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Title: Trivia
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 07:37:07

Why is it when a player scores 2 goals it is called a brace and when a player scores 3 it is a hat trick ?

Where did these phrases come from ?



Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 07:41:04
Hat trick

A)From the English game of cricket when a bowler takes 3 wickets with three consecutive balls.
Very hard to do. In the 19th century a person who did this was given a new hat by his team.
B)Or when a bowler did this he was allowed to take his hat around to the crowd for donations.
Whichever you prefer.
First appeared in print in the 1870's.

Not sure about Brace


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 07:43:15
A brace simply means a pair I think. Don't have a dictionary to hand to confirm that.

I'm sure a hat-trick comes from cricket, something about a player who took 3 consecutive wickets being given a hat.


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: timmyg on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 07:50:28
I thought a Brace was a hunting term for a pair - e.g a brace of phesant?  Not sure where it came from, though.

The cricket bowler taking three consecutive wickets and then going around the ground collecting donations with his hat was the version I'd always heard.


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 08:08:13
Think 'brace' comes from the french word for arms - 'bras'. Most people have two of them.


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 08:46:43
Think 'brace' comes from the french word for arms - 'bras'. Most people have two of them.

Sounds reasonable hence... embrace.

The French for bra, is soutiens gorge, thought I might need to remember that one from French lessons at school. Not a very sexy word for such a fine invention..

[url width=300 height=380]http://www.linternaute.com/femmes/luxe_mode/lingerie/0804-soutiens-gorge-formes-genereuses/images/1-empreinte.JPG[/url]

  Bras...a pair...ho hum


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:16:12
Think 'brace' comes from the french word for arms - 'bras'. Most people have two of them.

I believe you're thinking of breasts.

Blokes don't generally own any bras and birds normally have a lot more than two.


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:26:25
Has Reg been looking through the Littlewoods catalogue?


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:30:53
Has Reg been looking through the Littlewoods catalogue?

I would have done, but the pages were stuck together after you used it.


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:55:12
I believe you're thinking of breasts.

Must admit that I often do.


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 10:00:25
I would have done, but the pages were stuck together after you used it.

That's what's the modern marvel that is the internet is for Reg. I haven't been anywhere near your catalogues.


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 17:15:24
I would have done, but the pages were stuck together after you used it.
:D :D :D :-[


Title: Re: Trivia
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 17:15:57
I thought a Brace was a hunting term for a pair - e.g a brace of phesant?  Not sure where it came from, though.
You are correct about the hunting terms, three foxes seen leaving a wood would be a brace and a half - don't know why you just couldn't call it three!!  However, in hunting terms the hounds are referred to in couples, you don't have thirty hounds you have fifteen couples.  Tradition I suppose,