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Seems Capello won't be picking him again for England.Due to age and injury i can understand why but anyone else think it's a bit cuntish that a bloke with 115 caps for his country has to find out from a interview Capello did after tonights game that he won't be playing for England again.

I know and understand people don't like/rate the bloke but putting that aside it's not a very decent way to deal with it is it?

As i have said i have backed Capello but his man managment seems to be very poor when it comes to these types of things.

He didn't say he won't be picking him again, he said he won't be an england regular, as Capello wants to build a squad with younger players which is fair enough. Capello also stated that he hopes beckham will be fit enough to play one more game at wembely to say farewell to the fans, which is again a decent gesture and more than most england players would receive.

I like david beckham. He has made the odd foolish decision, and with the benefit of hindsight the MLS chapter clearly didn't work, but becks is obviosuly a man who loves playing for his country. He was never the most talented, but his work rate was something else

In view of the 115 caps and the fact he hasn't retired and wants to play on then it should have been face to face. I was a big fan of Capello's but it looks like man management is not his forte. I see we can all praise Gerrard now that the pressure is off.

Maybe Capello has already told Beckham this. I'm sure Beckham understands that younger players need experience before big competitions so they should get the call up from now on.

I think it was tonight Gerrard realised he does actually care about England - maybe that's because he was captain within his own country, but I doubt he's ever reacted to two goals as much as he did tonight.

Back to Beckham...when he's fit could we get him on loan?...I quite like the way he looked in a suit :gay:.

Capello is a bit like a broken record when it comes to Beckham.

At Real Madrid when Beckham signed for LA Galaxy he said he wouldn't play for them again, he did. When Beckham was at LA Galaxy he said something similar - that he wouldn't pick Beckham for England unless he proved he was still up to it (with the suggestion he didn't think he was), but he ended up picking him still and would have taken him to the WC as a player.

I think we'll be seeing Beckham picked for England again.

And he deserves to be seen again. He's the type of player all international players should be. Willing to play for the country until he can no longer play football. (Not retiring because you find not being picked for your country humiliating and damaging for your ego.)

Beckham still is the most influential player England has and actually brings some leadership to the pitch something we clearly lacked in south Africa. I am convinced he would have got everyone working together.  The term world class is used a lot but beckham truly is world class in every sense. The team and fans get a lift when beckham comes on. A player who has defied the odds and proved people wrong time and time again! A player who actually wears the England shirt with pride and would play for his country for free. Ok he us past his best but beckham is still class and we will be a weaker team with him excluded.

Did i miss us wnning a major competition when he was captain then.?

beckham has been passed it for a while now.doesn't excuse capello's awful man management, which was glaringly obvious by the way he didn't even speak to the squad players left out of the final world cup squad.

Awful awful awful man management by Crapello.....The man is an idiot in my opinion and has shown Beckham a total lack of disrepect.

After 115 caps and after giving it all for England he finds out his international career is over by watching it on tv??

Total joke.....Capello should have had the decency to tell him personally, This says something about Capello but then again i am not surprised as it shows yet again just how bad his management skills are!

i'd still chose him over half the team that went to the world cup.

as for capello, what an arss. in his interview he even said he doesn't know how to change the mindset of the players. this added to the beckham comment shows his man management skills are lacking big time.

get rid please

I think the media are blowing this way out of proportion to be honest.

If Capello had responded to the question by saying Beckham would never play for England again then I'd understand the furore, but all he did was answer a question honestly by saying that Beckham wasn't part of his plans for the euro qualifiers.

Yes, perhaps Capello should've spoke to Beckham about it beforehand - but it's not as if he knew that question was coming or was a proper cunt about it.

Did you mean respect ?

Can't help thinking that the media have since the Algeria game ramped up the anti regarding Capello, as whilst the result and performance last night (including the change in personel and playing direction) was acceptable the main headline remains Capellos (admittedly wrong) dealing of the Beckham situation.
Whilst Beckhams desire and efforts for his country over the years has been exemplorary he is not any longer at his peak and we really need to get over him and build for the Euros and future.
If the media really has a desire to whinge about something maybe they should consider what the negatives from last nights game were e.g. Rooneys continued recent lack of form for his country ?...then again Beckham sells papers etc !

I'm not sure how you can really criticise Rooney last night. He was isolated up front at times, and did a decent job of holding the ball up despite a desparing lack of support from the midfield. I think he'd have fared much better if he had been involved in the game when Gerrard was allowed to get forward, after Milner came on.

As for the Beckham thing... IF Capello has said nothing to him it is wrong. However, like everybody else on here, all I have to go on is media speculation - so I find it hard to draw any conclusions about what has happened and what that says about the character of the individuals involved.

It's not speculation though. He clearly said it himself i hear and saw him say it. He then went on to say he will speak to Beckham in the next couple of days,bit late really.

I like Beckham...one of a dying breed of footballer,always great towards the fans and managers he has plyed/worked for.
The gracious way he left Manchester under trying circumstances is something to be admired.
As for Cappello he is an old man in an ever increasing young mans game...the days of the pro footballer respecting a manager because of age and experience are long gone in my opinion.
Players at national level have lost the desire to play for England...Scholes,Carragher etc have shown this for a few years now...Beckham never lost that desire so even when he had a bad match for the team he never lacked in effort...not something you could say about many of our squad at the latest World Cup shambles.
Personally i would like to see maybe Beckham,Shearer or Pearce get the job as England manager...lets face it good experienced managers from abroad  have done Zilch! the last time i got exited by an England team was when the late great Bobby Robson a proud Englishmen had the job.

Wouldn't like to see either of those three get the England job, cos when it goes tits up and it usually does, they'll get slaughtered by the media and the fans, and they deffo don't deserve that as great football ambassadors for this country. Let's face it we don't have many

whole load of nothing really. Beckham said he would never retire from England, so while hes still playing theres always a chance Capello might call him up if there was ever a real emergency.

Its pretty obvious Beckham is too old for Euro 2012.

Media circus just blow anything Beckham all out of proportion.

Maybe one day, but they need club management experience first in my opinion.

Though Shearer might be worth a go, he could bore the opposition to death (I can't stand him as a pundit).

Did you mean ante?

Does it matter? I am sure you know what he meant.

Yes, it did. He was happy to correct somebody else.

I am going to pay for a Grammar Nazi course for you Dean  :)

Foy, isn't that in Cornwall?

 :clap:

Corrected. Damn mobile phone key pads.

Pearce and Shearer have both managed at club level.

Its spelt Fowey.

I know. It was a play on bad spelling :)


Not very successfully.

beckham or shearer, no fucking thank you.i'd take steve maclaren over that pair.
not sure about pearce.aint pulled up any trees but has a few more years experience under his belt now.
i actually think he will be the next england manager.

harry redknapp all the way for me if i could pick,and asap too.

Ha Ha ! I meant ante....ter !

Crapello is a cunt and surely after the WC and now this gaffe, public opinion in him is declining. His position really was untenable after the WC but ofcourse the FA cant afford to sack him so we are stuck with this clueless prick now. Clearly its the culture difference really and he cannot relate to the English really. It seems (if media reports are to be believed) that players dont wnat to play for him, fans dont really seem to want him anyway. 'Arry for England!

I don't think Redknapp can be considered until he's finally clear from all allegations of financial impropriety.

More likely is Martin O'Neill at the moment. Of course, two wins in the looming qualifiers will doubtless put a different spin on it.

Every time there is a thread on here about him, you come out with the same history revising "saint Becks" bullshit.

How does he bring leadership? I've seen loads of better captains in football, and frankly I think theres at least 2 or 3 more suitable candidates in the current England set up.

Did we win anything when he was captain or a key player? No. Did we win anything before or after? no did we even come close? No

As for the "wears his shirt with pride" nonsense - I've seen him play very well for England, and I've seen him be shit and ineffective. He usually tries hard. Same could be said of most England players How does that put him on a pedestal above most other players exactly? I dont recall seeing players not try playing for England very often- be shit yes, not trying - no.

Thing is I dont even have anything against him. He seems a reasonable bloke and was a very good player in his prime.  He's not world class now, and in my opinion never was. The sun does not shine out of his (well groomed) arse

Aye to that

We have had lots of good captains and won fuck all...dont mean they were poor players...and it is your opinion but in most peoples he was world class...on and off the field.
Anyone who wins the amount of caps he has deserves praise and to be honest with you having the grace to give him the plaudits he deserves dosn't mean that i think the sun shines out of his ass.

Leefer I didnt say beckham isnt still a decent player and in his prime was a very good player.

My issue is with Gazza claiming he would pretty much have sorted the entire world cup campaign out single handedly with his wonderous leadership skills.  I'm surprised he hasnt sorted the middle east out yet.

John Lyall for England Manager

Fact is Toddy we have a culture of knocking our best..a lot of it is down to the club issues in the fact that if you hate Man Utd you find fault in Beckham....was the same with Ronaldo(great player) and to a degree it is happening to Rooney who is a great player...thats not me saying they are great  that but other greats of the game...but what do they know eh.

The players 'Don't want to play for him'? Well boo fucking hoo, the pampered twats are playing for their country, it shouldn't matter who the manager is they should at least be able to show some desire and spirit.

Your post Gazza just further proves my theory that most football fans in this country have the memory of goldfish. I can't remember anyone saying fuck all about Capello's mastery (Or otherwise) of the English language when we cruised through the qualifiying campaign (And the players managed to overcome their dislike of him too).

As for Beckham. Everyone was saying Capello should turn to the youth. He basically says he doesn't think 35 year old Beckham has a future in an England shirt, but that's wrong as well!

I'm not sying the bloke is blameless, but to put all of England's woes at his doorstep is fucking ridiculous.

Scapegoat? In Pookesqe proportions. 

He's been brainwashed by the Sun. They've decided they don't like him so the thick as shit readers have now decided that is their opinion too.

Basically, Capello was wrong for not turning to the younger players. He's also wrong for now not wanting to pick a 35 year old way paste his prime plying his trade at a level that makes the SPL look decent. He can't win.

I love Beckham, don't get me wrong. For my generation he is an absolute hero and he's done so much for this country HOWEVER Capello is the fucking manager. If he decides he doesn't want to pick him that's his decision! People loved his no nonsense, straight talking approach before but now all of a sudden the fickle cunts that are the football fans in this country have decided that it doesn't work anymore.

Funny how Capello was the saviour not so long ago. Good manager and should stay in charge, made a good move by putting his faith in the youth of the country.

God I hate everyone.

I like Beckham but he's too old for England and has been for some time. I don't get this hero worship though. Sure, he's given us some good moments and won a load of caps but he's also sold any credibility he's had to the highest bidder. Always been the way.

But he should be a great example to Rooney, how to go from zero to 'hero'.

His last  dozen or so caps have been gifts from the F.A. dont forget.

What about Hoddle and El Tel.

Both are great managers.

Oh.....