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2-0 Swindon :)

think we'll come away with 3 points.1-0 to us...

We better bloody win.

My prediction says 3-1 to us

Not going today as it's my b'day party later, but think we'll win 2-0.

Have they still got that annoying trumpet?!!

I'm not massively confidant today. 1-2 loss.

2-1 Swindon. Charlie to break his record of only scoring one goal a game and scoring both. We also get over the hoodoo of never having won after going behind, by going 1-0 down, and banish all our demons in one swift kick to the bollocks of fate.

I'm gonna go 1-1 I think.

Ball Dossevi Austin 3-2

I'll take that. Like an injury time winner as well!

I nice, clinical 2-0 win. A goal mid way through each half from Austin and Ball. Rock solid at the back with Frampton marshalling things superbly. No injury time winners, no late come backs. 3 points. Job done. Happy days.

...and then he woke up!

It would be nice though. You never know, it could just happen.

Really unsure about this match after last weekend....hope for a 2-0 win.
Morrison to score first :D

we'll lose 1-0

Surely we've got to win today, surely.

I'm normally pretty comfortable with a point away from home but the way our form is at the moment, we can't rely on our home performances so really need to kick on today!!

I think we'll win, with a clean sheet to boot. Probably a painful 1-0 with 80 minutes of defending an early lead one of those sort of away games. Glad I'm not going haha :D

hats off to those that are though, horrible ground to get to :nod:

We will lose 2-1.

Just dont seem overly confident wenever we play at the moment.

Win 2 1. That is all.

I think 1-1. Not entirely sure why I am going to watch it as I vowed to have a break from away games after Dagenham

Hoping the right Swindon team will turn up today. The one that beat Huddersfield would be nice.

I'm expecting a draw, so I'll go for a frustrating 1-1 where we gift Yeovil a point through some comical error

He scored twice against Leyton Orient at home last season. About time he got a hat trick though.

We have also won after going behind before. We'd be pretty shit if we hadn't managed that in over 125 years.

Genuinely thought Charlie had never scored more than once. I stand corrected.

Can we actually sing today at yeovil please? If not ill be singing on my own  :nod: :beers: :beers:

1-0 Swindon from me today.

Team Id like to see

                 Lucas
Cuthbert Frampton Morrison Rose
     Caddis Prutts Ferry Ritchie
              Ball Austin

Team I think we'll see

                Lucas
Manks Cuthbert Frampton Rose
       JPM Prutts Caddis/Ferry
        Ball Austin Ritchie

Third away game of the season for me. We've lost the other two, so third time lucky?

Only other time i've been to Yeovil we've lost 1-0 soooooo.

Either way, i've predicted a nice, clean 2-0 win.

Got to be 4-4-2. No more variations please..

Yep...the real Swindon is going to step forward today.  I'm going to stick my neck out and go for a 3-0 win.  Let's do this for Freddy.

I'm thinking that we will win 4-0

i think we'll win 3-0, all from own goals

It's about time we knuckled down and got a decent win.

Clean? Prutts is playing

12-1 town

Crispy to get ejected, and section 60'd

5-3-2 eh...

I hate 532... hope it works though!

I'm not a massive fan of 5-3-2, but got a feeling it could work! Caddis & Rose both have good a delivery as well.

I think it could work. Rose and Caddis are much better going forward, which is what this formation utilises... Let's see how it goes!

Whats the team?

I hope it's more 3-5-2 than 5-3-2. Centre backs are gonna have to be on top of their game today though.

Or could it be a 4-4-2 with Scotty at RB?

Itll be wing backs, we are not going to be playing 5 in defence are we.

Yeovil Town: Stephen Henderson; Nathan Jones, Paul Huntington (capt.), Adam Virgo, Shaun MacDonald; Andrew Welsh, Owain Tudur-Jones, Jean-Paul Kalala, Luke Ayling; Gavin Williams, Dean Bowditch

Substitutes: Ben Roberts (GK), Billy Gibson, Luke Freeman, Craig Calver, Ed Upson, Sam Williams, Andrew Williams

Swindon Town: David Lucas; Scott Cuthbert (capt.), Andy Frampton, Sean Morrison, Michael Rose; Matt Ritchie, David Prutton, Simon Ferry, Paul Caddis, David Ball; Charlie Austin

Substitutes: Phil Smith (GK), Thomas Dossevi, Vincent Pericard, Jon-Paul McGovern, Alan O'Brien, Will Evans, Nathan Thompson

Referee: M Russell

Smith, Dossevi, Pericard, McGovern and O'Brien are all potentially useful attacking options on the bench, and if we needed to shuffle around at the back I suppose we'd see a shift to 4-4-2. No Amankwaah then - have they finally decided to sort his injury out?

Looking at that its Cuthbert right back, 4-4-2 as Rose and Ritchie are playing

Looks like 5-3-2 to me, with Rose and Caddis as the WBs. We'll find out soon enough.

Where would Ritchie play then? Not going to play center mid is he

I really hope not, but Wilson does like to be conservative... ;)

Agree that 4-4-2 seems the most likely, is that 4 people at right back so far this season?

Could just as easily be 4-5-1. I'm sure it will be quite a dynamic formation and could easily go between all the formations already mentioned.

If Cuthbert is at right back, Caddis won't get a huge amount of support but he will have a very solid defender behind him allowing him to have a proper go at their full-back, if we can isolate him.

No, I wasn't at Gillingham.

Neither was Caddis

Fair enough. I stupidly read "Rose and Ritchie" as "Rose and Caddis". You have a point. Looks like 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 then.

3-5-2

That looks 451 to me...

4-4-2

First trip to this ground. Have to say good turn out from us lot. The ground really makes appreciate the CG.

2-3 to the town - prutts , austin (2) and a prutts red

Off to the international house of pancakes for a final massive American breakfast so will
miss most of this (unless they have free wireless). Think it'll be 1-1.

Just got in from work-Swindon 2-nil win come on you RRRReeedddsss :nod:

Did that last saturday!  Very nice!

1-1 today Austin

Oh man IHOP was one of my favourite things when I went to America.

Do the commentators not even get told the formation?

They don't have a clue

What are the odds on Virgo scoring in the last 10 minutes?

4-0 to Swindon

4-3-3 (ie 4-5-1)

oh bore off with the 4-3-3 why not just go 4-4-2 :(

So Cuthbert is at RB?

I dont like the sound of that.

It's a 4-4-4

Now they're saying it IS 4-4-2!

Very good, wel explained :clap:

I think the last time Cuthbert played at RB was the opening game of lat season, and we know what happened there...

He was only 50% fit though to be fair.

Can hear the town fans in the background. They probably can't hear themselves though with the acoustics at that place.

Cuthbert played at RB at leyton orient last season when manks was injured, kept a clean sheet then so couldn't have been too bad ;)

Blair witch scores for Southend

I'm glad we have reverted to 442 (if it is actually that). Would much rather have Cuthbert at centre half.

Caddis goes close

Text version makes it sound okay - a few crosses going in and a corner won.

Frampton sounds like he could be the type to get a few reds.....oh dear.

Sounded more like he got caught as the not-quite-last-man to me. Doesn't necessarily make him a disciplinary liability

Probably just finding his legs again, hasn't played much footie recently!

Afternoon all,

How's it looking/sounding.

Charlie AUstin!

Austin scores!

Yes. Austin!

Austinnnnnnnnnnn

GOAL!!! Austin! Sounds like the defence cocked up there.

Get in! 

Get in Charlie!!!

not bad.

Get in Charlie

yessssssssssssssssssssssss  :nod:

Whoop!

Hurrah!

Good boy Charlie!!

This Charlie Austin fella eh. What would we do without him!

Charrrrrrrlllllllliiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeee..........

Only 1-0 up.

Wilson out.

Come on charlie, i want you top scorer of the league so i can win £2700

Austin hits the post!

Austin off the post

Damn!

Damn in bloody deed

What's happening?

An even game. Yeovil probably attacking a bit more but they're not sounding very good at the back, so when we do go forward we seem dangerous.

who's with uncle Vic today...he sounds like a journo! :D

Sorry, I was welcomed onto the page with "Damn", I feared the worst.

Frampton sent off

Don't be a twat. Thanks.

Ban tans now

Cheeky.

Haha!

Racist prick !

Rob Hartley, fan who commentates when no-one else can be arsed to go.

?

Sorry all

Looking good so far  :hmmm:

Peterboro/Brighton sounds a bit juicy.... Brighton 2 up, Boyd sent off, and three other Peterboro bookings....

I thought you might find a post which has no basis in the truth (I'm assuming) funny.

One of the guys at work asked me if I wanted to go today.

I didn't as I thought it would be a bit odd booing both teams :)

1-1 gay

1-1

Fuck sake.

Fucking free kick.

Fucking hell.

Fucking Hell :badmood:

I know where I'm placing blame. cunt

 :)

You'd be shouting 'Off,Off,Off' after every challange.

FUCK! Last kick of the fucking half....


fuck, fuck, fuckety fuck fuck.... bollocks!  :doh:

Fucking...Cock !!!

Another fucking goal at the end of a half. Do these players minds enter the dressing rooms before their bodies...bollocks!

jesus wept. Referee scored that. Twat who took the free kick went and tapped his ass to thank him. Shocking decision to give that free kick.

Proper annoying. Concentrate lads, for fucks sake.Still, sound like we're dangerous going forward, just need to apply the pressure and take our chances in the 2nd half.

Thnak God I've stopped doing co-coms I'd have been banned for swearing at some point...these goals at the beginning/end of halfs are becoming a joke

who scored for oevil?

It's amazing how much difference one goal can make. Before it went in we were 14th and 3 points off 6th. After the goal we moved down two spots to 16th and are now only 2 points ahead of 21st

Alan Reeves

Got a text from my mate saying he awarded a freekick for nothing. Fuck sake.

JPM on for the injured Ferry. And away we go...

ferry off

Ahhh no. JP in the centre...great.

hopefully a big performance from JPM today, been quiet so far this season.

I'm worried about this half to say the least.

Midfield looks lacking somewhat without Dougie.

2-1

2-1. Oh dear.

fuck it

Fucking cunt fuck.

FUCKING HELL!

 :crash:

Fuck This.

Well done Lucas. You can leave now.

Jesus fuck.

We're rapidly becoming a joke this season.

Here we go again

Lucas yet again

What the fuck is going on :(

What a load of shit. I'm off, bye everyone.  :suicide:

Fuck sake. Another calamity goal.

Yeovil are now above us in the table. How depressing.

No!!!

It's getting too predictable.

Please start Smith on Tuesday

Wilson out

Plymouth are down to 9 men and are winning... Perhaps we should try it.

And to top if off we miss a great chance to make it 2-2 afterwards. Fucking wank.

Haha. What kind of team concedes to 9 men?!!! Oh...

This is becoming horribly predicatble.

:nod:

Not surprised in the slightest.

Well we played better with 10 men last week....may as well try it.

when smith has played people have been demanding lucas back in.

I agree with arriba RE: the goalkeeper issue.

JOKE!!! Its yeovil for fuck sake.

If you were Danny Wilson, what team would you put out against Charlton on tuesday ?

Let's see how this game finishes first....

but when lucas makes a mistake people want smith in  :)

one that will win, ow wait o'brain, great

O'Brien On for Paul Caddis.

COME ON SWINDON. PLLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEE.

Fucking hell, I leave the radio for 5 minutes, we concede and Ball does a fucking Cureton.

That's really gonna change the game isn't it.  ::) What the fuck is Wilson doing!

Not this one

Yes. But Lucas has made mistakes since then..

Looks like Wilson is listening to you ;)

Lucus has made at least 5 howlers in the past month. Would Smith has survived 5 howlers? I'm no Smithy fan but he deserves a chance.

Spot on

We want smith We want smith

3-1 fuck

3-1.

3-1. This is a fucking joke.

We're fucked

FUCK

FFS I've had enough of this

F-U-C-K!! I give up...

Wilson out.

 :suicide:

still the better keeper.not that i'd be bothered if smith came in

Oh fucking cunting bollocking shit balls.

Going down!

Complete fucking joke. Fuck off you bunch off cunts

Seriously getting fed up of this.

This isn't good.

This is getting a fucking joke -come on Swindon this is shit :no: :no:

Debatable on current form, last season -yes

Don't worry folks, Pericard is coming on

Shambolic defending. Is this ever going to get sorted out?

Nearly 4 there.

Nearly fucking 4-1

Get your money out town!!!! sort this shit out!!

Ball for Pericard.

Blood is boiling with rage, how the hell are we losing to Yeovil, have to question danny on this one, firstly why keep with Lucas with all these mistakes hes making, why bring on Obrien when he has only contributed to one goal this year, and have someone like Dossevi on the bench who can beat a man!

losing to yeovil is fucking embarrassing.

Oh deary deary me.

Lost for words.

Im off to get some crack.

I'm seriously depressed now.

We're complete dog shite.

rose freekick

In the last 5 games Lucas has let in more shots than he saves... That's no record for a goalkeeper.

3-1 against one of the poorer sides; we even made Dagenham look good. This can't go on for much longer.

Hate to say it but if this keeps up, can't see Danny still being in charge by Jan.

I have officially joined the slitting wrists brigade  :badmood:

wilson was quite a lucky manager last season thanks to certain individuals.this season his luck has run out and his flaws are all too apparant.
if austin fucks off in january then it will get even worse.

Only thing that is making me smile is that Pox are getting stuffed 3-0

If Austin fucks off in January, we'll struggle to stay in this division.

Face palming hardcore here. Fuck me.

We got problems, major!

This aint good. No adequate replacements.

I admit, we are only few points off playoffs, but if we continue this form, and i know form is only temporary, but class is permanent, but is Wilson the right man? I have always liked Wilson, and still do like him, but he cant seem to find a winning formula for us, and the possible losing against Yeovil is shocking, he needs to psych our players up so we can getting in a winnning mood and not drop confidence when we score

Wilson is starting to make Andy King look like a tactical genius.

We're struggling WITH Austin!

As it stands...

18   Yeovil Town   14   -8   17
19   Swindon Town   14   -3   16
20   Tranmere   14   -6   16
21   Hartlepool   14   -7   16
22   Leyton Orient   14   -3   14
23   Dag & Red   14   -8   14
24   Walsall              14   -8   11

I put the Radio on just as Yeovil scored.I just turned it off so expect a come back.

That makes grim reading.

We can't ever come back to win from going a goal down, but we sure as hell know how to let other teams do it to us!!

Come on for fucks sake ---COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNN :badmood:

Third time this season we've surrendered a winning position away from home...numerous goals at start-end of halves. Bottom line is manager has to take responsibility...team always being tinkered with....without Austin we are fucked. Agree with comment about overachieving last year...where in fucks name has all the money we must have made last season gone? It can't all be wages. Nobody other than has-beens like Frampton wants to come to the club on loan...this can't go on like this. Bet the post match will be the DW playbook of fottball cliche-like answers...

Yes it does, Especially when we lost to Dagenham and are losing to Yeovil and couldn't beat Leyton Orient at home.

I am also annoyed as I had Exeter in my accumalator. FFS

Hutchinson scores for Lincoln

Hate to say it but November is a really big month for Wilson. We could find ourselves out of the FA Cup and JPT as well as in the lower reaches of the league.....we all know what happened to Malpas at that point a few years back.

FFS. I can accept that we are not good enough to challenge this year but a relegation battle would not be acceptable. And that's obviously what we are heading for if we don't stop conceding stupid amounts of goals.

I rate Wilson as a manager and do would not like to see him under pressure. The formations employed just aren't working, and it could be argued they are due to injury but we need a settled 4-4-fucking-2.

LOads of red cards everywhere today, Poxford down to 9 men

Massive month for Wilson.

I've given him a lot of credit but this is tedious.

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Yep. I'm amazed we;ve still not gone back to 4-4-2

But we are a better team on paper this season

Look at the bright side.

At least you won't have to spend the last 30 mins waiting for us to concede an equalising/winning goal.

The team are just thinking of us poor fans by throwing the game away early enough that we don't get all excited & suffer a big letdown (like last season).  >:(

 :clap:

Good work Ben!  I fear that will not be enough for most though!

just knocked one out ben?

:eek:

Bring Ben back!

Think its time for Fitton to intervene and tell Wilson to buck up his ideas or he's out, we are better team on paper this year, if only football was played on paper......

I thoght pericard came on havent even hurd his name yet!!

Cureton just pulled one back

fittons interference is part of the problem i think.

I've heard it two or three times. He just won a corner. And even if I hadn't heard his name, it's not his fault the team are pissing around at the back and not getting the ball up to the strikers.

fucking dyke cunts

I've potentially won tonight's lottery...on paper.

Seriously?

The keepers are crap.
The defence is crap.
The midfield is crap.
The strikers are crap. (Except Austin)

Fuck it, were crap!

Care to elaborate arriba?

DW- i think the players showed great spirit to try and come back from two goals down, HA HA, wank :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

no spending money?

Agree to an extent. The thing is last season we were at least solid before we really kicked into gear. We're not even that at the moment. We're a shambles at the back....the midfield isn't settled and has suffered from injuries. We don't have enough firepower upfront to partner Austin.

rubbish

Don't be so fucking stupid.

Anyway, time to start cracking a few heads together.

Yeovil go close again :(

sees himself as a footballing brain and tries to get involved in team matters.flogged greer over wilsons head.who knows how else he may have had a negative effect?
now i aint banging the drum for wilson as he aint doing it this year.i just dont hold him fully accountable.

Note to self:

Don't log into the TEF tonight!

Cheers for that arriba.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes... I just want a bit of consistancy on the pitch.

Surprised, no!

Phil Smith in next game, fuck it - Kennedy, Evans, Thompson and fucking Bodin as well.

Wilson needs to get some better players in and he needs to do it fast (3 months back)

Its only october ffs blah blah blah

Apart from the players we pucrahsed in the summer, Like Ferry and Caddis.

I'm not sure I can place my finger on the problem.  It's somwhere between the midfield and the defence.

Ward and Paynter are big gaps, but do they mean we ship 11 in 4?

Douglas missing games, and not pairing up with Ferry, combined with McGovern losing all sense of any form, Kev playing poorly at right back and a defence lacking a leader?  Sounds as if all 3 goals today were just plain give aways so I doubt a formation will have had any impact.  Sounds more like we are sturggling to get 11 players playing together.  If it continues then the answer has to be personnel changes, but that may just make the problem worse in the short term while new players gel.

I blame big kev for today

And you know that how?  He didn't flog greer over Wilsons head at all.  Greer was for completely different reasons!

massive gamble throwing in the young uns now.could ruin them...

Utter rubbish blaming it on Fitton

Jerel Ifil wants to come back

To be fair Arriba we don't know how much he does or does not interfere.

goal!

3-2...

3-2 c'mon on

COME ON! get 1 more!

3-2 morrison

Bit late, but game on.

yay

pointless me trying to explain as you obviously wont have it.it's my opinion and i'm sticking to it though.

Come on now Swindon

Fully agree. The midfield and defence are not working as a team, meaning we are conceding goals.

We need a clean sheet or two...very quickly.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

woooooooooooo

3-3.

WTF!

3-3 hahahaha.

fuck yeah!!!

get in!

JPM!!!!

ben's lesbians worked.

Am I dreaming?

Now let's fucking win it

Bradford 4 Pox 0

YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! i take back all i said :p

Wtf!

heck yeah!

We are going up, we are going up. Wilson is our saviour etc...

FUCK YEAH!!!!!

Wilson in! :D

Lesbians always work for me.I think I am one.

What the bloody hell

Hmm, I was going to expand on my points and suggest Morrison needs to take rest while we get some experience in to defence and McGovern has probably seen his best days.........

What was I angry for again?

How the fuck has that happend!!!!!!

Still 3 minutes left...

Still shit if we dont win  should be beating Leyton Orient and Yeovil

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss-I hate fucking football :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

if virgo scores I will kill someone.

try reading what is said.you've said rubbish once already.
i'm not blaming fitton,but i think he has played a part in it.


anyway game on

Ben,

Get some more lesbo's up....quick !!

this is fucked up!

Come on you fucking reds

told ya
 :doh:

3 mins added

haha you stupid cunt

get a grip and shut the fuck up


come on you reds!!

Human hearts are not built for this level of stress

went up stairs to run a bath and this happens!!

I just heard that song.

Yeovil winner coming up shortly!

Afternoon chaps! Just got in. Have I missed anything?

corner..............

Pox 5-0 down now...

come on peri

Nah not really.

come on Swindon

FT 3-3.

Good comeback but papers over the cracks again for me.

Its never easy being a swindon faan :girlgiggle:

yeovil fans must be gutted. chortle.

Agree. That is a game we really should have won.

All over. Poor result but relieved to get a draw. Would have been a million times happier with 1-1 or 0-0. There is clearly something there in our squad, but we are out the bottom 4 by 1 point and 5 points off the playoffs. We need it sorting out.

Another excuse for Wilson to say how we showed great fight and great spirit to come back blah blah blah.

Not happy with that.

Its bloody Yeovil ffs.

2 points from Orient and Yeovil. Still dissapointing in truth.

Are we happy with a draw at Yeovil? Really?

Very good summary from the co-commentator, agree with him, Wilson needs to re-assess our formation, team has got potential we have a lot of goals in us. Big month for Wilson, it will make or break our season

In the context of the game, delighted.

Well done for coming back Town, but there is a lot of work that needs to be done. Can we stop conceding comedy goals please?

In the context of the league, dissapointed.

When we're 3-1 down with 5 mins left....Yes.

Overall...No.

Actually we're a point ahead of the drop zone and 5 off the play-offs. But yes, things need to change. That was a great comeback. The first half against Posh was a great comeback. The problem is clear - we're putting ourselves into stupid positions. Had Austin not hit the post things might have been very different, but that doesn't excuse shipping three goals to a team in the bottom four

I really dont think it helped not having Cuthbert in the middle.

I don't know what to think.

In a way losing 3-1 might have been the best thing for us (asides from a win, of course). Had that happened then whatever needs to be done might have got done and quickly.

This is exactly what worries me. Whilst I admire our fighting spirit in games recently we have not been performing well enough to deserve to win games. It needs sorting. I know Wilson will be working hard on it as will the players but we simply can't keep coming away from every game saying "yes great spirit etc". If we were to come up against Brighton tomorrow we'd get dicked with our defence as poor as it is at the moment.

we'll we're getting good at scraping draws against the shittest teams in the league.
beat the better sides and we'll be ok.

plagarist. :smugfu:

I'm elated with the comeback but it papers the cracks.

So, do we let the team that finished the game start the next one?  If Ferry is ok, maybe him back in and O'Brien on the bench.  It's probably about time we tried to keep the team unchanged with 4-4-2 for a few games and see if the consistency in the team selection breads last seasons consistency in performance.

Come January I think there are some decisions to be made on personnel though.  I'd take a centre half, a right back if Caddis isn't one (Darby would work for me) and probably a forward to take the pressure off of Austin.  The latter is the least needy, but I think the centre half needs to be player with a fair amount of experience and some pace if possible.  It would be harsh on someone like Morrison, especially given what has just happened but it needs something for the good of the team in that position to sure several positions up.  Maybe that was what Greer added, maybe players grew around him even when he wasn't on tip top personal form.

Yeah, looked at BBC and they had 3-3 but with us on 16. Corrected it as soon as I realised!

Agree with your points. Its as simple as we can't continue to concede this many so frequently. How to resolve it is the question. My opinion is the formation is leaving us exposed. Others may say its down to personnel or stupid errors.

But we played 4-4-2 today Batch.

In a nutshell.

Let's not forget we have Sheehan, Douglas and Manks out with Pericard coming on after being out for a while.

Also, Frampton hasn't had much time to fit in.

Agree with all of that.

My opinion is we have such good individuals that Wilson has changed formation to accommodate them rather than leave some out to benefit the team.

Lucas
Caddis (Two CBs) Rose
JPM Ferry Douglas Ritchie
Austin Pericard

If Wilson picks a team along those lines for the next game I'll be happy enough. Prutton would probably play instead of Dougie, and Ball might play instead of Pericard, but the 4-4-2 with JPM wide right is what I want to see.

agreed.
I know what, lets sack the board shall we?

dopey twat  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

where have i said that you thick cunt?
2+2=5

nutshell

The only thing I won't have is the Greer thing because it's not true, so no I won't have that.  If the rest is just your opinion then fair enough!  Your post suggested you were in the know. 

you're good at the one word posts.fuck all to back it up though

Arriba is Andy Fitton :D

He clearly isnt

Bring back Willie Carson, he'll pay fuck all attention to the team- he'll sit back and give us cash, just what we like.

He daren't pay any interest in the club

arriba's a fucking moany hack

full of shit nothing positive to say about the club. can't stand fans like that.

What about 3-5-2? Reputation is dangerous at this level granted, but Exeter use it. Worked very well against us last year I thought they were amongst the best defensively that I saw last season. Bad day to use the Exeter example, they shipped in 4 I know, but I think we have the players for it.

                                     Lucas/Smith
                          Cuthbert Morrison Frampton
   Caddis                                                          Rose/Sheehan
              Prutton/McGovern Douglas Ritchie/Ferry
                          Charlie  Ball/Dossevi/Pericard

Smokescreen

You reckon?

He speaks sense a lot of the time

He doesn't.

Agreed, just on certain matchday's he let's his emotions run away with him!  Other than that he has a more levelled view than most on here!  All part of the fun of match day threads!

The abuse isnt called for though is it? (Not by you obviously)

A rough summary of what Wilson said...

"We don't learn our lessons. We've got to do better than that. We should have just cleared it before their first. It's not good enough. The second goal was too easy. Decision-making has to be better. David Lucas is a quality player but has made mistakes. They've scored 3 and that's down to ourselves. We know we can create but we have to stop being over-adventurous at times to make sure we are solid. We should have pressed to put the game to bed at 1-0 up and didn't. We need stability in the defence but haven't had it."

I was thinking today how much more I enjoyed football when I had no idea about the rest of the league and what other fans thought via forums and various other internet mediums. I remember going to the games, reading the Adver and only really getting wound up at the idiot sat next to me and not the game.

I don't know why I posted that, but I think it's because when shit isn't going great, the fire that gets lit online - and which grows at a ridiculous rate - often annoys me more than the underlying reasons that the fire started in the first place.

...or something. :)

Nope it's not!  But arriba has a great way of posting in a condesending way which can wind some up!  I have been accused of this too, but I am a sarcastic fucker, I don't think he is!

He says that every week!

TEF keeps dying!

Even the site has had enough!

fitton has openly admitted that he likes to get involved in team matters.if it works out then great,but when it doesn't then how can his input not have had an impact? i'm sure he was the major factor in greer leaving too.
i've not said anything about him or the manager going,but when you are in those positions you take the praise when its all good,and you take the flack when it isn't.

some of my comments today have been blown out of proportion and i certainly have not tried to be condescending(dunno how it can be seen that way to be honest)

i've responded in the way i have been addressed.
i love the debate that gets thrown up on here,but lets deal with what i do say,not the shite that gets added to it and misinterpreted though.

see you next tuesday

Are you trying to get a date?

Dont let them bother you arriba.....there both getting ready for bed now....no need for people like jb and co to get personal really...
As for the game i didnt go but a good friend has been in touch...he was pleased with the fight in the team but alas has to report that the tactics once again were piss poor..his words not mine.
Also the discipline that served us well last season is starting to betray us.....giving away silly free kicks etc...indeed my mate Frampton was fortunate to escape with a yellow and not get red.

For what it is worth i think it is a good point gained....they are a tough team at home.
Charlton will be a big test and no doubt we will beat them and leave us all scratching our heads and wondering what will happen next.

Sorry but how did I get personal?

Calling someone a cunt...and indeed dopey twat?......Plagiarist said this and you agreed...no need really in my eyes.

arriba can fight his own battles but i like to think i have never called anyone a cunt when someone dont agree with me.
On the plus side it was a good point gained in the end.

ha didn't realise I posted that. Apologies, that was pretty uncalled for.

Did you not type it then? ;)

Don't do it again, ya cunt.

Well done on a point gained lads, good comeback today. Still expect you to make the play offs this season. Fingers crossed we can make automatic this season but still a long way to go, you don't win anything in October.  :)

Didn't realise we got a draw, never saw the results, had to go and drop the other half off at her m8s. That's not too bad after being 3-1 down. Trouble is we need to be getting that second goal to kill off teams and give a bit of a cushion, but that doesn't appear to be happening. Better go check Poole's result too

No I quoted it

Smug is the word i was looking for >:(

Poole won 4-1 away at Alton

@leefer Brock lost 5-1 at home to Romsey

Cheers...........The Badgers are in freefall!

They are 18th leefer, not good. They want to know if you still have your boots?

I do....though the studs are moulded to the soles,that makes them old.

Been busy this afternoon so only just found out the score.  This is getting silly.  I'm going to put a tenner on our next game finishing 4-4.  Fair play to the lads for the finale, but why do we do this?

Also just had a look at the table, and I have to say that I'm astounded that after the opening ¼ season we've had, we're still only 6 points off an automatic promotion place.  On this form, we'll be nowhere near this at the end of the season...but keep hoping.  We started slowly last year as well.  We have more resources, more fans and a better management team (on & off the field) than most of the teams in this division.  Sooner or later, that will have to tell.

That'll do leefer, give em a ring

@Ardiles, think it's hope that keeps us going. We have a good side on paper, so why does it keep going wrong?

so you forgot reading the trolls post,clicking quote,typing your usual 1 word respsonse,then clicking post?
ok then....

i really dont give a shit about the name calling etc,but if you think i'm talking bollocks at least have an argument to counter what i've said.

Two home matches to come in the lge..both tough....Charlton beat Wednesday..Colchester won at Bournemouth...........so we should win them both!

We're 2 points worse off than at the same stage last season, it was about now that we started a decent run.....2 tough fixtures coming up...

Come on, I've apologised, we were 3-1 down- everything got blown completely out of proportion..

Normally try and look for the positives but this is getting fucking stupid. That's 5, arguably 6, points dropped and 10 goals conceded in the last 3 games, most of them stupid. If we had those points we'd be in the play-off places looking at automatic, and with momentum behind us having put a shaky start behind us. As it is we seem to be getting shakier and that 5-point gap looks like a chasm. Really fucking fed up.

Sorry about the name calling etc, but got to say to arriba (wum), if you're that easily offended by being called names by faceless internet geeks, the internet probably aint the best place for you buddy!


ps lighten the fuck up you cunt

Why has a brighton fan randomly come on? How odd

Just got back.

Well we weren't good, first half was disjointed but Prutton was standing out in midfield, bossing it as he should do.  Unlucky not to go in 2 up after hitting the post.  The ref gave a ridiculous free kick for that led to their goal.  The ball bounced off of Rose's foot and hit his hand, no way was it handball.  As I said the scorer went and gave a nice pat to the refs ass when he was running back.  If an buts, however it could have been so different.

Second half they came out and were duly gifted a goal from a clanger from Lucas.  You could see he was frustrated at the ball still being in their and a rush of blood made him go for it when he was never going to get it.

Third goal was just a punt up and slow defence.

We seemed to have much more when Vinnie came on but he is frustrating.  He wins every ball and then passes it backwards when he could play the ball in diagonally to on rushing midfielders.  AOB caused them a lot of trouble through sheer pace as well.

All in all fantastic to come back, we deserved a point but put ourselves in the situation where we had to rescue it.  We should be performing a lot better than we are.

As usual officials were shit.  How the ref could not give a card in the first half when their player went barreling into ball (I think) I don't know.  Wilson should have headbutted the twat when he had the chance.

i aint offended by name calling.
but what does wum mean?

Wind up merchant

  :D

Come on arriba....thats an apology.

Wum" is the female discharge or female Cum. Womanly cum thus the everyday word WUM.

"Holy crap Bertha, you got wum all over me!"

[urban dictionary]

Dont know if he meant this?

Left early and missed the goals - second half was as bad as the first one last week, we didn't create a thing.

Pericard played as bad as I have seen him play, his time is running out I think as he simply isn't good enough.

Credit to the lads for getting it back.

Well and truely (accidently) copped a handfull of JPM's bollocks when he jumped into the crowd.

ok so we're 2 points off where we were this time last year but it's a totally different feel.

Last year, expectations had been kept in check by a shocking recent history and an opening day 5-0 reverse whereas this year only the more depressive would not have started hoping that we might do a Milwall.

Last year the lesson learnt from the opening day was to stop conceding and it was only about now that Austin had been one or two games with us to supplement Tope and Hutchinson and so on - still keeping it tight at the back meant no one messed with us, even when we weren't quite as good as the oppo.  Ward hadn't really got going and whilst Billy certainly performed as he always did (better than the others at scoring and bringing others into the game and making life difficult for defenders), I still didn't appreciate he had it in him to become the hot striker that he became.

Charlie changed things up front.

What had happened after Priestfield was that we had become hard to beat and now we seem to be as soft as JJ's wum (never heard that expression JJ but fair play for your choice of avatar) and to open up just as easily.

The day we scored 4 at Posh, Brighton scored 4 at Charlton - there the similarities end.


You can talk about players (and I think Douglas seems worryingly key more so in my view than Greer) but I'd say Wilson's job is to start getting us mean at the back and if he can't do it again over this next couple of months, then let's get someone who can - even if it's someone to help him.

That pretty much sums up how I feel at the moment Mr D. We have a very good squad of players, an excellent manager and for the first time in the club’s history, owners/directors with real financial backing, a proper long term vision for the club going forward and who genuinely care about the club. And yet for whatever reason, it’s just not happening on the pitch.

But because we do have Danny Wilson at the helm (800+ games as a manager, you have to know what you’re doing. NO ONE is that lucky) and Fitton & Co backing him up and providing a sound financial platform on which to operate from, I have 100% absolute faith that this situation WILL get turned around. It’s a question of WHEN not IF.

I’m not a ‘happy clapper’, just a realist. And the fact is, this is the best the club has ever been run, with a decent man in charge of first team affairs. Given these circumstances, success cannot be that far away. In past seasons, given the way results have been going, I would have given up the ghost by now. Given the current set up though, I just can't do that.

It doesn’t take that much to turn a season around.

One thing is certain, we have to keep hold of Charlie come January

I would've liked to have seen a FACT, at the end of that. And I agree. A reasoned sensible post that raises 2 fingers to anyone talking of sacking danny and/or slashing wrists.

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We're unbeaten in 2, got a point from an unlikely situation, and have discovered a goalscoring centre half from Plymuff called Sean.  Austin is still knocking them in and we seem to have a good spirit in the squad. We might not be tearing up trees, but it's not that bad.

Were you there today, Reg?

Nope...

I know it's fair to say it's not that bad but it was an incredibly frustrating performance, the usual mistakes along with a complete lack of shape and creativity in the second half and I really am starting to wonder when we will turn it around.

May be unbeaten in 2, but look who we played - 2 sides who we should be beating if we are to be in and around the top 6. They were both shite, make no doubt about that but we were barely any better and were fortunate to come away with a point from both of those matches. Against better sides we would have come away well beaten.

Well well well.

What an abolsute load of pathetic shit. Almost mirror image of the Dagenham match with the good start and then turnaround by the hosts.

First half we were on top, although only just. Think Yeovil's early substitution changed it for them, really added to their forward power. Fucking ridiculous decision by the ref and his lover lino for the free kick that led to their goal. Why oh why must officials be so fucking shite these days i don't know.

Second half it was obvious Yeovil were going to have the momentum and it showed. Their second was another aboslute clanger by Lucas, much like the Plymouth match, which i think merits him being dropped. The third was a poorly played offside trap, with their bloke benfitting with a good finish. Just as i gave up and thought it was all over.

O'brien for the first time in my memory actually came on and made an impact! Scared the shit out of their right back, causing them to nervously give away throw-ins and corners, and ultimately the set pieces were their downfall.

Yes, the comebacks are good and positive, but we're still dropping points againstm forgive me, teams we should be looking to beat. It's really time to start stringing a sequence of results together, yet we're still as inconsistent as ever.

A word on Frampton - he was slow but otherwise a very accomplished debut. Nervous about his fouling though!

And a final word on that cunt Adam Virgo. He's really let himself go, fucking huge these days. I hope Yeovil get relegated just so he can feel some of the pain from 2003/04.

There's little to choose between a lot of teams in this league...eg Yeovil had OTJ a player we tried to sign a while back, Orient had Revell a player we certainly had a good look at.

So nothing is going to be done easily, and all points have to be scrapped for...we move on to Charlton....

i think you have it right.that little bit of quality from an individual is what saw us good last year.lacking it now is seeing us struggle this term.
lucas for instance who was mint last year, is now being slated and wished for dropping by some.

These random shifts in fitness, form, ref decisions etc is what plague most teams at this level. So for example about this time last year Paynter was out of the side...he then comes back in scores a couple at Tranmere and away he goes.  Lucas will doubtless come good again...

maybe our no.1 could do with a break/rest - give smithy a chance he deserves it also we're not getting rub of green at mo - today austin hits post / they score from free kick which should never have happened also anyone that wants rid of the boss needs to think twice - who do you suggest we replace him with ? just let him carry on doing a great job - things will turn for us eventually - just hope it wont be too late for us to push for play offs at least - DANNY WILSONS RED & WHITE ARMY

To be fair, if there is anyone out there who thinks DW needs to go, they first need to be ignored and then lobotomised.  We're going through a sticky patch.  That's it.  Happens to the best of them.

If we're 16th or lower in 6 months from now, then I'll change my tune.  But we won't be.  I imagine we're going to be Danny Wilson's Red & White Army for some time to come.

Hope your right we're just not getting the same fortune as last season at moment - settled team no injuries / suspentions - this makes all the difference to a team/squad our size - keep the faith ......

Said I wasn't going to log on tonight because of what I expected to be a pit of despair but I am pleasantly surprised by the majority being realistic views.  I can understand the match attending posters slitting their wrists after the day that they have experienced but most other posts are quite realistic which is nice for a Saturday night!

Millwall of last season are still giving me hope.  Keep the faith until at least Xmas and then we can organise a mass suicide!

Did they have that shitty trumpet again?

 :no:

They did have a cow bell, thankfully didn't use it much. That is probably the quietest game of football I've been to I reckon


Got pissed off and left 5 minutes before the end 'cos we didn't even look like creating anything and seemed like they'd given up?!

Heard the cheers for the goals on the way back to the car...at least I got to stand in the cold for a couple of hours

The bloke with the cowbell was out before me.  If I could have been arsed I woulld have taken the piss but i couldnt.

Ive been drinking.  Fuck you alllllllllll!!!!!.

Gk. Keeping up a proud TEF tradition. 

Good day out.
Was in the Arrow when some bloke (I think it was jayohaitchenn) says to me "Are you Ginginho?" I said yeah. He said "I thought so, you look just like your avatar!"
:)

Urgh, I feel rough this morning.

Didn't think we were as bad yesterday as some people thought.  I think the dreadfull 20 mins after the break erased the memory of the 1st half that i thought we controlled throughout and we should have been 2 up the break.

I doubted the AOB and Vince subs at the time but on reflection Caddis did fuck all and AOB had their right back in his pocket, his put in the some decent balls as well.  Thought Vince did ok as well.

You just have to hope the last 5 mins has built up some confidence to carry on into Tuesday.

 

Apart from that 20 minute spell we run that game, Lucas well everything has been said including the interview on the radio from DW
Good fight back by the lads BUT we always concede goals therefore we have to currently rely on scoring at least 2 a game to win

Currently, we need to score 4 or 5 to win!

not that scoring 4 always works...

Yeah you are right i was trying to have the glass half full :)

Ten people are predicting 0-0 for Swindon v Charlton.

WHO THE HELL ARE THESE PEOPLE?

I expect the people who havent put in a prediction yet as it defaults to 0-0 I think.

Really? Is that relatively new then, as there are plenty of people who the table lists as having missed one or more games, wouldn't they just have been 0-0'ed for that?

They'd still need to hit submit. 

I think it displays it as 0-0 but it isnt a submitted prediction, doesnt count towards points but appears in the stats on the right hand side.

...or of course 10 people actually think we'll draw 0-0 against Charlton. I know we have some mentally unstable retarded idiots on the TEF - but thinking we'll draw 0-0 is going a bit far!

I dunno Dave. There's 66 people in the league and only 21 predictions, 10 of which are 0-0. I think we really do have 10 0-0 predictions! I'll give someone 100-1 on that.

is it possible to identify the 10?  may need to section them for their own safety.

Oh dear oh dear.

Did I really do that.  Sorry.  I love you all really.

I think John and Si Pie feel even worse :)


I saw this post and must say I agree. Yesterday with Cuthbert being moved to right back just so him, Morrison and Frampton could all be accommodated in the team being a prime example.

I can't work out whether it's individuals thinking they are bigger than the team, or Wilson just having favourite players that will always play if they are fit. McGovern was rightly dropped to the bench after a few poor performances and it showed when he came on that it'd given him a kick up the arse. It fucks me off that Lucas has dropped quite a few clangers this season and Smith is never given a chance.

I'm confident that the sooner Wilson/the team can get over this, the sooner we'll start moving up the table.

Good points Sam though i disagree with your remarks regarding Lucas.
He has gained us valuable points this season with some great saves.......what do you do bring Smith in untill he has a bad patch then drop him also?
For me personally you pick your number one keeper and stick with him unless injury is a concern.

you bring in Phil Smith (as we do when Lucas gets injured) and if he plays well (which he does when Lucas gets injured) then you keep him in the team (which we dont)

I dont see how you can pick a number 1 keeper and stick with him, if he's off form and dropping clangers then he deserves to be dropped, as does anyone in any position under performing. On that note, you could say 'you pick your team at the start of the season and stick with it unless injury is a concern' then you are fucked if that team plays badly.

In football, no position should be set in stone. If Lucas is playing badly (he is) and we have more than good enough back up (we do) then that back up should get a chance.

I agree with Dave. If the keeper is out of sorts for a sustained period then a change has to be made because of the effect on the whole defensive side of your game. There's nothing wrong with changing the goalkeeper to give the first choice a break or to give the second choice a chance. It's when you start doing it every 3-4 weeks that it becomes a problem.

Well it felt like a win at the end but it was shit.

ANY side that makes Virgo look world class MUST be shit!  FACT.  The fat Dog the Bounty Hunter lookalike won every fucking header and every tackle and only had to work hard when Vince came on. :suicide:

We pissed the first 20 minutes and if Austins second effort had gone in you would of expected a win, it was not to be.

Their free kick was shit.  Lets not talk about the wall disolving but the fact a free kick is given because a professional footballer makes a first touch and kicks the ball into his hand - that is shit - hold your head in shame!!!! :doh:

Then they pissed all over us.

We had one chance that Ball missed (i wonder how the crowd would of reacted to Vince if he had missed a simple tap in like that?) and after that it was all them.

Lucas made a massive fuck up for the second no where near the ball....
 :badmood:
However, I suddenly felt confident we would get a point when their keeper went Awol and allowed Morrison to bury the corner as they just collapsed and Frampton nearly grabbed a winner near the end.

Felt for Vince being thrown into a match like that but he actually won some aerial battles and held the ball up well and O'Brien did well when he ran at them.

Terrible ground for atmosphere and i have yet to see a great game of football there (this was my 5th or 6th time there).

Roll on Charlton, lets see if we can improve against better sides.

A mate of mine sat in the Yeovil end and commented on Austin:

'He doesnt seem to have alot of pace, his touch is'nt the best in the world, but he knows where the goal is and that is worth its weight in gold!'.

Thats all!

I fully understand your point,problem for me is that both keepers have dodgy spells and you would be swapping many times during a season...........as i said for me you pick your number 1 and stick with him.
Would you drop Austin if he went ten games without scoring..........i wouldn't cos i see him as my number one striker...regardless off form he would be in.
Smith is a good keeper and good back up if Lucas gets injured.

If Austin went 10 games without scoring and say Pericard was coming off the bench, playing well and scoring - then yes I'd drop Austin to give him a rest/break/kick up the arse and start the form player.

Smith hasnt had a dodgy spell for ages, in part because he hasnt had a run in the team admittedly but generally because now Malpas is long gone as is that shit goal keeper coach whatever the fuck his name was, Smith isnt a bad keeper - not as bad as we like to think as we all want to remember his clangers. He's had far more good games than bad for us (as has Lucas as well, about 98% of his Town clangers have come in the last 10 games!)

There is no point, or logic in continuing with an out of form player because 'you picked him as....' at the start of the season. Our defence has changed, our midfield has changed and so have our strikers. No reason why we cant change the goal keeper.

All the Premiership clubs have there number one keepers...many make mistakes,many have dodgy spells...........Cech,Green,Raina,etc,etc...........they will all be picked barring injury.
You have your number one and pick them in my eyes........and i dont believe you would drop Austin for Pericard.....however bad a run Charlie was having...your telling porkies  :D

These aren't isolated incidents with lucas though. He's cost us a lot of goals recently

I agree.....but the fact is Dave is that for me we have swapped and changed formation to much this season...last years success was built on players being happy where they played.....the outfield players is abit different....you want to play a defensive game you maybe wouldn't pick Manks...he is a more attacking defender......not the same with a keeper in my eyes,but agree that he needs to start earning his corn.

Those Premiership keepers listed dont make many mistakes. Pepe Reina has made 2 in about 5 years at Liverpool - plus all those keepers are ALOT better than the #2 keeper. Chelsea's reserve keeper is Ross Turnbell, released by Middlesborough - he's only there so they can meet their quote of young english players.

Changing the keeper wont change the formation and Lucas has already missed a few games injured, so its not like Smith hasnt played at all this season - or last season either. He wont exactly be a stranger to the rest of the team.

Well you may get your wish anyway,Smith will probably be in next Saturday anyway in the cup...probably a big night for Lucas on Tuesday as regards being the regular custodonian between the sticks.
For me i would pick him as my number one every match.........but understand your view.

didn't see lucas's mistake yesterday but he does seem to be suffering a dip in form.wilson favours him though so i dont reckon he'll be dropped.whether that is the correct decision remains to be seen.

Wilson didn't rule out dropping Lucas after the match. Said he'll have a chat with him and take it from there.

I'm sure Lucas would be disappointed with his recent performances and is more than experienced enough to handle being dropped.  The aregument about needing to stick by your first choice keeper because his confidence could take a knock is moot when you're talking about a 32 yo with best part of 300 games under his belt.

If it was only 1 or 2 mistakes, I'd give him more time, like he has been given. But now it's reached 4 or 5 I think dropping him for a spell has to be considered. Smithy is more than capable of taking up the mantle.

If the keeper is suspect it puts lack of confidence in the defense however where was the defense for the third goal, also we need Douglas back, how long will he be out for?

That wasnt my argument!...my argument is that he is our best keeper..so should be picked...fully understand people will differ with me on this one.

Yeah that was me.