same division.

I've reverse-ejaculated and my balls have turned inside out.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: tans on Monday, November 8, 2010, 22:04:42
95/96 season?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: bassett boy on Monday, November 8, 2010, 22:06:02
95/96 season?
Correct which games did he play for us(without looking) ::)


Title: Re: Question
Post by: bassett boy on Monday, November 8, 2010, 22:06:50
I've reverse-ejaculated and my balls have turned inside out.
Too much detail


Title: Re: Question
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, November 8, 2010, 22:36:13
I don't ever remember seeing Shay Given play for us, but i had a season ticket in the season he was here and didn't miss a single home game... yet i recall the likes of Shayne Bradley and Neale Fenn...


Title: Re: Question
Post by: donkey on Monday, November 8, 2010, 22:53:45
Did he play in the Rovers 4-1 or was Talia in goal then?

I guess Given must've played early, so Hull (A), York (H), Carlisle (A) and the Pox (H).  And maybe more...Bradford (H)?


Title: Re: Question
Post by: DV on Monday, November 8, 2010, 23:49:02
He defo played away at Brentford.


Title: Re: Question
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 00:20:42
You mean I've been studying the table for another 6 hours trying to work out the answer - I posted it twice as well just to be sure!!!!


Title: Re: Question
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 00:35:50
There is a correct answer but my last post implied that there wasn't. I literally posted and went out and a post came in while I was typing and I didn't see it. I wasn't being a cunt it was pure chance if you look at the times of the postings.
The winner is triseros - its the only season every team beginning with p were in the same division.

Technically, it isn't the only season that every team beginning with the letter p played in the same division.