Title: Le Tissier Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 11:36:36 Hahahahah
Useless cunt http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210882/Football-legend-Matthew-Le-Tissier-admits-10-000-Premier-League-betting-scam.html Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 11:51:22 Haha.
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 11:55:11 serves him right greedy ogre
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 11:57:04 What a thick twat, not only to try to execute the fraud as if he was playing like Ali Dia, but to even admit to it. Hmm conspiracy to defraud!
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: pauld on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 12:28:44 I wonder if "staggering incompetence" is a legally recognised defence
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: DMR on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 12:33:37 This makes me like him even more, absolute hero
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: The Artist Billy Paynter on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 12:47:32 maybe he's got his savings on Soton to be relegated this season? ;D
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 12:57:24 Didn't they have a similar thing around 10 ago when West Ham deliberately kicked the ball into touch from kick off as they had a few quid on the first throw-in in the first few seconds ?
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:04:16 Didn't they have a similar thing around 10 ago when West Ham deliberately kicked the ball into touch from kick off as they had a few quid on the first throw-in in the first few seconds ? Rings a bell. Loads of far Eastern bets raised suspicions. These days Le Tissier reminds me of a poor man's Phil Tufnell. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:21:36 Whenever I go we always seem to punt the ball straight out of play.
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:24:18 Whilst we can all have a laugh at him fucking it up, its not actually funny is it? Its match fixing, end of.
It makes it worse that he thinks its funny, that he didn't do anything wrong and that he has made some more money out of it by selling the story to a paper. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:30:00 I wonder if "staggering incompetence" is a legally recognised defence Only if he had the letters 'MP' after his name Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:30:15 Its match fixing, end of. No, because the result of the game would not be altered by hoofing it out in the first 30 seconds. Whether it is conspiracy to defraud is another matter, I'm no lawyer. Bit stupid to admit to it though. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: nevillew on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:30:30 Whilst we can all have a laugh at him fucking it up, its not actually funny is it? Its match fixing, end of. It makes it worse that he thinks its funny, that he didn't do anything wrong and that he has made some more money out of it by selling the story to a paper. It's bet rigging, not match fixing - still sets a dodgy precedent though. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:41:31 It's bet rigging, not match fixing - still sets a dodgy precedent though. What's the difference? Whether it is conceding a throw in or conceding a goal its the same thing. I've always liked him but I really hope Sky sack him or suspend him for 12 months or something. He obviously thinks its funny and not an issue, what kind of example does that set to other players and kids? Hopefully the police will be investigating it with a view to charging him with fraud or whatever it is. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: nevillew on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:45:51 What's the difference? Whether it is conceding a throw in or conceding a goal its the same thing. Hopefully the police will be investigating it with a view to charging him with fraud or whatever it is. We slaughtered them 4 throw ins to nil ? Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:46:37 Oh fuck off jonny, you utter twat.
I agree with DMR, Le Tiss is a hero. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:54:16 No, because the result of the game would not be altered by hoofing it out in the first 30 seconds. But the match is altered by hoofing it out, what if Le Tiss had not done that? It's perfectly possible that the ball would have been won in the first 30 secs of play and the other team had gone and immediately scored. (yes yes I know I'm on 'butterfly effect' territory now) But the point is, it's still defrauding bookmakers (I appreciate they don't always get sympathy) and fans. Basically a player has admitted he'd rather line his own pocket fraudulently than play for the team. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: DV on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 13:56:51 What's the difference? Whether it is conceding a throw in or conceding a goal its the same thing. Its really not, is it... Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: DMR on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 14:03:46 Whilst we can all have a laugh at him fucking it up, its not actually funny is it? Its match fixing, end of. It makes it worse that he thinks its funny, that he didn't do anything wrong and that he has made some more money out of it by selling the story to a paper. Behave yourself Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 14:19:17 Where do you draw the line then? What about a free kick, or a corner, or a booking, or a goal?
The line is pretty clear nowadays, any player placing a bet on a game they are involved in is looking at a six month ban and I'd imagine it would be a lot longer if they were found to have influenced any part of the game as well. Just because it was Le Tissier, only a throw in and he fucked it up doesn't make any difference to me. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 14:28:20 Behave yourself It made me laugh thats why I posted it ! Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 14:53:36 These days Le Tissier reminds me of a poor man's Phil Tufnell. Im glad Im not the only one that thinks that!! hahahaha! Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: pauld on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 15:02:04 What's the difference? Whether it is conceding a throw in or conceding a goal its the same thing. Conceding a goal will alter the course of the match, conceding a throw-in from kick off is very unlikely to. Conspiracy to obtain property by deception maybe, but it's not match-fixing. I'll bet a shiny new 50p nothing gets done about it thoughTitle: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 17:32:28 I hate to say it. But Johnny is right. This is match fixing.
Very shocked. Still see Le Tissier as a legend, but this is out of order. I dont agree with a lot of these spread bets. They really are far too tempting to individual sportsmen and I think this sort of thing has been rife in football and cricket for 15 years now. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Luci on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 17:36:14 Im glad Im not the only one that thinks that!! hahahaha! And me! But Tuffers is much more ace :D Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 17:45:05 If you want to know how damaging this sort of spread betting is in sport then just look at cricket.
They have been fighting it for 20 years. Disgraced Hansie Cronje couldnt fix a match. He was getting out for between 31-40 runs, after how many overs, this sort of thing. National hero to zero. Once you get bookmakers and betting syndicate's involved with players there is no end to the corruption. Cant believe how simple some people's views on here are on this subject. :nonono: Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: DMR on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 18:30:35 I'd rather have what you deem a simple view than blow anything and everything out of proportion like your good self.
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 18:55:32 It's wrong, he shouldn't have done it, it may have altered the course of the match, but it is not the same as match fixing - where you deliberately lose or concede X amount of goals.
It was a stupid thing to do, and it's stupid to come out and admit it. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 19:20:58 Match fixing, in terms of fixing a result is impossible in team sports. A much more cost effective way is bribing the poorly paid refs, as Marseille were caught doing in 1993, and Juventus in 2006.
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: axs on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 19:51:09 It's wrong, he shouldn't have done it, it may have altered the course of the match, but it is not the same as match fixing - where you deliberately lose or concede X amount of goals. It was a stupid thing to do, and it's stupid to come out and admit it. Agreed. I've read through this and no other statements quite matched with my opinion. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: RobertT on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 21:24:08 I have to say I find it a little funny. I'm not too fussed about gamblers or bookies being out of pocket, but ultimately where is the problem? I can bet on a team winning, someone may bet the other way, should that other person be upset if the team I bet on try harder to win? (well, other than losing the bet). Le Tissier put money on an event he may actually have had no way of influencing anyway and other players in the game were trying the hardest to stop it from happening, even if not for betting purposes. Provided the player is still trying to win the game then any fool making bets on other events for any reason other than a bit of fun deserves to lose. I;ve bet on the number of corners to make a shit game more fun to watch, but wouldn't give a shit if I lost that money. Sport is all about the result (sod that taking part shit), protect that then I think it's fine.
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: michael on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 21:29:21 This tale reminds me of one of my favorite in-game games, courtesy of Neil Ruddock, whereby he'd come onto the pitch carrying a pound coin, and during the match pass it on to another player.
The aim of the game is to get the pound coin around the entire team before half time. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: RobertT on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 21:34:20 Can you bet on the player to make the first foul? imagine if a team all individually tried fixing that one!
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: axs on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 21:34:42 I have to say I find it a little funny. I'm not too fussed about gamblers or bookies being out of pocket, but ultimately where is the problem? I can bet on a team winning, someone may bet the other way, should that other person be upset if the team I bet on try harder to win? (well, other than losing the bet). Le Tissier put money on an event he may actually have had no way of influencing anyway and other players in the game were trying the hardest to stop it from happening, even if not for betting purposes. Provided the player is still trying to win the game then any fool making bets on other events for any reason other than a bit of fun deserves to lose. I;ve bet on the number of corners to make a shit game more fun to watch, but wouldn't give a shit if I lost that money. Sport is all about the result (sod that taking part shit), protect that then I think it's fine. problem is, he's changing the game and breaking the spirit of the sport. You'd be hacked off if you'd bet on six corners and then there was one more in the last minute because a player had put money on there being seven and hoofed it out. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: RobertT on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 21:42:23 not really, it's a gamble
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: axs on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 21:44:08 not really, it's a gamble But you would have won if he hadn't deliberately conceded a corner to line his own pockets, which he then tells you in his autobiography which cost you 18 quid in waterstones. You shouldn't have bought it, then you wouldn't have known any better. mug. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 22:51:04 Le Tissier put money on an event he may actually have had no way of influencing anyway and other players in the game were trying the hardest to stop it from happening, even if not for betting purposes. He cut a deal with the Wimbledon captain before the toss, so Southampton would kick off and Wimbledon would play towards their fans - so he had that part covered. Then when he missed the touchline he ran round the pitch like a blue arsed fly until he managed to get the ball out for a throw in. Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: pauld on Thursday, September 3, 2009, 22:53:01 The FA should immediately establish a special death squad with instructions to shoot the big-nosed miscreant on sight
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Friday, September 4, 2009, 07:36:04 stan bowles whilst playing for qpr in the 70s had a bet on the national, the opposition had a corner and a fan behind the qpr goal had the national on the radio. bowles headed the ball behind for 6 consecutive corners so he could listen to the race.
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: caveman on Friday, September 4, 2009, 08:43:06 i seem to remember us doing this under king every single game, was this one of the great mans "tactics" or did he have a few quid on it.. hmm
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: ghanimah on Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:26:49 Whoops
Quote Police have contacted the Football Association over an admission by former England striker Matt Le Tissier that he was part of a failed betting scam... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/8250042.stm Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: tans on Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:35:34 hampshire police must be quiet then.
it fucking happened 14 yrs ago Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:51:26 Must be Pompey supporters...
Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: richt1976 on Friday, September 11, 2009, 13:18:22 Is everyone really surprised by this?! To me the only surprising thing is that he admitted it.
Its been common knowledge in and around football for years that things like this have gone on! If you took a strawpoll of current and former professional players you would astounded by the figure who said they had done something similar. We even used to do it in the Hellenic league!! And as for us town fans saying its such a disgrace, cast your minds back to the 'good old' Macari days..... people in glass houses and all that..... Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, September 11, 2009, 13:54:35 Can you bet on the player to make the first foul? imagine if a team all individually tried fixing that one! You can bet on first booking Title: Re: Le Tissier Post by: Spencer_White on Friday, September 11, 2009, 18:56:05 Is everyone really surprised by this?! To me the only surprising thing is that he admitted it. Its been common knowledge in and around football for years that things like this have gone on! If you took a strawpoll of current and former professional players you would astounded by the figure who said they had done something similar. We even used to do it in the Hellenic league!! And as for us town fans saying its such a disgrace, cast your minds back to the 'good old' Macari days..... people in glass houses and all that..... That wasnt players betting on matches they were playing in though? |