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From the horses mouth on Sunday night. "I'm having my last ever night in Swindon, it's been fun"

Then he preceded to get his phone out to try and ring Paul Hartley. Strange.

I can't make my mind up if that's a good thing or not,although he's been superb for us i would like to see a more attacking midfielder,We dont score enough goals from midfield..

going to Bristol City apparently!

shame as i would like to see him here next season.

That would explain him trying to ring Paul Hartley... hmmm

Reckon he wouldve been superb next year, having settled in properly.

Shit news.

Is the City move another loan or permanent deal?

it's all speculation at the moment.

anything could happen. It would be foolish of us to not atleast bid for ferry and see what happens then. He has stated several times he wants to sign

Coppell came out and said he wouldn't be making any decisions on player until July when he has seen the current squad at close quarters. Ferry has stated regularly he would love to stay in the press... seems strange that he would suddenly backtrack. :hmmm:

Would love to see him stay- but he is not irreplaceable.

Would like to see more goals from midfield next season.

Unfortunately, us remaining in league 1 makes it inevitable that we would struggle to hold onto our loanees- so will just have to unearth some new ones.

good player. hope its not true.

still we may get a brick shit house goalscoring ballplayer from man city instead

If he doesn't want to stay, he doesn't want to stay. Life moves on.

He has been good but the stand out problem for me this season has been not enough goals from midfield (Ward helped at the end) so i'd like Ferry in my squad but not as a first teamer. We need either somebody who can get goals and shoot from distance, or another destroyer and allow douglas to move further forward.

He is also too lightweight which is a problem.  He got pushed all around the Wembley pitch on Sat.

Doesn't change the fact that I would love him to sign, but it is a problem.

He's too lightweight, which is ironic as he always looks a bit chunky.

the whole team were pushed around Wembley on Saturday. We were second to everything

When we are dominant he's a great asset but against Millwall who press and niggle and go in hard, he isn't the type of midfielder we need. Everytime Ferry got the ball Trotter was all over him, like a soggy tracksuit.

we should do everything we can to sign him.

if it means pushing the boat out re: transfer fee and wages - then do it.

tidy little player with a great attitude and always put a shift in for the team.that said he was often found out, and struggled at times physically as his size was against him.
not too bothered if we get him or not really

Surely only if we can afford to.  I'm not sure we want to overstretch ourselves for a player - we've been down that road before, and I don't think it ended too well.

I thought that was implied without me having to type it out.

um no it wasn't dave. you said to push the boat out and do all we can to sign him. never mentioned doing it within our budget

Yeah Dave.

Ok, we should push the boat out realistically and without our means

pedantic cunts

Its fucking obvious.

I wouldnt want to over spend and go down shit creek again would I?

Then why did you say we should Dave?

yeah dave

I didnt

you did

I think you did:


Yep, there it is.

pair of idiots.

we should not push the boat out on a player who often cannot cope.if he's available cheap,and doesn't have stupid wage demands then yes,sign him.otherwise look elsewhere.

Dave, Billy, MR... :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Its implied, rather obviously.

I wouldnt want us to put ourselves in the shit financialy again, to stop this happening again I will spell out everything in my posts just to make sure.

Nah, in truth I hope we pay £6million for him, offer him 120k a week, go bust and die. I hope it happens I really do - thats exactly what I meant. Die, Swindon die...

In case you didnt fully understand that last paragraph I was being sarcastic.

On the off chance, you are unfamiliar with the term sarcasm.

sar·casm   [sahr-kaz-uhm]  Show IPA
–noun
1.
harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2.
a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.

Origin:
1570–80; < LL sarcasmus < Gk sarkasmós, deriv. of sarkázein to rend (flesh), sneer; see sarco-

—Related forms
su·per·sar·casm, noun

—Synonyms
1. sardonicism, bitterness, ridicule. See irony1. 2. jeer.

I knew Dave secretly hated the club - unless he was being cleverly sarcastic.

I hate everything.

ha ha dave you're so funny and witty i wish i could be you.

backtrack verb ( CHANGE OPINION )
to say that you did not mean something you said earlier or say that you have changed your opinion

I havent back tracked. I think we should sign him - if that means pushing the boat out (WITHIN REASON) then we should as he is quality, young player who will only get better.

Why on earth would I want us to over spend, really?

dave.what do you consider the max we should be talking for ferry with regard to a fee,wages?

he said £6million earlier

to be honest, I have no idea as its all relative as to what others at the club earn. Like most I heard the odd rumour about who is paid what - but at the end of the day its just rumour.

If he isnt wanted at Celtic I would have thought 200-250k would be enough to get (think he signed a new contract recently) if there are other teams interested (AND WE HAVE THE AVAILABLE MONEY) then I think we should go up to around 400k.

I wouldnt have him as our highest paid player, Cuthbert came in last year as a relative unknown from Scottish football, similiar to Ferry so maybe close to what he's on now maybe?

Again, if we have competition - then offer him a bit more (WITHIN REASON AND WITHIN THE BUDGET) if that is what it takes to 'win' him.

He's only young and at the end of the day, its *hopefully* an investment. That was Ferrys first full season of first team football and I think he did a good job for us. He *should* only get better and increase in value, get him on a 2 year contract and we might be able to make a profit on him next season, then re-invest.

Clearly some people didnt pick up on, but I wouldnt want us to go over the top and cripple the club and use all of our transfer/wage budget on one play but think its probably worth spending an extra 150-200k if that what we need to outbid the others and get our man.

Say we didnt sign him, we'd still need another midfield, of equal or better quality which would still cost anyway. Say we picked up another Douglas, older experience pro on a free we'd probably have to pay them more wages than we would Ferry anyway.

Southampton, Huddersfield and Brighton will spend this summer - so will a few others.

The players, manager and board have set their bar and they have set it higher, we have to at least match it next season, better yet better it - to do that we will have to spend and spend more than we did last summer.

i think Fitton realises this. their aim for this year was the playoffs so next season has to be the same again if not more (automatic) but to achieve this we must invest in the squad.

Paynter is going and can only assume Ward, Ferry, Sheehan, Darby and possibly Timlin, Easton, JFL (all out of contract).

This would leave our squad quite thin but then again we shifted 13 dead wood players last season and Willson brought in decent signings so i'm confident he'll do so again and i believe Fitten will back him up.

i just hope our budget is big enough to make us compete at the top

200-250k is a lot of money these days, especially to us. Good as he is I don't think we'd spend an extra 100-200K on top.

I don't think we could afford/justify that much. We'd go for a cheaper/loan option.

Just my twopenneth like.

i knew what you meant in your earlier posts about streching the budget a bit.in ferrys case i dont agree.personally, i wouldn't pay more than 100k for him.remember the amount of games where he was subbed,or was totally ineffective.there were plenty of them.
he had some fine games for us too and i do like him,and want him here.i just dont think he is key.400k on a player would be better spent elsewhere i think

Maybe, but if we want to challenge (i'd like to think we would) we'll have to spend.

I'm no expert and I know we operated at a loss last season but surely we made a fair whack off the play offs?

Somebody said 500K from the playoffs, but I thought it was less than that.

Problem is last AGM I went to we were £3M short for the year. Not sure if this has improved or not in the last season but you get the idea.

I guess the thing to think about w/r/t Ferry is that Wilson was able to bring him in on loan. If he is able to get someone of that quality on loan, why not do it again? The place we possibly need to spend on is at the back and on the wing.

Do people keep forgetting that we are more than likely to be getting 5 loan players in for next season again?  Man City, Liverpool and Celtic are all now signed up on the proviso of us getting loanees from them and we've made it quite public that we will use that as a method of getting a squad together each year.  Rather than have 22 full time, we have 17 of ours and 5 of theirs.  So, whatever our squad is right now, add 5 to it (like we have had for most of this season).  If you get 2 or 3 in the mould of Ward and Ferry, we should do quite well out of it.

The only risk with that is for every Ward and Ferry there is a Hutch and a Toppy!

Risk or not, it's going to be the way we develop our squad for the next couple of years.

very true

And also, you don't always get the level of stability that a team might need, particularly if players are only here for a month or two.

Agree with this.

Did you used to play for the Chicago Bears?

Nah. The user name's a nod to Mr Calderwood rather than Mr Perry.

Although I am piling on the pounds like a defensive lineman this year.

Anyone above us Ferry, anyone but Bristol City please!

No! I hope this isn't true. Bristol fucking City? You're better than that Simon. Shocking. Our squad is going to fall apart isn't it?

Ferry has been saying for a while though he wants to stay with us no matter what league we are in.i don t think its true

Loan players returning to their parent clubs and one player leaving for the league above does not constitute a squad falling apart.

As things stand, we have Lucas, Greer, Amankwaah, Cuthbert, Douglas, JPM and Austin still here next season. That's 7 important players staying. I'm fairly confident in saying we'll sign a striker and a left back in good time, leaving CM and LM open. Wilson might sign players in these positions, or use the loan market to fill the gaps. On top of that, Easton is far from terrible and I still think there's more to come from O'Brien.

If it is true that he's played his last game, I would like us to try and get Nicky Bailey from Charlton. Great attacking midfielder who will get goals and a bit of attitide (of the positive kind) as well. They are in the shit financially and I am sure they would listen to offers. And it would be a fantastic statement of intent from our Board.

... Yup, the Charlton captain who has supported Athletic since he was a kid would be a mental signing!

Ferry did say if he was to leave Celtic the only team he would want to sign for is us, No matter what league we were in so i can't see that being true.

As for Bailey don't think he will come here, If we had gone up then yes i think some Championship teams will go in for him.

I suspect you're right. As I like to say though....'Never say never' :hmmm:

Yes because a footballer has never, ever, gone back on his word.

Well he has spouted the "I want to stay at Swindon" shit several times over, If he wants to go elsewhere then fuck him, Another money grabbing cunt like Theo Robinson.

So did Tommy cunting M££ney.

I wouldn't blame him for wanting to play for a club in a higher division who'll pay him more than we can offer him.

Yes, I'd be disappointed after some of the comments he's made to the press about wanting to stay, but I certainly won't be calling him a "money grabbing cunt" as you so eloquently put it.

Bit of perspective, Ferry isn't our player. Other teams may be offering more to talk to him, not his fault is it?

he definatly is one for the future but like people have said hes lightwight and doesnt score alot but still without him we wudnt of been were we was at the end of the season.

id like to see him stay but i dont think he will

pride_of_wilts, did you used to post on here under a different name?

Yes.... Cunt

Yes. I want to say One Andrew Fitton (OAF)

That's exactly who I was thinking of Dave. Glad it wasn't just me who noticed the same wild overreactions.

Yep but you've got to think that he's responding to questions. So, if a journo says to him: "So Simon, you're enjoying it down here, what if the clubs came to an agreement, would you consider staying longer term?"

Firstly, how do you think he'd respond. Secondly, how do you think you could write up that response?

i'd like ferry in our team for next year, i'm mortified that timlin has been offered a contract though.

Sob... I can't quite believe the Shadow is getting yet another contract. Not the player we need to get out of the division, should be aiming much higher.