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Title: vicariousness
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, July 20, 2009, 01:51:30
i'm starting to get really pissed off with our country demanding success from our sporting 'heroes' - yes i'm a town and england football fan along with sometime rugby and more often cricket fan but the pressure that is put on individuals (mostly) to succeed in their trade is making me sick...

these people, be it tennis players, boxers, athletes, motor racingers, golfers etc are out there doing their jobs to the best of their ability against the very best of all their other respective opponents in the world and the people in this country continuously knock them down when they they don't deliver trophies.

like i said i'm a team sports fan and when the whole team goes 'awol' i expect them to make up for it but this individual sport stuff is so much harder, it's individual ability against individual ability and the demands put on them by the media and the public is disgusting 'imo' - tim henman is a prime example - he was a very good tennis player, top ten in the world for a while, but because he never won wimbledon he's seen as a massive flop, there's more examples out there...

my point is why are there so many people out there that seem to measure these peoples' success as their own and then treat them like dirt for not winning something that those 'followers' couldn't get a sniff of in a millin years of practice?

why do people think these people putting their bodies on the line owe them anything and who are these people to object/criticise when it doesn't happen for them - if somebody else is better then there's nothing that could have been done...

this has been bugging me for a very long time, i find it repulsive some of the things that are said about these sportsmen/women sometimes and just wish that people would remember that their own lives have absolutely nothing to do with a chap they watch on the telly trying to win himself a champinship - support them by all means but who gives them the right to complain if that person isn't the best out there?

people need to take more responsibility for their own happiness once in a while instead of hindering someone elses.

sorry for the rant but i think it's pathetic sometimes


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Monday, July 20, 2009, 06:50:12
you didnt win your darts much in the pub last night did you?


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 20, 2009, 07:00:48
Personally I am sick of not producing winners in major sports. The attention and criticism may be OTT, we all know the tabloid press are scum (no offence Judie :) ), but it really isn't the taking part that counts. Its the winning.


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, July 20, 2009, 18:21:41
Its a bloody rewarding career coming 10th in tennis or golf. The losers get very well compensated for being losing useless scum.


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, July 20, 2009, 19:39:28
Its a bloody rewarding career coming 10th in tennis or golf. The losers get very well compensated for being losing useless scum.
That youngster from Wiltshire got £250,000 for finishing third!!  I wish I could play golf!


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: leefer on Monday, July 20, 2009, 19:54:20
Hi Ronnie...Chris Wood is from Bristol,as you say coming third got him 250,000 grand.
More importantly however..the ranking points he gets enters him into more money spinning tournaments..hes already in next years open as he came third,so its a win win win scenario when you do well in a major.


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, July 20, 2009, 20:44:05
Hi Ronnie...Chris Wood is from Bristol,as you say coming third got him 250,000 grand.
More importantly however..the ranking points he gets enters him into more money spinning tournaments..hes already in next years open as he came third,so its a win win win scenario when you do well in a major.
Yes Leefer, I think I heard him say he is already in next year's Masters!  As he comes on up, do you think the Howeller will ever recapture former glories.  He is not too old surely - if Tom Watson can do what he did at 59!!


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: leefer on Monday, July 20, 2009, 21:01:58
Howell is looking like if he can stay fit he may start to trouble the leaders again....think that he needed abit of a break from golf mentally as he had probs at home(apparently)
His stats were good for The Open and i believe he can win again.


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 20, 2009, 21:37:02
Personally I am sick of not producing winners in major sports. The attention and criticism may be OTT, we all know the tabloid press are scum (no offence Judie :) ),

I'm sure there's more offense in calling him Judie y'know.


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 20, 2009, 21:57:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXcNazpB8Co


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: juddie on Monday, July 20, 2009, 22:01:50
tabloid press?! I hardly work for the Sun!


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, July 20, 2009, 22:07:12
tabloid press?! I hardly work for the Sun!
You can but dream


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: ron dodgers on Monday, July 20, 2009, 22:17:15
topless press?! I hardly work for the Sun!

mmmmmm - nipple index - brown or pink?


Title: Re: vicariousness
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 06:34:19
tabloid press?! I hardly work for the Sun!

:)