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Title: Proper politics
Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, May 6, 2010, 20:26:39
clearly a BNP win

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8663681.stm


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: leefer on Thursday, May 6, 2010, 20:33:14
http://www.infowars.com/eu-critic-nigel-farage-injured-in-plane-crash-in-northamptonshire/

Also how did Belgiums favourite son get out of this alive.


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, May 6, 2010, 20:42:48
Nick Griffin is the favourite to win Barking :(


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 6, 2010, 20:49:12
5-1 to win a seat with the bookies, who I trust more than the polls. I truly hope not.

Out of interest, can you be an MEP and an MEP or would he pass the European seat on?


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: Talk Talk on Thursday, May 6, 2010, 21:28:41
Out of interest, can you be an MEP and an MEP or would he pass the European seat on?

I'm sure that he could be the same at the same time.


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 6, 2010, 21:29:53
[url width=432 height=333]http://www.google.co.uk/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://api.ning.com/files/aMLkUWs6eSMdtxdYRhs7aM9QFWF3GjiGfGXZNDAGLpAoQxKiMbwsweebktCOXdVklmgXzIby3XIOyX6D6Or7QACBOIXu4JfO/rr.jpg&ei=uzTjS_qyM5Kd-gaPrbzoDw&sa=X&oi=image_landing_page_redirect&ct=legacy&usg=AFQjCNH9Drco0muA59sDKFwvkGLdTJ7asg[/url]

Meep Meep


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, May 6, 2010, 22:35:32
clearly a BNP win

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8663681.stm
When asked about the fight Mr Griffin told BBC London the fight was the result of a "campaign of hatred and dehumanisation against any group of people, in this case us"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, May 7, 2010, 01:49:55
Looks like he's going to win that seat :(


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 7, 2010, 02:23:50
Looks like he's going to win that seat :(
Nope, conceded defeat about an hour ago

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/election/BNP-leader-Nick-Griffin-concedes.6279447.jp
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1274162/General-Election-2010-Nick-Griffin-concedes-defeat-BNP-fails-Barking-Labour.html

Seem to be averaging around 3% in most seats I've seen and less than 2% of the vote nationally. What with that and their usual pre-election purges of previously loyal cardre, it's looking like a gratifying implosion for the BNP's "breakthrough election". Ha, ha, fuck off Nazis


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, May 7, 2010, 08:08:58
Nope, conceded defeat about an hour ago

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/election/BNP-leader-Nick-Griffin-concedes.6279447.jp
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1274162/General-Election-2010-Nick-Griffin-concedes-defeat-BNP-fails-Barking-Labour.html

Seem to be averaging around 3% in most seats I've seen and less than 2% of the vote nationally. What with that and their usual pre-election purges of previously loyal cardre, it's looking like a gratifying implosion for the BNP's "breakthrough election". Ha, ha, fuck off Nazis
As much as it is a small percentage, you do have to despair that 530,000 people thought voting for BNP was a good idea.


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: Doore on Friday, May 7, 2010, 16:45:05
As much as it is a small percentage, you do have to despair that 530,000 people thought voting for BNP was a good idea.

I do despair at that.  I met one the other day.  And yes, obviously, he was as thick as you would think.


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: leefer on Friday, May 7, 2010, 17:56:41
Look folks lets look at the bigger picture...i hate the BNP and all they stand for but we live in Swindon,ware the communities live in harmony in the main....if you go to Barking,Dagenham,Dover,Ashford and many other places you would feel a tad different.
Alot of the working class whites in these towns feel totally dissulusioned with what the Labour and Tory councils have let happen to once thriving places.
Rightly or wrongly alot are very bitter that the towns ware they grew up have been totally changed by bad immagration policies......its a protest vote by most.



Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: Spy on Friday, May 7, 2010, 18:10:03
Councils? The councils don't control immigration do they?


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: leefer on Friday, May 7, 2010, 18:42:03
Councils? The councils don't control immigration do they?

Course they do...Housing,schools,the building of Mosques or places of worship,etc etc,they make the decisions on what goes on.
Places like Hounslow,Leicester etc have had a gradual integration and these  places are more the richer for it....but many places have become a haven for immagrants and asylum seekers almost overnight and of course that will cause upset in the local population...hence the big rise in BNP votes.


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: Doore on Friday, May 7, 2010, 18:45:52
Not sure about immigration, but Council's have no say over where asylum seekers within the system end up.  That' the Home Office and a few regional centres it runs.  Council's have to deal with the population they are catering to.  And, can I had, on the whole do a fucking good job with very meagre resources.


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 7, 2010, 19:06:19
hence the big rise in BNP votes.
Except of course, there wasn't. And they got fucking slaughtered on results - lost their deposit in something like 80-90% of the seats they stood in, came nowhere in their two main target seats that they were so confident they were going to win, lost all their council seats in Leeds and Barking, and only kept hold of 5 in Stoke because they weren't being contested (they lost all the ones that were). The whole thing was an unmitigated disaster for the BNP - very much their "jumping the shark" moment. Just enjoying sitting back and waiting for the bloodletting as they all turn on each other now


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: leefer on Friday, May 7, 2010, 19:39:08
500,000 votes in total though...and 6000 for Griffin alone.
Now i know you hate them Paul..as i do but you cannot get away from the fact that they will lurk in dark alleys waiting for the right moment to pounce...and its down to our politicians at national and local level to make a better fist of dealing with the problem that is mass imagration and asylum seekers.....because the fact is there are many Towns and Citys on the verge of trouble....and the BNP thrive on trouble.


Title: Re: Proper politics
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 7, 2010, 20:22:49
Wouldn't disagree with a lot of that leefer - the main parties need to be more open in discussing a whole range of issues they've all ducked, not just immigration. There's a massive tidal wave of dissatisfaction none of them are addressing properly and they should.

But it's against that backdrop that a far-right protest party like the BNP with, supposedly, a bit of groundswell behind them should do well. They thought they would, that's why Griffin was telling anyone who'd listen that they'd take Barking and Stoke, and the councils there too. And instead they were smashed out of sight - once people see a genuine prospect of a BNP breakthrough in something important they come out in numbers and they get battered (at the polls).

It's like the late 70s again - rising tide of white working class discontent, hard times economically which the far right capitalise on with the scapegoating they always use. Then it was the NF and 79 was going to be their breakthrough election. They failed and fell apart in the next few years, to be replaced in large part by the BNP. Now the BNP have fucked up and fucked up royally on what should have been their big chance not, as in the 70s, because their thunder was stolen by a right-wing Tory campaign but more because people have seen them for what they are and they don't want it.

And so we'll start the cycle again - BNP will splinter in the recriminations over this election fiasco, the far right will fragment for a few years and then slowly start to rebuild either as a revamped Griffin-less BNP or under some new guise. The scum never fully goes away, and as you say, they thrive on the complacency and unwillingness to tackle issues of the mainstream politicos. But for now, I'm just enjoying watching them fuck up - it's like Pox's now annual post-Christmas implosion.

EDIT: Forgot to add - hats off to the activists at the Barking count singing "Who do you think you are kidding Mr Griffin?" to an increasingly close to tears GriffinFuhrer :D