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Purely hypothetical question but how would we all feel if our club were to offer this guy a contract ?

I personally would not want him anywhere near our club even though we could do with a striker, some people deserve a second chance but this guy has had 8 previous offences and is a registered sex offender which is not someone I would want my kids looking up to or having their name on the back of a shirt. Discuss.

Aidy Boothroyd has said he's prepared to help him when he's out at Coventry.

I agree i wouldn't want him here, much in the same way as Lee Hughes. He commited a crime and was convicted and sentenced for it. In any other job, a criminal record would hold you back, and potentially thwart your chances of getting that job. Why should he be able to walk straight back into a significantly well-paid job, just because he's "done his time"?

Are we interested in him then?

And it still will hold him back in getting those jobs it just happens that it won't in football. Couldn't give a fuck what he does to be honest but when you see on other forums and the papers wanting to ban him from football it's a joke.

Marlon King has several convictions and has never learnt his lesson. He's likely to get himself into trouble again and cause problems for the team he plays for and potentially discredit them.

Hughes has served his time and his conviction doesn't affect his ability to do his job.

It's the employers' decision anyway.

Besides, Pericard went to jail and nobody seems to give a shit about that.

So, he committed a crime, was sentenced and served his time but he's not allowed to get a job then?? The bloke's clearly a talented footballer, an industry that happens to be well paid. I'd rather he was out earning than being sat at home having everything paid for by us taxpayers, wouldn't you?

If he hasn't learnt his lesson he'll go back to the slammer but surely if he's changed his ways he deserves to go back to work, right??

I'm not saying I particularly agree or disagree with you btw, just trying to look at things with more of an open mind.

Spot on. He's a scrote, he'll always be a scrote, don't want to see him here.
Bit of a difference in the offences though, Si. Pericard was very stupid, King is a serial scumbag

I can see Si's point.

I'm not trying to defend him at all, but people don't like King because his wrong doings were overly publicised by the media.

There are other "serial scumbags" still playing the game but without any media publicity or criminal convictions, that don't get treated the same way as King purely because their wrong doings aren't public knowledge.

What has he done?

King beat up a woman, he sounds a right cunt.

Not much chance of him coming here after Vincent & Williams release for similar, less serious offences.

Anyone saying he should be banned from football is deluded though.

Groped then punched a women and broke her nose. For which he did 9 months out of 18.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/6461686/Footballer-Marlon-King-jailed-for-groping-woman-and-breaking-her-nose.html

But it was no isolated incident. As the article states.

I wouldn't want him anywhere near our club. Even if you subscribe to the "he's done his time the slate is clean" line (I don't) you have to admit the chances of disruption somewhere down the line are high.

I dont think anyone is rerally saying his slate is clean, its just that you cant stop him from working in football. Eventually someone is going to give him a contract. It may have been a more isolated incident but what Lee Hughes did was much, much worse.

Does that mean he cant hold the mascots hand when they walk out onto the pitch?! :D

I don't disagree. I just wouldn't want him at my club.

I listened to the interview with his agent on talksport this morning Marlon needs to find a job i agree however if we are stating we are a family club do we want him at Swindon you can not compare crimes ie Lee Hughes however King has been covicted on 9 occassions
I would say no and i do not think AF would take the risk

if he scores goals and gets us promoted. Yes.

King is a far worse character than Hughes. Hughes made one mistake, albeit one of extremely more significant magnitude.

King's really a nasty piece of work. I know the media hype things up but read a few articles and you will see he has something like a dozen convictions.

I wouldn't want either at the club but I don't think the FA/Football League should pass moral judgement because it would set a dangerous precedent e.g. you'd get someone like Pericard who'd been a bit stupid not being allowed to play.

Sorry mate, but that is a shit attitude. Some things are more important than football.

Where do you draw the line? Convicted peadophile?

I wouldn't want Marlon King anywhere near the CG.

A nasty piece of work from all accounts...and he also played for the pikey's also.

As a person I agree an absolute cunt, but I think in football we have learned all cons murderers (Lee Hughes), Pedo's (Graham Rix), Stabbings (Ryan Crockford) etc. ( all get a second chance regardless how serious the crime, so it makes no differnce what you think so I ignored that part and just answered the question really, if he could do a job yes. If not no. As a person though cunt.

Pretty much the only pro I would boo as he walks out to make his town debut (maybe Joey B if he makes a come back).

Absolute scum and I hope he's knee capped within 10mins of joining a new club

a consistent scumbag, offence after offence fromt his guy.
now sexual assault do you really want his victim to see his smug face celebrating scoring a goal in a swindon top? id think not.

somebody will sign him and prove that football has no morals

Neither do I!

More importantly than whether we would want him or not is if AF would want him.

The answer to that is almost certainly no, AF has given this club a positive reputation for time in years and he would risk that by bringing in Marlon King.

It's fair he's given a chance in his line of work if he's capable. That doesn't mean you need to like him.

agreed we have come 2nd for the family club of the year as well as being highly commended. Brining him in would take away all that good work.

Was Hughes guilty of murder? And ex oxford or not Rix wasn't really a peado was he.

I wouldn't have a problem with Lee Hughes coming here. He did something really fucking stupid for which he did his time but more importantly it appears he is a reformed character - everyone deserves a second chance and he is making the most of his and doing the right things.

Marlon King on the other hand is a piece of fucking scum, who has committed a string of crimes and has shown little to no remorse. Even when he was banged to rights for attacking that woman (for which he got 18 months) with a long line of witnesses saying they saw him do it he claimed it was mistaken identity. As its not possible to ban scum like him from playing football, you just hope that all the chairman across the country will do the right thing and tell him to fuck off.

Difference is he didnt kill or didnt rape....big difference in my eyes.
Fraud isnt good but you cant compare,...dont even try.

Marlon King is a grade A cunt.

Only a desperate, wanker of a manager is going to risk signing him. Even if one exists, imagine the reception he's going to get from fellow players in the dressing room - his victims are all someones sister, daughter or girlfriend - let alone the reaction from supporters when he appears in public.

Franchise might want him, or maybe Millwall. Cant see anyone else touching the cunt.

I threw the Pericard thing in there mainly because it doesn't get a mention as he was just a silly cunt but didn't really cause anyone any harm.

I remember the calls for Nicho and Pook to get sacked when they got done for drink driving, although as this happened whilst they were at the club arguably it would tarnish the club's reputation. But it just goes to show that our own moral boundaries are far from blurred.

Malpas wants him up north :D

Seriously wouldn't want that fucktard around our club.

I think you mean they are blurred, actually :) But again for me, those are examples of stupidity, whereas King is reprehensible, beyond the pale. I look at it this way - when one of our players scores, I want to celebrate, to sing the player's name, to celebrate him. I can imagine myself doing that with Pook, Pericard et al. I can't imagine myself ever wanting to congratulate Marlon King for anything. I don't expect to be able to identify with our players, or even necessarily like them, but I'd really rather we didn't sign a player I find so repugnant I find myself unable to cheer on. And I'd have a major problem personally with my hard-earned going to pay the wages of "Don't you know who I am? I'm a millionaire" Marlon fucking King

Spot on.  Same reason I was glad the Jets didn't sign Michael Vick.

Who?

apparently coventry are keen to sign him. he'd feel at home here

Having listened to his agent on 5 live it appears despite being convicted he is still denying having commited the crime he went to jail for.Sounds a bit of a cunt to me ,if he came here id be very dissappointed.

NFL stuff.  He did time for being involved in dog fighting.

They had an interview on SSN earlier. He's appealing the conviction saying it was unjust.

What a cunt.

No surprise that he went to the Philthy Eagles though.

As for Marlon King, don't want the fucker anywhere near the CG.
Would like to think that all other teams/fans think the same way, but some bunch will probably sign the cunt.

Looks like Lucas off Eastender and he's in jail now.

No club should give him another chance
both him and lee Hughes should never play football again professionally

And should spend the rest of their days on the dole?

It's a tricky one, they have to be allowed to earn a living, I just don't want them at my club.

king was on sky this morning saying how he knows hes going to get abuse from fans, and he just wants to be able to get on with his life ect ect

maybe he should consider  :suicide:

As much as I don't want him playing for my club - this is not for the fans or the FA to decide.  He has been through the justice system and is now allowed to seek employment - be that in football or not.  If we don't let people work after offending and serving their sentence, we are saying that our justice system does not rehabilitate, or in other words - it doesn't work. 

I think your last 3 words sum it up rather well.

I see he's still in denial :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-10890109

did you see it happen then did you?

Doubt he did but the several eyewitnesses they mention in the article did and were one of the reasons he was convicted.

No, but he's been convicted after a pile of witnesses said it was him, as stfctownenda has said.

soapy tit wank doesnt make a differance all the people there could have known her an the football coach mght of had a grudge.

im not defending him or anything he was a cunt before all this happened.

ive been charged for assault before in town when it wasnt me and i had witnesses to say i never did it but all that mattered was what the po pos thought.

Po pos?

Ok blud! :doh:

COVENTRY City fans last night gave manager Aidy Boothroyd their seal of approval if he tries to sign shamed striker Marlon King.

A show of hands at a 200-strong fans’ forum at the Ricoh Arena showed roughly a 75/25 split in favour of the controversial player.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2010/08/05/coventry-city-fans-back-aidy-boothroyd-over-marlon-king-92746-27002920/

No accounting for taste then

Watched his interview that featured on Five Live earlier. Case of mistaken identity he thinks! Yeh, and the litany of similiar previous offences supports that defence Marlon??? However, someone will take the plunge on this scrote and I believe he'd score shedloads in the mentality of 'everyone's against me' a la Mr Hughes at Notts County.

Having previous can hardly be counted as proof that he did it. Numerous eye witness accounts from people who know him however...

No, no, no, no, no. Thank you.

he is a cunt of the highest order and should be treated as such

He was in the stands at the Ricoh Arena today, guess it's only a matter of time before he joins Coventry

yep, the worst bit is that adie bothroyd said that marlon kings family had suffered through this ordeal! but never mentioned the girl that he punched in the face

They are getting a bit desperate. Attendances are dive bombing in that piece of crap out of town ground theyve got now.

A bit like the football that Boothroyd's sides play. I watched 5 minutes of it yesterday, and all they were doing is playing hoofball. Very entertaining...not !!!

Couldnt agree terms with Coventry, coming for talks this morning to replace Austin.

You heard it here first ;)

See he's signed a contract with Coventry.

From a quick Google, it seems the Coventry fans are happy with the signing. I'd be asking for a refund on my season ticket.

In case I haven't said it before, King is a complete and utter cunt and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a football pitch let alone be getting paid for it.

Looking at that tw*t Hughes' stupid goal celebrations from Saturday was jarring - but they've served their time, so let them get on with their lives.

Think Hughes's was a one time act of sheer stupidity, while King on the other hand seems to make a habit of it

Decent striker though.

What did he do again, hitting lots of women wasn't it?

If he's served a sentence (has he? was he convicted?) then there are many that would say he should be allowed to continue employment as before. Why shouldn't he be allowed?

Everyone fucks up and deserves a second chance, provided they do their time and put their hand up for their crimes and preferably change their ways pretty fucking quickly. King has 14 criminal offences, 2 of which resulted in him being locked up. So he's more than blown his chances, has shown fuck all remorse for his crimes (and is still denying it was him) and is still as big a cunt as ever.

I'm not saying he should be banned. I just find it amazing that any club (or their fans) would want a piece of fucking scum like that playing for them. Just shows how desperate some people can be.

The thing is, if he scores goals, and gets them promoted who's the loser then?

I'm not justifying what he has or has not done, but football fans are fickle. If he performs then the fans will love him.

umm, actually, in the real world, an ex convict would find it pretty difficult to get employment in such a high earning role.  Even shop work would be difficult given the pre checks done these days.

I hope he and Hughes have football career ending injuries.  I'm not saying their time being gainfully employed as cleaners should be impaired though.

Just goes to show footballers can get away with anything.

Any normal person who had that sort of criminal record aired by the media in public would have no chance of getting a job with a reputable company.

Some will Sippo.............many wont.
In fact every time i see Hughes doing that fukin inbred dance at Notts County when he scores i want to smash him.

On the subject of Coventry why the fuck did Coyle allow Ward to go to Coventry and play central midfield in a team that may aswell have no midfield whatsoever.

Boothroyd played him up front last game but he got injured

Ah right he played midfield first game.

did hughes knock down and kill someone :hmmm:

Started wide right then moved into the middle. I had the same thought as you when I read it.

No he crashed into another vehicle and killed someone. Then did a runner because he was probably over the limit. He turned himself in a day later.

Me too

But what if he is scoring goals and helping your team gain promotion? Would you want to smash him then?

Hypothetical...........we got a board here now who wouldn't allow such a thing to happen.
Everyone deserves a second chance or in my case three or four....but some crimes in my view can't be forgiven so easily...i would find it hard to celebrate a goal he scored.but i understand your point and many would disagree with me.

Where are you drawing your line though. Does one rape equal ten drug charges?

Football and morality probably shouldn't mix if they can help it. Leave it down to the law and everything else is equal.


What is your point?

My point is that footballers actually get a strangely easy time of it once they have paid their dues.  Most people with a conviction and some time inside behind them will find it takes years to build their careers back up, if they ever manage it at all.  I'm all for treating Marlon and Lee the same way as everyone else who makes such "mistakes" or gets caught - i.e make it tough for them or sort out every other company in the UK that chooses to make it difficult.

FWIW, I think Hughes is just as bad, and served way too little time.  I therefore find it even more repugnant that he can walk back in at the same sort of level as before the conviction (any level of league football is more than the majority would be able to manage in our own professions).

All hypothetical, but if he scored the winning goal in getting the team promotion I'm sure you would celebrate.

It's repugnant, but it's supply and demand. The temptation to get some damaged goods at a cut price is too much for lots of clubs. It's like the supermarket aisle full of nearly-off meat and dented tins. A rapist who can get 20 goals a season can still get 20 goals a season. Only the FA could do anything about it, but as anyone who has seen the "extra-curricular activities" on the CVs of most England players knows, they're not likely to do anything at all.

Personally I would like us to get Notts County in the FA Cup (2nd round after knocking the scum out in the first) and then Coventry in the 3rd so I can use the medium of the football supporter to release my vitriol towards these two bastards and in turn enjoy the therapeutic results for myself ! That's fair isn't it ? They earn their money (- bonuses for getting beat by the Town) and I call them cunts for being..........cunts !

Footballers have a lot of media attention, you could have worked with someone who slapped someone around in the past and you wouldn't know any better.

BUMP.

Or whatever it is you're supposed to do

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11963888

The caption for the picture amused me in its factual bluntness.

:D
They've got no hope of getting that to scan properly for a chant

So hang on, the stupid cunt smacks a woman because she doesn't know who he is and then gets a real fuck on when loads of other people do know who he is when he is smacking her. He's an ungrateful cunt, isn't he.