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Title: Proportional Representation
Post by: Doore on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 22:59:14
I'm sure there is a thread this should go in to but I can't be bothered to look.  The sooner PR is adopted in this country the better.  I will vote on Thursday, as I believe it is a responsibility, but in the area I live and the way I will vote, it will mean nothing to the overall result.  Roll on PR.


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: trogladite on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:05:46
You do realise that people like me.  People that think that immigration has gone to far, may also get a voice in Parliament.  Is that what you want?  At least with this undemocratic election you can keep the status quo


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: deltaincline on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:08:35
I wouldn't bother voting, Billy. Anyone who thinks the election is going to make any difference to how the country is run is fucking mad.

And PR aint going to happen; our political system is designed to keep the cunts with the power - in power.  You can change the party colours and the MP's, PM etc every few years, but it'll make jack shit difference.

Use the voting paper as bog roll or shred it.


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: Doore on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:15:52
How will not voting help?  The vote is currently the only tool you have at your disposal - its the way the votes are counted that is wrong.

Alternatively, contact Talk Talk.  You two might just find a spark...


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:24:07
You do realise that people like me.
I find that unlikely


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: deltaincline on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:29:49
How will not voting help?  The vote is currently the only tool you have at your disposal - its the way the votes are counted that is wrong.

Alternatively, contact Talk Talk.  You two might just find a spark...

If you think that voting makes a difference, why hasn't PR already been established in this country? It's been promoted as a fairer and more representative electoral system by opposition politicians and celebs like John Cleese etc for fucking years, yet it's always remained on the back burner. I wonder why?

Isn't Talk Talk a plastic? The only spark I'd find with him would be the one that puts him on his fucking arse.


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: Talk Talk on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:32:27
How will not voting help?  The vote is currently the only tool you have at your disposal - its the way the votes are counted that is wrong.

Alternatively, contact Talk Talk.  You two might just find a spark...

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“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” - Gandhi

deltaincline is right of course (in my eyes). It is all about power and vested interests. We just get a beauty parade of three choices. There are no realistic alternatives.


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: Talk Talk on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:33:06
Isn't Talk Talk a plastic? The only spark I'd find with him would be the one that puts him on his fucking arse.

Eh?  :(


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: Doore on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:34:50
If you think that voting makes a difference, why hasn't PR already been established in this country? It's been promoted as a fairer and more representative electoral system by opposition politicians and celebs like John Cleese etc for fucking years, yet it's always remained on the back burner. I wonder why?

Isn't Talk Talk a plastic? The only spark I'd find with him would be the one that puts him on his fucking arse.


Voting does make a difference.  The whole system is based on votes.  What we need is a party who promote PR to get some influence in the House of Commons.  That is actually possible at the moment.  

You can make your own mind up on Talk Talk.


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: deltaincline on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:40:33
Voting does make a difference.  The whole system is based on votes.  What we need is a party who promote PR to get some influence in the House of Commons.  That is actually possible at the moment.

'System' being the operative word.

Your being had over, Billy. Wake up.


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: Doore on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:42:45
OK.  I'll wake up.  I'll not vote.  I'll do nothing.  I'll spend the next fifty years not voting, and doing nothing.  Its the sensible thing to do.


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: Talk Talk on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:47:49
OK.  I'll wake up.  I'll not vote.  I'll do nothing.  I'll spend the next fifty years not voting, and doing nothing.  Its the sensible thing to do.

It will have the same effect.


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: deltaincline on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:50:16
OK.  I'll wake up.  I'll not vote.  I'll do nothing.  I'll spend the next fifty years not voting, and doing nothing.  Its the sensible thing to do.

Wise move. Glad you got the message, Billy;-)

Cant understand why any cunt would vote for someone else to fucking govern them, anyway!


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: thedarkprince on Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 23:56:15
Cant understand why any cunt would vote for someone else to fucking govern them, anyway!

Sounds like you should've registered as an independent then... or go live in North Korea.


Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 01:17:43
'System' being the operative word.

Your being had over, Billy. Wake up.
Right on, man. Smash the system
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Title: Re: Proportional Representation
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 01:18:21
Proportional Representation can be just as unrepresentative to one person as First Past the Post is to another.

I'm currently undecided whether I should vote. Had the "oh you must vote or you can't complain" lecture when discussing my possible intentions at work. Absolute bollocks, whoever is in power is meant to represent me - it doesn't matter if I voted for that party, another party or none at all.