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Title: Brian Clough: In his own words Post by: shady on Sunday, June 6, 2010, 19:54:17 For anyone who missed it the other day:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/brian-clough-in-his-own-words/4od#2917629 Title: Re: Brian Clough: In his own words Post by: oxford_fan on Monday, June 7, 2010, 00:10:09 good stuff. i don't know if i would think differently about him if i were old enough to have been following football when he was managing, but i love seeing programmes about him and the damned united was an excellent film.
only a small handful of modern managers like mccarthy and strachan seem to possess anything near the dry wit that he had. my favourite manager around though, and the most similar of the lot to clough in terms of his arrogance, self belief, comedy, and ability, is mourinho. Title: Re: Brian Clough: In his own words Post by: shady on Monday, June 7, 2010, 00:34:01 Agreed Oxford fan, Mourinho is a man oozing in charsima, but I do have this underlying sense that he's not being totally sincere, almost like he's been labelled with this renegade tag and he's run with it, perhaps a little too far to be credible. I only really got to learn about Clough in recent years and i'm fascinated by him. By chance I was in Nottingham the day he died and the place was in deep mourning. Even Derby County fans laying scarfs at the City Ground, sure I sure a Swindon scarf there too.
Title: Re: Brian Clough: In his own words Post by: jonny72 on Monday, June 7, 2010, 00:57:16 By chance I was in Nottingham the day he died and the place was in deep mourning. Even Derby County fans laying scarfs at the City Ground, sure I sure a Swindon scarf there too. If you'd been in Derby you'd have seen the same level of mourning as he was worshipped there as well - he won the league title and got to the European Cup semis whilst he was their manager. I guess he retired to Derby as that was where he died and his family seems to have viewed it as home, Nigel Clough said something along the lines of it felt like he was going back home when he took over the managers job there. Title: Re: Brian Clough: In his own words Post by: ghanimah on Monday, June 7, 2010, 07:50:49 my favourite manager around though, and the most similar of the lot to clough in terms of his arrogance, self belief, comedy, and ability, is mourinho. Cloughie once said of Mourinho: "I like Mourinho, he reminds me of myself only not as good looking". Class Title: Re: Brian Clough: In his own words Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 7, 2010, 08:00:44 Should have been England manager back in 74 and again in 77 but fell out with too many people at the FA, top bloke.
Title: Re: Brian Clough: In his own words Post by: ghost_of_noble on Monday, June 7, 2010, 15:06:16 I agree Cloughie was an enigma,I saw the film "Damned United"and read the book both excellent if not entirely true.Cloughies wife was not happy with with either,so she asked Don Shaw who formed "The Movement"for the reinstatement of Cloughie when he resigned/was sacked from Derby.I have just finished reading it and thoroughly enjoyed it.The book is called"CLOUGHS WAR" and is a real eye-opener.I can also recommend another book about him called"PROVIDED YOU DONT KISS ME" by Duncan Hamilton the local reporter who had access to Cloughie when no one else did. GOOD READING---G.O.N.
Title: Re: Brian Clough: In his own words Post by: shady on Monday, June 7, 2010, 19:01:41 Cheers. I'll have a look out for those books next time i'm down the library. He's someone who fascinates me.
Title: Re: Brian Clough: In his own words Post by: purtonred on Monday, June 7, 2010, 22:56:32 I loved the Damned United. Best thing Tony Blair ever did. Was still confused when it wasnt about Forest though !
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