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Title: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, May 31, 2010, 08:20:21
Just read this in The Adver...

"Potentially, we could now see the break-up of this over-achieving Town side.

Loanees Stephen Darby, Alan Sheehan, Simon Ferry, Danny Ward and Frank Nouble will all return to their parent clubs this week, while 29-goal top scorer Billy Paynter is yet to sign a new deal and others like Craig Easton and Michael Timlin are also out of contract this summer.

That is not even considering the host of clubs who will be monitoring the progress of Austin. "



Stephen Darby -will go back to Liverpool...he's done ok for us but pffft ::)
Alan Sheehan - may or may not be here next season. If he is, fine. If not, pfft ::)
Danny Ward - gone. Shame but that's life. Who knows who might be lurking at Man City though who is as good or even...better ???
Frank Nouble.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Billy Paynter...he's been a great servant for the club and I wish him well but as others have said, he's replaceable...pffft ::)
Craig Easton and Michael Timlin...come on..Eastie has done very well when called upon this season. Great squad player but...pffft ::)
Charlie Austin...of course there will be utterly tedious transfer speculation all summer long but our Talisman aint going nowhere ::)

I just think the Adver are putting an overly negative slant on things when that is not the general feeling amongst the fans and I think it's a bit shit of them.

Whoops! I missed out Simon Ferry - I'm sure we'll sign him :hmmm:


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, May 31, 2010, 08:23:30
"Potentially, we could now see the break-up of this over-achieving Town side.

Interesting quote.  What do you think they meant by 'over-achieving'?  To me, it reads as if the journo thought we were lucky to finish where we did.  Strange.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Rustle on Monday, May 31, 2010, 08:30:18
No pride in this town anymore from the council to the adver it's a fucking joke really,It's like they are ready to put the boot in once the town fail and i know it's the journo's work to write things but fuck sake this our own local rag,the bit about town centre was busy while we were at wembley annoyed me aswell.



 


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: The_Plagiarist on Monday, May 31, 2010, 08:32:18
I don't see that as a negative slant, our team is made up of a fair few loanees this year plus a top scorer out of contract which is clearly going to mean players leaving.

Ward,
Sheehan,
Paynter,
Ferry?

assuming they go thats 3or4 of our first choice XI including our top scorer its a decent chunk we need to replace. The adver could have done without adding the austin sentence on the end but I guess clubs will be sniffing around him in the summer, but I don't see him leaving us just yet.

Ward and Ferry have been two of our best players this season and they aint ours. I'd say its a fair write up.

Imagine Bolton will want Ward in the championship next year and who can blame them he looks class in this league. Ferry maybe we get from celtic (about level standard as our league) and I can't see Paynter staying but not overly bothered. Leeds will pay him 10k a week and he won't score as many in the championship

Easton can go if we keep ferry, would like to keep Timlin have always rated him, he can play in a number of positions.

I'm sure Wilson is already on the case and should be an interesting summer, cannot wait for the start of next season! but yeah we do need to keep charlie don't we. If he was to leave then I'd start to get a bit negative.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: RobertT on Monday, May 31, 2010, 08:33:12
I'd like it to have read along the lines of a great opportunity with our new relationships to pull together an even better squad in early this year, which gives us a much better chance over 46 games than this season.  Keep the basis of the squad, including Charlie, add some real quality in the mould of Ward from City, Liverpool and Celtic, sign a few youngsters with good promise and 1 or 2 experienced performers and we should be in the hunt all season long.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, May 31, 2010, 08:42:44
I don't see that as a negative slant

It's a negative slant because it's painting a picture where the whole squad is going to disintegrate nd we're just going to fade away to being a mid-table team again. That is clearly not accurate. They've tried to bollster the story by including players who are frankly, not going to make a jot of difference by leaving. A couple of players will go, we know that. But that's all. Who knows how many other Danny Wards and Simon Ferry's are out there?


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: The_Plagiarist on Monday, May 31, 2010, 08:46:41

It's not a negative slant, it's just stating facts that many of the first team are loanees, and our top scorer is out of contract. This is clearly accurate.

The only bit they didn't need in there was the austin sentence, but its inevitable that with the first season he has had, bigger clubs are going to bid for him over the summer, whether we like it or not.



Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, May 31, 2010, 08:51:35
Realistically, we should try and keep Paynter even if it's going to cost an extra £500-1000 a week in my opinion.

In Austin and Paynter we have the best strike partnership in the division. To replace Paynter we'd realistically need to spend £100-200k. May as well give him that over a two year period in my opinion.



Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: The_Plagiarist on Monday, May 31, 2010, 08:56:17

Agree we should keep paynter if we can, but if leeds are in for him as the rumour goes, I don't see how we compete with their offer, and nor should we break the bank and our wage structure for him. Billy has had a fantastic season and changed my and many people I know, opinions of him. But if we're talking about silly money for a new contract, I don't think its worth it.




Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 31, 2010, 09:17:18
I'd like to keep Paynter. But you can't break the wage structure for one player. Assuming that is what would happen.

I think the lure of Championship football would probably be enough to see him go, not straight cash alone. It might be different if he wasn't a free agent, but its out our hands.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, May 31, 2010, 09:20:20
The summer transfer windows havnt been kind to us the last few years, but I think this reporter does have a bit of a Wembley hangover.

Our captain is staying, our player of the year is staying, our best defender is staying, the best goalie weve had since Digby is staying. Our talisman striker IS STAYING.

Out of all of those players, the only 2 I would be depressed about losing is Paynter and Ferry. Weve all come to terms that Ward is destined for big things and good luck to him.

But losing Austin is unthinkable.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, May 31, 2010, 09:21:04
I think we made the mistake not giving him the contract he wanted back when we had the chance and then closing things off until the end of the season.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 31, 2010, 09:21:43
I think we'll keep Austin. Cuthbert is my #1 worry (for no good reason mind),


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, May 31, 2010, 09:23:23
I wanna see us go into the summer with a little bit of intent.It was a bit of a slow slummer last year.Hindsight will say at the time that we got some good players last summer but it didn't feel like that at the time.

I just get this feeling that maybe getting so close will see fitton and co really go for it.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: betty_swollox on Monday, May 31, 2010, 09:41:04
I think we made the mistake not giving him the contract he wanted back when we had the chance and then closing things off until the end of the season.

I think BP has played so well this season because he knew he had to, to get a good contract somewhere else. Personally I believe he has already signed a contract with someone else (probably Leeds) as there has been no talk of will he wont he in the Adver for the past few months.
  I don't think breaking the wage structure to re-sign him is the answer now. It'll upset the good balance of the club and we'll start to get other players agents wanting improved contracts.
  Personally if we do lose the players mentioned I do think it will be a missive blow, especially Danny Ward. For every DW you sign on loan there are Ben Hutchinsons and Frak Noubles and even Stephen Darby. No matter what their rep is you just don't know what you're getting until you see them play Division 3 football.


But despite this minor moan, I'm still looking forward to next season and think we'll do well again.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, May 31, 2010, 09:46:57
I think we all know ward will be gone.I think we will get either Darby or Caddis on loan next season.

The good thing about these loan players we have had this season is that clubs will trust us to develope these youngsters and give them games.

We have struggled in the past getting loan players as people have been competing for them but now they will see we could be at the top challenging and be happier to send us these players.Also when it comes to signing these players.Theo Robinson joined Hudds instead because he thought like most that they would be challenging and we would be mid table.Given the choice again i bet he would think over both offers more seriously.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, May 31, 2010, 10:14:15

I just get this feeling that maybe getting so close will see fitton and co really go for it.

Yeah, you could be right there DRS, I certainly hope so. Let's take the bull by the horns and go for it!


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, May 31, 2010, 10:16:34
I think we all know ward will be gone.I think we will get either Darby or Caddis on loan next season.

The good thing about these loan players we have had this season is that clubs will trust us to develope these youngsters and give them games.

We have struggled in the past getting loan players as people have been competing for them but now they will see we could be at the top challenging and be happier to send us these players.Also when it comes to signing these players.Theo Robinson joined Hudds instead because he thought like most that they would be challenging and we would be mid table.Given the choice again i bet he would think over both offers more seriously.

Agreed again. It's going to be a lot easier for DW to attract players to the club this summer. Not that he did a bad job last year of course but it did seem to be a bit of a struggle at times.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, May 31, 2010, 10:31:35
No one had really heard of Cuthbert, Ferry, Ward et al this time
last year.

Why couldn't the journalist at least acknowledge that Wilson could do the same this summer?


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: DV on Monday, May 31, 2010, 10:48:28
adver is being shit, shocker!

what next - I'm surprised they didnt mention anything about Wilson leaving us for a better job


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: dell boy on Monday, May 31, 2010, 10:51:57
adver is being shit, shocker!

what next - I'm surprised they didnt mention anything about Wilson leaving us for a better job

Or sacked after a disappointing season.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, May 31, 2010, 11:41:39
I wanna see us go into the summer with a little bit of intent.It was a bit of a slow slummer last year.Hindsight will say at the time that we got some good players last summer but it didn't feel like that at the time.

I just get this feeling that maybe getting so close will see fitton and co really go for it.

Agree with all that. We got further than any of us expected this season. It's been great but now it's time to really take the bull by the horns and build a team seriously capable of promotion. Just thinking back to Fitton and Co's 5 year plan we are now 3 years into it. They'll want to seriously challenge next season IMO.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: tans on Monday, May 31, 2010, 12:05:01
Or sacked after a disappointing season.

According to Oxford fans he's already gone to a bigger club :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Mongs.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 31, 2010, 12:34:41
Or sacked after a disappointing season.
'Wilson to be sacked after disappointing season of over-achievement for Town'

I wouldn't put it past the Adver, although this clearly wouldn't be the headline as it contains no dodgy puns.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Anteater on Monday, May 31, 2010, 12:59:34
Another particularly poor piece of journalism from the 'underachieving' Swindon Advertiser.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: nevillew on Monday, May 31, 2010, 13:04:37
'Wilson to be sacked after disappointing season of over-achievement for Town'

I wouldn't put it past the Adver, although this clearly wouldn't be the headline as it contains no dodgy puns.

"Wilson Dan-nys higher league interest".


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Waspie on Monday, May 31, 2010, 17:09:16

Whoops! I missed out Simon Ferry - I'm sure we'll sign him :hmmm:

For what its worth this quote from Ferry that appeared in the Scottish press last week would suggest he is pretty keen to stay at Swindon;

"It doesn't really make a difference if that's in the Championship or still in League One. To be honest, if Swindon want to keep me then I'd be more than happy to stay, especially if the new Celtic manager comes in and tells me I just have to fight for the chance to get a game. If a manager like Danny Wilson wants to buy me then I would rather come back to Swindon and play for him and play somewhere I'm wanted."

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/sport/Celtic39s-young-midfielder-Simon-Ferry.6313571.jp


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: STFC Bart on Monday, May 31, 2010, 17:13:44
The standard from the adver has gone downhill rapidly since it has been printed down the A420


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 31, 2010, 17:23:11
I see the fucking Oxford Mail is up to it's usual high standards...

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/sport/oxfordunited/8193185.Hackett_s_promotion_joy/

Oxford have just been promoted and their banging on about an ex player.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Bumpkin on Monday, May 31, 2010, 17:23:18
The Adver is a very poor read these days, in fact I can hardly see it being printed six days a week for much longer.  It used to come out in the evenings with several different editions, now it's like a newsletter that comes out in the morning.

They don't employ seasoned hacks, just cub reporters trying to cut their teeth.  


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: leefer on Monday, May 31, 2010, 17:25:09
The Adver is a very poor read these days, in fact I can hardly see it being printed six days a week for much longer.  It used to come out in the evenings with several different editions, now it's like a newsletter that comes out in the morning.

They don't employ seasoned hacks, just cub reporters trying to cut their teeth.  


Correct,i still get it but it arrives before 8am with yesterdays news.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Bumpkin on Monday, May 31, 2010, 18:12:42
Yeah I still read it too -- for the Speedway and erm Ice Hockey.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 13:03:39
The missus got yesterday's copy at Joe's prompting cos it had a picture of Charlie Austin on the front. FFS, from reading that, you'd think the whole of civilisation was about to collapse instead of we've had one of our best seasons in a decade. Still, does anyone really look to the Adver for responsible balanced reporting?


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Talk Talk on Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 13:08:55
And since whoever it was pointed out the Adver's use of 'insists' instead of 'said' it has been driving me nuts. We have also had 'lamented', 'pleaded', 'admitted', 'revealed' and 'insisted' yet again.

What a load of shite.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 13:10:19
And since whoever it was pointed out the Adver's use of 'insists' instead of 'said' it has been driving me nuts.
Sorry about that.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 13:10:28
And since whoever it was pointed out the Adver's use of 'insists' instead of 'said' it has been driving me nuts.

Sorry about that.

Oi, Davis, get off my patch.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Talk Talk on Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 13:15:57
Nemo revealed that he said it first, but Davis insisted that it was him.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 13:19:09
I've been lamenting it for years, fuck off Nemo


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 13:20:16
I've been lamenting it for years, fuck off Nemo

I plead that you admit that it was in fact I who revealed this issue.


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 13:21:02
I plead that you admit that it was in fact I who revealed this issue.
Your insistence is an admission


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Talk Talk on Friday, June 4, 2010, 22:42:46
[url width=300 height=191]http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/resources/images/1315090/?type=display[/url]

Quote
A Swindon Town Fan trying to take in the disappointment after Swindon's loss to Millwall at Wembley.

Can they take this off the front page of the web site now please? Please?


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Monday, June 7, 2010, 05:30:16
Is that you then TT? What on earth has happened to your ear>


Title: Re: Negative slant from the Adver..
Post by: Talk Talk on Monday, June 7, 2010, 22:31:11
Is that you then TT? What on earth has happened to your ear>

No, it is not me! I have six fingers on one hand a hook on the other.