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Swindon bid to bring back Obadeyi

Swindon Town are seeking a loan deal for Bolton youngster Tope Obadeyi, BBC Wiltshire understands.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/8844779.stm

danny ward please

Sweet Jesus. Was DW pissed up last night or something?

Tope's really not very good.

Reading that article he scored 1 in 11 at one of the best sides in league 2 last season. hmmmmmmm

Bloody Wilson!  Thats it now, I aint going again!

Seriously though I would have thought that we would be looking to bring in a better standard of player than Tope who I thought last season was utter shit.

His goal against Southend at the CG though will always make me laugh.

Bit baffleing on his past performances really

Surely he's just looking to make up the numbers. I think we will start with Austin/Perricard/Ball as the main 3.

Lets hope the big man does a Paynter and comes good.

This reminded me - my boyfriend likened my to Ben Hutchinson the other day!! I cant remember what context it was in though!!

Please no.

Do you look like him, perhaps?

[understatement] I wasn't very impressed with him [/understatement], but he looked a better winger than a striker, so maybe an option on the left?

Its the football analagy of a sack of spuds.

;)

I could see Ball playing left wing in the Danny ward role.

Even if its for backup, there must surely be better young strikers out there who are available for loan than Tope.

I'm mystified by this, I really am.

Gotta be bollocks, surely??

Thanks, but no thanks.

about Hutchinson yes !but Obadeyi - it seems not?

How about Frank Nouble....Oh.

Maybe it's BOGOF with Danny Ward?

I'd just take Ward, and leave Tope on the shelf.

Danny Ward of that greedy little shit any day.

What?

I've  just noticed danny ward is a first team member on this seasons fantasy football so it looks like he will get his chance at bolton this season.

Im seem to remember he didnt know how to pass?

I think it's the of instead of over that has caused the confusion.

This is clearly a smokescreen for the fact that Ward is coming back.  :hmmm: There's no other reason we'd be linked with Tope again.

No, it's the BBC being fooled by the fact that we are after Danny and he and Tope look so alike, as well as spelling their names with exactly the same letters. Simple enough mistake to make really.

I didnt think he was as bad as everyone else did.

I thought in most cases, he looked ok but with suspect/delayed final decision. Which may come with games.

Having said that  - to go one better than last season, we need players who are ready now and will do a job from the off. Whilst young loan players can be hit or miss we need players like Ward, Ferry and Darby who can come straight into our first team.

Thats a hell of a tan Wardy picked up on holiday

Tope? No thanks. I think this may well be a first bad decision from DW, going back for a striker that was shit for us and shit for another team on loan too.

This calls for a poll: Tope or not Tope.

Tope was not as bad as people make out.He played most games out wide for us,Wilson showed last year that if players dont perform on loan or not he will drop them so i don't see the problem.

If it's true anyway.

Tope can in no way be put in the same bracket at Hutchinson.

Tope had pace, a bit of ball control, not the best finisher but nearly always tried.

Hes a year older and may be a year wiser for the experience, might well make a good left wing backup/striker backup, impact sub, lets face it his strike rate of 2 goals in 12 games is the same as Paynter was at the start of last season. ;)

I thought Tope was good. He was also played out of position. When he was upfront I thought he looked very dangerous.

Also, didn't we take Tope last season as part of the agreement for Ward? I'm sure someone, perhaps DW, said that we were allowed Ward off of the back of taking Tope on loan for a period, or something like that. I am prone to making stuff up by the way.

Yeah he did say that he originally wanted ward, but got Tope instead (got mugged over there) but as a result of tope's positive feedback from his loan we were allowed Ward.  or something like that anyway

He could be equally shit and equally good in the blink of an eye. But he just ran forward without any idea what he was doing or was going to do, caused defences problems and we created chances because of him. He has a lot to learn but he'd be a fairly decent option for us and a bit different to most of our other players.

I think I'd prefer to see him on the wing if O'Brien isn't fit enough to play.

I'd prefer to see him in boltons Reserves.

For quick and direct, read he just ran forward without any idea what he was doing or was going to do.

My personal feeling is that this is to try and keep Bolton sweet and keep us in their heads in case Ward isn't in their team come November-December time.

That said, Tope wasn't that bad. Not half the player Ward was, but he is cursed with being referred to and thought of "Tope Odebayi and Ben Hutchinson" when he was far better than Hutch. As backup, or on the wing, he could do a job I'm sure.

At this level athletic players can be pretty good even if they don't have the best touch or skill.

But you can't have a complete winger:

McGovern - Not really a winger, great at what he does but he rarely runs at players.
O'Brien - Quick and can really run at players, or with the ball off the pitch. When he's fit enough to play.
McNamee - A little box of tricks. Could beat players for fun. Was too focussed on beating players that he never tracked  back and missed good crossing opportunities.
Ward - Not really a winger but played great there. The pick of this bunch I've listed (as a winger). Only criticism was that he could be a little too selfish but that's just a minor grievance.
Robson-Kanu - Quick and direct, sorry I mean ran forward without any idea what he was doing or was going to do.
Macklin - Couldn't break into the team and show us if he was any good.

Out of all these players Ward is the only stand out. But that's just because he was so class. I'm beginning to think the likes of Gary Stanley & Co are a bunch of spoilt kids.

To be fair, I thought Tope was the least shit of the strikers we had on loan last season (excluding Ward as he played on the wing) so if we're going to have one of them again I'm glad it's him. As Nemo said, I reckon part of it is to do Bolton a favour and get him some games so we're in their good books if they want to loan Ward out again.

Tope was alright but nothing amazing.

Tope was OK - but if he is coming back I hope he has learned the offside rule.

The fact the Tope was only 'ok' for us may be the very reason Wilson wants him. You need to have squad players who aren't going to be knocking on the manager's door every time they're not in the starting XI. This is obviously why DW offered new deals to Timlin and Easton.

I agree...but we saw the problems of not having substitutes who are 'good enough' when needed, when Douglas got injured.....we need at least one 2nd choice in each 'zone' of the field who really is pushing for inclusion.  I don't know which category Obadeyi fits into because I only have others' judgements to go on, but I would worry at this stage if DW was bringing in people who would not be pressing for a regular place.

I agree that theres no such thing as a complete winger at our level, beacuse McGovern wouldnt be playing in league 1 if he had pace. Even Ricky Shakes would have been a good player if he could beat a man and cross.

But that doent mean Tope is any good. And to compare him to HRK is well wide of the mark in my opinion- HRK is a much better player.

Look, I may get shot down for this, but reckon Tope was close to being a good player.  The only thing he lacked was the final ball (whether it be shot, pass, cross, whatever).  Now clearly this is very important, but if he's got that sorted, his build up play was very good (certainly at the end of his loan spell), he could be useful for us.  Don't write him off yet.

For the record I also think Pericard will come good.

donkey never has a truer post been written.

Plus due to his name you can sing an awesome version of he gets the ball, he scores a goal to the tune of 'Days' by The Kinks.

Thanks Mex.  I really expected to be shot down on this.

*bang* *bang*

There you go Donkey, you're dead.

Good enough?

Oh shit! I've been shot. Would everyone stop getting shot?

Yes, cough, splutter...dead...