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Just caught up with reading the League paper, and there is a little explanation in the Stockport v Wycombe report of where some of these extra minutes come from. Gary ablett asked how long left, and was told 7 minutes. Asking where that came from the 4th official said, 4 goals, 4 subs, and 4 injuries, so looks like they add around 35 seconds per event. I didn't realise they added time for certainly goals, and i always thought that subs were made to waste time on occassion, so that doesn't look like the case. Should be pretty easy to work out beforehand now, see if it works against rovers saturday. 5 goals and 2 subs to us should be around 4 minutes added on then ;)

I'm sure it's 30 for a goal or sub then injuries are however long they take

I thought a certain amount of time was allowed for a goal, say 20 seconds, then any time longer than that before the restart is added on at the end. Though you tend to hear different things from different people and refs.

There are no set rules on how long is added for anything. People kept going on about 30 seconds for a sub a while back, but I'm sure refs have enough common sense to realise that some take longer while others take just a few seconds. The time added on is effectively just the amount of time the ref deems the match to not have been going on.

I always thought that they only added time on for injuries and subs, I was always of the belief that it was 30 seconds for a sub

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Of course they add time on for goals as the play is stopped, otherwise the team who scored first would just celebrate in the oppositions half till half time/full time!!

I remember after the Man City/Man Utd game where Owen scored in injury time this got discussed.

Someone who was a qualified ref posted what is and what isnt added on. This is off the top of my head.

Subs are 30 seconds per sub no matter how long it takes someone to leave the field of play.
Goals are not strictly 30 seconds, it depends how long the celebrations go on for before the game re-starts, if its 10 seconds you add that on, if its 1 minute you add that on.

I think, time is not stopped for throw ins, goal kicks or corner kicks unless the ref deems the team taking them to be taking too long. Again, I think the number is as high as 30 seconds, so unless you take over half a minute to take a throw in, goal kick, corner kick the watch wont get stopped or time wont be added on.

A far easier way to work it out is as follows.

If we are winning by 1 goal it will always be 4 minutes, without fail, no matter what.
If we are losing by 1 goal it will only be 3 minutes.
If we are drawing and looking the better team it will only be 2 minutes
If we are drawing but are being pushed back, it will again be 4 minutes.

I thought the referee was 'the sole arbiter of time' ?  The above would be a guideline only. (not the bit at the end)

Pretty much, some very loose guidelines.

The bit at the end is not a guideline but sheer fact!

Sort of.

What about the exiled inhabitants of Gallifrey?

inhabitant, surely?

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If you're going to get technical you should get your facts right. There are at least two time lords still running about (probably more than that) and the rest of them are most likely still trapped in that time bubble, which I'm guessing will crop up again. Though it's all a bit moot as Gallifrey itself was destroyed so it can't have any inhabitants.

the master is dead as fuck









until he gets resurrected for another series finale

Stoke take the piss with all that ball wiping..why is a player taking a throw in allowed to dry the ball,yet the keeper isnt...should be at least an extra two minutes at full time just for all that messing around.

I don't understand why a timer can't be used to count down from 45 and stop every time there's a stoppage in play. The whole thing is absolute bollocks tbh, football have become 94 minute games as that one nearly always comes up even if there hasn't been any stoppages.

Agreed. They manage it fine in Rugby.

As previously posted there is no definitive answer, but the FA suggest 30 seconds for each goal and substitution.  Most referees will also add 30 seconds for each caution and dismissal, but the rest is really a matter of personal interpretation based on injurys (most refs stop their warch) and and how much "time wasting" goes on - keeper messing about, kicking the ball into row z unnecesarilly etc.

Thats why it always makes me chuckle when a team who is behind rush to get the ball out of the net when they score a goal.Also when idiot commentators always state substitutions are made "to waste a few seconds".

They do use a timer, the referee has two watches - one counts down (usually) and the other is kept on the normal time - the count-down is stopped whenever a stoppage in play requires time to be stopped (sounds funny...). What people on the TV just gives off the wrong impression of how football is time-kept - remember ruggers has longer stoppages for conversions and stuff.

The FA do not give any time suggestions (as far as i know, but then again, i'm not refereeing at the top and they give them all sorts of crazy advice...) If play is stopped for anything ceremonious then play will be stopped - free-kicks around the area, subs, mis-conducts etc, and the ref will then re-start his timer on at the restart of play. When he notices (or gets told by the 4th) that it's been 45 mins since K.O he'll tell him,at least, how long he still has on his countdown. Of course, when players take a little too long at a goal-kick, throw etc, the referee will use his discretion and determine what is acceptable - if too long, warning then a caution, or maybe just a caution, then just play for a few moments after the count-down has finished.

You'll often find referees not blowing up during, what could be, a promising attack, and if a goal is scored,the ref will play a minute or two over his 'added time' to not give the impression he 'only played on until that team scored' - i.e 'cheating'. Why referees blow up just as a goal kick is taken (i know it's not been mentioned) is weird, the ball doesn't even have to be in play for a half to finish.

Someone said it, the ref is sole time-keeper, how he keeps it, and what he deems to be a sufficient stoppage in play is purely up to him (obviously knowing the general stoppages in play that require time to be stopped). Sky/TV laws are totally different to FIFA's law book, and remember, one of the countries top pundits/commentators is Andy Gray...and he's fucking thick when it comes to the laws of the game!

That's all well and good, but sports such as Ice Hockey have a big clock that counts down so that everyone can see it. Everyone knows EXACTLY how much time is left and soon as the clock hits 0 the game is over. No bias, no poor judgement from inept officials, no complaints from anyone about how much time should or should not have been played.

Maybe I'm just too sceptical, but I cannot remember a time recently when we DIDN'T have 4 minutes added on when we were one goal up.

Don't forget the added one or two minutes in the first half.