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Watching the Wales v Scotland match, with Wales 3-0 up after 35 mins, and should've had a penalty.

Scotland are shite. :D

Glad neither of those two teams are anywhere near the world cup, I dislike both.

Heres hoping the ROI beat the Frenchies tonight :D

Scotland are bollocks. Ha ha this really had made my afternoon.

Fully agree Luci. I feel a bit sorry for the ROI, as they've had the holders in Italy in their group, and then in the play-offs they play the runners-up in France.

I think they've done wonderfully well in a hard group and definitely think they have a chance to get through.  It would be sooo sweet to see France not make it to the finals!

I fucking hate France but don't feel sorry for ROI. So what if they had a hard group? Every group is hard and really ROI aren't a WC standard team in all honestly.

Desailly coming out and saying it wouldn't be a proper world cup without france, and it would be a scandal. hmmm.

Our group was a piece of piss in fairness.

I've been watching it on the red button with the Welsh commentary. The Welsh language sounds so wierd.

And that Ramsay's a bit special.

By FIFA world rankings when the draw was made, we were in the most difficult group in all WC groupa as Croatia, Ukraine and ourselves were all in the top 12.

We were supposedly in the Group of Death !!!

Scotland are shtie. It was definatley a penalty which they had turned down.

If ROI can get a lead at home tonight then you never know they could hold out in the 2nd leg.

Lucky it didn't realise that Crotia would turn shit.

If they qualify thay are

If they couldn't qualify out of the group they were in, and then couldn't win their play-off they don't deserve to qualify.End of....and I could sleep at night without them.

Or like 2002, they could qualify, not get a point or a goal and fuck off home after the first week.

Even though that was funny...not qualifying is even funnier !!!

Anyway back to the Scotland game the ref should've sent of the Scottish keeper for deiberate handball, but only books him.

Scotland should be 5 or 6 down....

Is this the end for Burley?

He should manage a team that plays that Gaelic version of hockey. Then he could be Hurly Burley

If the next manager does the same would that be Burley-esque ?

The ref in the England game doesn't like blowing his whistle...

Pea shortage ime told..........Milner looks better every match for England.

Wes Brown is dog shit surely he wont make the final squad, great finish though

who else are England going to play at right back, Glenn Johnson?!?

i want to watch the ireland game later,but the mrs and daughter want that fucking talent(cough)show on instead.
dont fancy my chances much.

pub somewhere must have it on?

Get down the tap and barrell Arriba. Sensible decision by the ref on the yellow card.

Haha shit pen

6 runs!

JuJust confirmed my earlier point

tap and barrel is a great shout(will be rockingin there later i reckon)but alas i've just ordered a chinese and got tinnies in for this evening.

Just as rocking then mate ;)

Been impressed with Milner

ITV is wank isnt it.  Its like a fucking M and S commercial the way they salivate over Brazil.  Jesus Tyledsley they are playing against a team featuring Wes Brown, calm down.

I got fed up of it and turned it off.

Hulk on. Cue puns.

Last time i said this he went and scored but Shaun Wright Phillips never seems to impress me for England.

You gota marvel at him dont you think.

He's no David Beckham is he.

If Rooney doesnt play England dont play.

Wright philips is shit for england

Some Man City fans would argue he is shit for them aswell

hes no James Milner or Ashley Young either

Yep, I originally wrote in my post about moving Milner right and giving Young 15 minutes down the left but my laptop fucked up.

I dont understand why Young hasnt had a full game on the left in one of the many pointless friendlies.

oh, here he is now a whole 6 minutes plus injury time for Young...

The bloody band managed to get to Qatar :/

Brazil don't look anything special. If we'd played Crouch from the start we would have won.

england are poorish and will be for the forseable future.a few great individuals but no balance.
shite keepers too

Thought we were alright but considering we played a reserve team I wasn't expecting much else. Brazil look very good. Them or Spain for the WC without a doubt.

Better than a lot of the other teams already qualified I'd hazzard a guess at, New Zealand for sure.

I quite like to see other British teams and the ROI doing well, the Irish would be a great addition to the WC as far as I can see it, fans would be good.

 hate the fact that they seeded the play offs.  The all finished second, they should have been equal but fifa or whoever feel its more important to get france and portugal into the finals than bosnia.  Wankers.

The only player who looked any good was Milner, pretty gash really but I take comfort in the fact that was basically England B. I hate SWP, Brown, Jenas and Defoe quite alot.

Yeah, really dont see how Jenas got in, there must be better options at RB than Brown too, even in GJ's absence?

Luke Young's retired so who's next? Hibbert?

God is it that bad?  That sucks balls, dare I say Phil Neville?  :grits teeth:

Why is it we always have one position where we have no depth whatsoever?

er. we have more than 1.goal keeper,right back,left back,left mid,centre forward

GK is a given, OK at LB for my money, left mid is ok with people out of position as has been demonstrated thus far under Capello, CF I think we are OKish.

RB is, after GJ, is just a gaping hole.

I couldn't be bothered watching the England game, it was all about the money and nothing else.

Unfortunately I've still got the same concerns about England I've had for some time; Lampard and Gerrard will always play no matter what, Crouch will never start, Owen won't be in the squad.

We won't have a chance of winning anything without Owen, as apart from Rooney and Crouch no other striker  is international level. Sometimes playing Lampard and Gerrard isn't the best option, yet the whoever the England manager is they think it is the best option. Crouch scores a shit load of goals at international level and scares the shit out of most defences, yet is never really considered for the starting eleven.

Another summer of discontent is looming.

Owen is past it sadly. Not fit enough and nowhere near his old best. I do think people have over reacated. After all we had at least 7 first choice players missing and we were playing the best team in the world who were almost at full strength in tough conditions as well.

Fully agree on that. Due to injuries he's lost his pace. He was shit for Newcastle, and if you saw the Champions League game against CSKA, he was shocking.

Owen isn't past it, statistically he was the best finisher in the Prem last season, so what if he's not as quick, I'd rather him in and around the 6 yard box than any of our other forwards.

I'd definitely still take Owen next summer, he is losing it a bit but I still think he's more likely to put away one chance than Bent or Defoe who seem to need 3 or 4 chances to score 1... I still believe Owen is more clinical

I don't think Brazil are the best team in the world, Spain are better than them.

If you mean for Town, then yes, for England a big no.

I think Wes Brown can book 4 weeks in Majorca next June after that performance.I agree Owen must go-the only England player (apart from Rooney)that's proved himself in a major tornament.

owen has missed some right sitters this season.
the fact he's being considered shows how shite the crop of forwards are

Cant agree arribba..Owns pedigree is shown in the stats,class is always going to rise to the top....everyone thaught Beckham was finished...Owen has got a standing in the game that foreign players will be worried about and respect....all i will say is that hes got to change his style as the pace has gone so hes got to be more of a predator in the box.....not a bad performance by England but just like Swindon its a case of playing ok but not winning the big games.

what dont you agree with.the missed sitters or the crap crop of forwards?

there are always missed sitters.  Drogba's done it, Torres has done it, why, because he's English, should Owen's missed sitters be worried about?

You'd have Torres and Drogba no question if they were English, no?

of course i'd take both.drogba has missed a few chances, but i dont remeber torres missing them?
i was originally pointing out owen isn't as clinical as we'd like him to be,based on this season anyway.

as i said earlier owen was statistically the best finisher in the Prem going by chances scored, that says to me he is clinical?

i strongly doubt he is now.

it was last season though, surely he's only going to get better at utd?  From half way through the season onward AF always relies more on the squad, owen will get games and will score goals if the service is there, no doubt in my mind.

France 1-0 up at the republic.

Owen will always be better than Defoe.

The missed sitters....he hasnt missed many sitters in an England shirt...look at his record..brilliant.

i'm not questioning owens record at all.

Both Beckham and owen are trading on former glories. I'd dump them both. I appreciate they've got tournament experience but Beckham has been shit in every tournamant he's palyed in and whilst Own has been better in tournament play it didn't stop Greece being champions of Europe with fuck all experience.

wes brown is utter utter shite. that is all i have to say :)

True about Beckham but deserves another chance for me