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Title: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, July 25, 2009, 17:10:18
Or more specificallt felipe massa. In an accident worryingly identical to that of henry surtees in the week, massa got hit by some debris (a piece of barrichelo suspension), and plundered head first into the tyre wall. He did seem to appear to apply the brakes, but crashed at some speed. Ferrar originally said he was fine, but turns out he has cut on his forehead, bone damage to his skull and a brain concussion. Clicky below for a photo. Beware, its a bit gruesome

http://www.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2009/07/25/1248529885121_888.jpg

He has to have surgery now, so definatley out of the race tomorrow, perhaps even F1 forever, which would be a pity. Very erratic as a driver, but still came within one corner of winning the title last year.

On to tommorows race, alonso on pole, the two red bulls second and third (i think), and hamilton fourth. Button down in 8th. Its looking more and more unlikely brawn will win either title this season, Red Bull look unstoppable. A good start for hamilton tomorrow, with his KERS of the startline, and i reckon we could see him victorious.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: axs on Saturday, July 25, 2009, 17:23:34
Always sad when there's injuries in the sport, hopefully he will be back this season.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 25, 2009, 19:57:46
Successful operation apparently. Though in intensive care under observation for obvious reasons. Can't see him being back this season, that's even assuming his eye still has 100% vision.

Picture here of Massa after accident. Not too blood and gore, but the damage to the helmet and his head is pretty sobering I guess 800g of metal hitting you at god knows what speed is going to do damage.

http://sport.orf.at/090725-16997/formel_pop_massa_unfall_gesicht_b_a.jpg

The race itself I can't see past Red Bulls. I don't think McLaren are quite there yet but maybe a shot at 3rd. Button has a bit more fuel on board than those in front but surely not enough to get the places back given his current position. Alonso is very light.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, July 25, 2009, 20:06:32
Life threatening apparently

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5453673,00.html


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 25, 2009, 20:10:31
I think that means life threatening as in he's just had head surgery and  that in itself can be life threatening if complications arise.

That's James Allens take anyway

http://twitter.com/jamesallenonf1

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ignore reports on Sky/AP that Massa is in life threatening condition. He's stable after an op and will be okay. Long recuperation though


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, July 25, 2009, 20:13:25
Good ol' james.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Summerof69 on Saturday, July 25, 2009, 20:13:44
And the media like to hype things up as well. I'm likely to believe James Allen's comments more.

Wishing Felipe all the best in his recovery.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, July 25, 2009, 20:15:59
This whole episode does bring into doubt the whole 'mid season testing' rule. Would a properly tested brawn be shedding bits of suspension for no reason at all?


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, July 25, 2009, 20:31:13
Totally freak accident. Really hope he is able to drive in F1 again. I think that's the first time this season that we've seen something dodgy from a Brawn car as well.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: TOWNEND TONTO on Sunday, July 26, 2009, 08:37:52
No motor sport is 100% safe and the drivers know this when they get into the cars.This is why they are payed very well.I think the thing people should be saying is how most of the saety features worked.

How heavy is a spring,1lb maybe,how fast was he traveling 150mph maybe thats a lot of force hitting your head.

Hes done well to be around long enough to have a operation.
Get well soon.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 26, 2009, 14:16:43
Well driven Lewis. Didn't think the McLaren was quite there yet, but it quite clearly was. On this track at least.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: axs on Sunday, July 26, 2009, 14:17:56
He'll do Jenson a few favours over the next few races I think.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: michael on Sunday, July 26, 2009, 18:30:01
What a horrible incident that was.

I don't think that we'll see Massa in an F1 car again.

Nose to tail racing is a large part of the sport, especially now that there is no over-taking, and I wouldn't blame him if he doesn't fancy that anymore.

Shame because he was a nice bloke too.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: axs on Sunday, July 26, 2009, 18:30:50
He probably still is.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:22:04
why did I click on that pic!  :cry:

On a lighter note - lovely to see the beautiful Nicole there cheering on Lewis!


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, July 27, 2009, 12:10:58
She's there every race JFW and they show her every race too.




Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, July 27, 2009, 12:21:57
I know!! I love it! I loved the maxidress/cardie combo she wore at Silverstone!


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:09:40
*breaking news*

The stig will replace massa. Bloody obvious, gene isn't good enough and luca bloody badoers about 50


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Stef Troll on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:11:00
*breaking news*

The stig will replace massa. Bloody obvious, gene isn't good enough and luca bloody badoers about 50


Hopefully he will outclass Hamilton to show whos boss


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: michael on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:13:14
...because Kubica hasn't been able to.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:13:35
Why would he 'hopefully' outclass hamilton?

He's a class act no doubt, and probably the best driver of all time, but he won't do owt special. May get a podium, but he won't win a race.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:17:35
...because Kubica hasn't been able to.

Haha, thats right. I forgot stefpol was one of those "i'm not english and i want you all to know" types


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Stef Troll on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:20:59
Haha, thats right. I forgot stefpol was one of those "i'm not english and i want you all to know" types

With BMW demise Kubica didnt really have a chance.  Just look at Hamiulton, only a few weeks ago he had a poor car and was coming near the back of the pack.  Suddenly has a good car under him and he starts to win.

Put Hamilton and Kubica in the same car and i know who i'd prefer to have driving for me.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:22:53
Fucking hell. If hamilton is so shit how come he pisses all over his team-mate in the same car?


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: michael on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:25:20
It will be interesting to see how Schumacher does in a car that isn't built by Ross Brawn.

His entire reputation rests on the European Grand Prix: Is he a genius behind the wheel, or was just fortunate to be sitting in the best car for over a decade?

Oh, and Kubica is just too big to ever be a top F1 driver. His size is why BMW had to get rid of KERS.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:27:17
Considering Schumacher plays a big part in Ferrari's development and setup, I wouldn't doubt his racing genius.

Just a shame he is a big cheating German cunt at the same time.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:28:26
I think it would be harsh to judge schumacher on just the next race. Its a track he'll never had driven before, and up untillthe friday practise he won't have driven an f1 car in anger for nearly 3 years


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: michael on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 17:30:32
Well what can I say, I am a very harsh person.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 18:30:32
Hamilton V Schu is a showdown i'd love to see. Both very very good drivers. You can see Hamilton is a talent but he hasn't got the experience that Schumacher has.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Spencer_White on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 19:45:56
BMW have withdrawn from Formula 1.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 20:44:56
With BMW demise Kubica didnt really have a chance.  Just look at Hamiulton, only a few weeks ago he had a poor car and was coming near the back of the pack.  Suddenly has a good car under him and he starts to win.

Put Hamilton and Kubica in the same car and i know who i'd prefer to have driving for me.
I don't think anybody would have won a race in the car Hamilton had a month ago, and I don't think there are many drivers who would have won in Hungary with the car he had then.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 20:47:22
Hamilton is far better than Schumacher. Anyone could have won a load of championships in the cars he had.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 20:55:13
WHERE IS DAUCHER WHEN YOU NEED HIM ??????


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 21:15:31
Schumacher back in F1 is possibly the best news I've had in ages. The hair on the back of my neck stood up and i feel like I've just got some major action off a room full of tasty women. I can't stop smiling. :D  There's not a lot that could better this imo. :beers:


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: axs on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 21:42:31
Weirdo.


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 21:43:36
Barry has just pulled his Jack Boots on and dyed his hair blonde


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 22:17:40
:D Seriously, for years Ferrari was all i cared about in F1, and when they got Schumi, he was the only driver I watched. He epitomised everything I loved about F1. (And probably everything everyone hated about F1!) Him retiring kinda killed my love for F1 and this will reignite it in a quite horrible way. I might have got damp eyes when he retired. :-[


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: nochee on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 22:19:42
I think Ferrari F1 are cunts. Ive been waiting for a reply to my job application now for 3 weeks. My hope is fading  :(


Title: Re: F1 Hungary GP
Post by: axs on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 22:20:45
:D Seriously, for years Ferrari was all i cared about in F1, and when they got Schumi, he was the only driver I watched. He epitomised everything I loved about F1. (And probably everything everyone hated about F1!) Him retiring kinda killed my love for F1 and this will reignite it in a quite horrible way. I might have got damp eyes when he retired. :-[


I used to think you were cool.