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Personally I would like to see Dossevi up there with Vince. His pace, tenacity and skill combined with Vince's aerial presence could work very well.

How long is Charlie out for?

Don't know yet. Depends if it was straight forward pop out and in dislocation, or whether there is any other damage. I think they'll leave it for a few days to settle down before making a diagnosis so I doubt we'll know before Monday/Tuesday.

Anyhow, googling around it seem it could be 8 - 12 weeks for it to properly heal assuming no complications/surgeory required. But I don't know if there is more they can do to protect it and allow him to play sooner.

I think that in these situations it's best to ask "What would Andy King do?".

LJF upfront anyone?

It depends on the formation Wilson chooses to use but if he perseveres with this diamond shape, I'd put Ball up front as a straight replacement for Charlie and play Dossevi in "the hole", perhaps dropping Prutton to accomodate JPM and add a little width. If we revert to 4-4-2 then Dossevi for Austin, Vince and Dossevi can form a gallic partnership

Has to be Dovvesi.....tips hat to Phil "The king" King, who cannot ever get his name right.

prob need to get a goalscorer in, pericard and dossevi may click but 50 goals from paynter and austin will be a huge gap for them to fill

Havnt been impressed with Ball.but this could be his chance to play as an out and out forward.

This may be a blessing in disguise as Austin was never going to be dropped to give a different option up front. We may find that Dossevi and Pericard are the Paynter and Austin of last season.

Stranger things have happened!

Ha Ha! Ace.

Is Van Der Linden still without a club? He always used to shine when thrown forward by the mercurial King.

The guy next to me spotted what looked like Charlie stood next to our dugout during the celebrations at the final whistle, and he wasn't wearing a sling and appeared to be moving both arms. If it was him it would appear that it isn't that bad and hopefully he will only be out for a couple of weeks.

In the meantime, Dossevi to partner Pericard. Be nice for them both to get the opportunity to play a full 90 minutes.

Mercurial is a perfect word for Andy King! :D

Start with Pericard and Ball - Dossevi on the bench.

My 6 year old said he was down by the dugout at the end and I told him that it couldn't have been him because he'd be at the hospital by now, maybe I owe him an apology?

I think I'd probably go Pericard and Dossevi initially.

Dossevi for me. He looks like a very good player. Just a bit small but when you have Pericard up there with him it could work well.

Dossevi has got to be 6ft, surely?

I always thought Twat was a better one.

yes he is and pericard is only 6ft1

I think Dossevi too
I enjoyed his piece in 442 he seems kern to prove himself

Probably Dossevi but only if our defence dont go into - we've got two big strikers up front so all we will do with the ball is HOOOOOOOOOOF 'coz they're big! mode

I'd like to see Ball given a chance.

Ball looked good when he came on yesterday, loved his glimpses of skill on the ball to get away from three or four Southampton players in the centre circle just before the final whistle.

Ball, if Dossevi is in the side we will need O'Brien in it because the lack of pace in the side is clear to see, and was an issue yesterday.

I'll have a go... if not would like Ball up top with Pericard and Dossevi sat behind in the hole.

Agree with that McGovern has not done much this season to be honest.

Seconded

We all dream of a team of Jean Francois'..

I believe you will find Charlie went off in an ambulance, it arrived about ten minutes before the final whistle all blues and twos.  Of course Charlie may have a double, if that is the case play him up front, or the ambulance could have been for somebody else!

Arrived?

I thought that an ambulance would have been there throughout, even if it is a St Johns ambulance.

And is there not an ambulance station just down the road anyway? (Granted I've not been back to blighty for a while!)

When was the last time you were back in the UK BR, and what was the last match you saw?

I left in April 2000. I can't remember the last match I saw.

I concede that a decade away has likely skewed my memory. Maybe I dreamt the ambulances, or perhaps my mind has somehow turned the ever present meat wagons into ambulances.

My eyesight wasn't good enough to confirm if the player concerned was Charlie or not from the far side of the DRS, but the guy next to me was adamant it was him. If as Wilson said post match, the shoulder popped 'Out and back in again', I would have thought that an ambulance using blue lights and two tones might have been a bit ott.

We'll probably find out one way or another tomorrow morning.

Shoulders are bad news because they dont have much of a joint, its mainly muscle that takes a long time to heal.

Its what finnished Barry Corr off at Swindon.

This is very very bad news for us.

Such injuries didn't do Bryan Robson any favours either Spencer.

A guy who sits next to us though he saw Charlie in the dugout too. But it doesn't make sense if it was a shoulder dislocation as Wilson said.

As I said earlier, it seems even  a straightforward dislocation can take 8-12 weeks, but I guess its going to be weaker and a higher risk from then on. Still at least it might fend of any interest in January until it is proven to have healed.

They are hoping for 4-6 weeks. He didnt go to the hospital.

That would be a top result then! Still may knacker our season mind, but that remains to be seen.

According to Anthony Marshall at the Adver, he did go to GWH and was discharged just after 6pm.

The positives from this is now we can see how we'll cope without Austin should he go in January, then again this injury could keep him here through the window. I think Ball, Pericard and Dossevi can step up to the plate.

Ball for me...

we should bring someone in.thought this prior to saturday and austins injury only cements my opinion more.
we are back to being a hoof ball side and i dont like it.

has Tope Obadeyi joined another club yet? Bet he could do a job for us? ;)

Ive got faith in Dossevi. He was very good on Saturday, and is improving every week. I think the real question is ball, pericard or a.n.other alongside him

Am I just being a cynic in thinking that last season might have been a one off what with being out of contract at the end of the season?

From what I've seen of Ball so far he seems too light weight to play a full 90 minutes up front. He looked better on Saturday, coming on for the last 20 minutes or so when the defence were a bit tired but I cant see him starting yet.

Pericard & Dossevi for me, Ball on the bench as impact sub

I did say that a few times last year but i don't think thats the case now. I just don't think the system suits him but as results are showing it suits the team so we have to think about the bigger picture don't we.

Simon Cox on loan would be nice...

On his way to Reading on loan according to Mr Fitton on Saturday.

Dossevi was terrific when he came on.  A really intelligent footballer!  He seems to have a picture of where palyers are on the pitch before he gets the ball which means he doesnt have to take a touch, look around and the pass the ball!

I dont think he will get 20-25 goals a season, but would it be a possibility to play him behind a front two or at the head of a midfield diamond?

That would be my ideal option with him coming in for Prutton. McGovern and ferry either side of Douglas .

Exactly the same, when Charlie is fit anyway.

I'd play 4 3 3 with Ball Pericard and Dossevi up front. And with Ferry, Prutton and Douglas the 3 behind. Stick with the defence (for now).

still maintain that we need to get loan striker cover. Just going with 3 unproven strikers for a playoff push is a very high risk strategy

Strikers don't become proven unless they are given a chance, I don't understand signing another without giving Ball or Dossevi a go.  Both Ball and Dossevi look like they have some good attributes and this will be their first time playing off of a big man in Vince, lets give them 2 or 3 games and see if they are capable of filling Charlie's boots and then if they are not go into the loan market.

High risk strategy?  We're only talking "several" weeks, it's not like he's out for the season.  Gives the others a chance to come in and make a claim for a starting place.  Ball or Dossevi could come in, do a "Ward", and be the best thing since sliced bread.

Agree with the above, DW obviously rates Vinnie, and to be fair to him he's hit the back of the net 3 times in the last 3 games (the cracking header from Sat being unfortunately offside). Those who couldn't make the game, or like me were sat in the Town End and didn't get a clear view of just how good Vinnie's header was, take a look at the video on the bbc site: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/default.stm

Don't think we'll be looking to bring anyone in either after Danny's comment below...

"We've got a couple of strikers in the club who are champing at the bit to play and they deserve opportunities, so we'll see how we go." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/8993451.stm

I also think Dossevi is an incredibly intelligent footballer as others have mentioned, and is looking like he could be an incredibly potent force for us! So to cut this long string of bollocks to a short summary...

Vinnie + Dossevi, bringing ball on for Vinnie  :bye:

Besides which, signing a "proven goalscorer" on loan is a fairly tough task even if we wanted to.

Not sure how an international footballer in Dossevi and a well travelled Pericard can be considered unproven... They might not be prolific goalscorers but they've both played at a high level!

Agreed, I think anyone expecting some big name loan signing because Charlie is out for a few weeks will be deluding themselves  :beers:

If anything it's given Danny the excuse needed 'not' to play Charlie, and try other combinations out...

That said - get well soon Charlie!   :soapy tit wank:

Im not buying all this 'Danny needed an excuse not to play charlie' crap. If Danny didnt want to play Charlie he wouldnt.

I just think that Charlie is the first name on the team sheet, and quite rightly too.

Agreed!

But, this now gives us the chance to try something different up front that more than likely would never have happened if Austin had stayed fit.

Like i said before, Dossevi and Pericard may just be a winning formula.

Aren't you quintissentially agreeing with me there?  :hmmm:

I'm not trying to suggest Danny doesn't want to play Charlie, just that only an injury or a big drop in form would remove his name from the starting line up, and that this will give Danny a chance to test out his other striking partnerships.

No, because your suggesting that Danny wants to drop Chalie and i dont think he does.

Maybe i read it wrong.

According to a mate at work who knows Charlie, he said he'd just strap it up and play on but the docs won't let him.

Haha the 'non-league' player attitude where you play even if you're injured.....good man. The Premiership pansy's could learn a thing or two. Sounds like he won't be out that long though which can only be good news.

AF on the radio before the game said they have appointed the new physio and in the process of handing over from Dick Mackey. Apparently they are pleased with the appointment and hopefully he/she can get to work on Charlie straight away rather than the mess that was made with Barry Corr rushing back too early

2/3 weeks i heard.

And speaking of injuries, does anyone know why Charlie always plays with heavy strapping on his right wrist? At this rate he'll look like the curse of the mummy in a couple of seasons.

wanking injury

So how come the whole Town End isn't strapped up?

had a bit of a scrap in hungerford last winter. might be wearing out of superstition rather than protection now though

He really is a bit of a chav isn't he.

So is that what happened then? I heard he just had a drunken fall... ell oh ell.

Dossevi was taken off after 53mins and Ball is still on. Unless he is injured i assume that means he will start saturday.

Balls gone off now so fuck knows.